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daddysprop247 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/13/2006 9:49:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Driver1961

He enters,dips His lid saddened...

I am trying to have some acceptance of other Dominants actions on this thread rather than judge.

I may be D/s rather than Master/slave orientated and it is because of what is here in some of these posts that I stereotypically considered Master/slave rights as objectionable and something I wish not to be associated with.

Where is consentuality in these repeated actions? Because a nilla rape victim complys for personal survival there is consent? Why is it any different here? Is daddysprop complying simply for the survival of this relationship. 

How many that submit to this mentally destroying treatment are actually being self-empowered, guided in their personal growth?

"but i'm a bit envious of you og...that you're able to enjoy or at least be comfortable with anal. for me the entire experience is always painful...yes, the initial entry and then the withdrawal are the worst parts...but all the stuff in between is pretty hard for me to deal with too. i blame it on Daddy's cock...it's just NOT meant for anal, lol. "
 
I am 'daddy like' and since when is it acceptable for a daddy to punish/subject their girls with frequent violent sexual behaviour for their own personal sexual gratification?   "Daddysprop'- you should not be envious of another achieving satisfaction from something that is done as mutual excitment when yours is domination with mutation or stunting of your personal growth.  I look upon my Precious with equality outside of our BDSM play which means that own D/s roles translate into equality within play- makes sense to us anyways.

I punished my Precious recently with anal sex.  Yes it was punishment and her body behaved as it normally does during Anal (which she loves with me)  I took her silence to be acceptance of her punishment, but unfortunately she had 'shut down' - compliance like a nilla rape victim.  We are still working through the rammifications of this- which is why I am very saddened (if not mortified) by your apparent acceptance of far more brutal behaviour than I would ever undertake for the sake of submissive education.   The mind is a wondrous thing, it is my utmost pleasure to re-open my Precious's mind to the power of herself and what relationships can contain.   Her trust in submitting to me to protect her from 'far past' mental anguish and stimulate her personal growth is a gift that I treasure and yearn to develop appropriately in her growth.

Your more recent post (which I won't quote primarily cos of personal anger) questions where your 'Daddy' is enhancing your psychological wellbeing.

We all can exhibit remorse for our actions- particularly me with my recent well-considered and justified but ultimately negative action- but to apparently continue with further anal domination and blame the other for not enjoying it begs criminality to me.

To daddysprop DADDY I wonder what your expanation of justification  for these actions is?

I have never felt as saddened reading any post on collarme as daddysprop's and suggest that you speak over some of your issues with a professional to obtain some clarification of what is good for your own phsychological wellbeing.

I would be disgusted if any of my nilla friends (in the know of my D/s leanings) was to read this thread and consider it representative of my actions to those that entrust themselves to my care.

Ok dissenters,  go and ahead and educate please on why I am wrong in posting these judgements.I obviously am missing something?

Driver1961, Sir to His loving Wildchild.




Driver, yes i do believe you are missing something. actually you provided a pretty good explanation of your lack of understanding here:

I am 'daddy like' and since when is it acceptable for a daddy to punish/subject their girls with frequent violent sexual behaviour for their own personal sexual gratification?   "Daddysprop'- you should not be envious of another achieving satisfaction from something that is done as mutual excitment when yours is domination with mutation or stunting of your personal growth.  I look upon my Precious with equality outside of our BDSM play which means that own D/s roles translate into equality within play- makes sense to us anyways.

for you, Dominance and submission are "roles" and "play", not nature and lifestyle, as they are for many here. i am never my Master's equal, and while i am his precious little girl, i am also always his slave. yes he is Daddy, but he is far from a "Daddy Dom" as described in the bdsm dictionaries. He is Daddy because he is my Father figure and i am his daughter, and that is a connection separate (yet surprisingly compatible) from our M/s union.

this relationship does not revolve around mutual pleasure or enjoyment, and every activity or action is not intended to result in the enhancement of my "psychological well-being". however, everything IS intended to result in my growth as a slave, something very different.

as for what is "acceptable", it's acceptable for a Master to do whatever he pleases with his property. that is something we as slaves "accept" before coming into this. though it may be incomprehensible to you, i am very much loved and cherished by my Master, he would never intentionally cause me any permanent harm. yes, he may take me anally til i'm torn and bloody. but he also takes me to the doctor for examinations to make sure nothing is torn that he does not wish to be torn, and he always waits til i'm fully healed from the last time before taking me anally again, as that is an activity he'd like to continue for years to come. He is not going to break his little girl, but he is going to hurt her, and take great pleasure in doing so. and well that's his perogative.





Driver1961 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/13/2006 10:02:56 AM)

He enters..

Umm, nice reply,  I'm open for education but admittedly need more convincing.  Yes you explain this as being part of your accepted parameters and your reply may only reinforce my stereo-typical view of what many consider to be Master/slave relationships.   I'm unable to place any more judgement on the approriateness of your Daddy's actions in view of this but welcome any further posts from others to further assist my learning in this regard.

Regards to all, Driver 1961.




darksdesire -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/13/2006 12:41:34 PM)

Daddysprop

I don't believe it's correct to say that Driver views dominance and submission as "roles" and "play" rather than "nature" and "lifestyle" simply because he takes a different view of  D/s than you do.  While he may be a very different sort of Master than yours is,  it sounds like this is very serious business for him that extends way beyond roles.  (excuse me driver if I'm speaking incorrectly). 

It is very much in my Masters character to use a nurturing and protective style of dominance.  By Dominating me in this way, he is not playing a role, he is being utterly true to his character.  He won't make me bleed because he doesn't want to make me bleed.  I could beg him to make me bleed and he'd probably refuse, as it is his prerogative to do as he wishes.  He gives me pleasure when he enjoy giving me pleasure.  He is nurturing of me, his property because this is who he is as a man and a Master. It is most definitely not a "role" that he steps into and out of at will.  One does not have to take a hard, brutal approach.  For some, that may be true to their nature,  but for others, Dominating with a gentler approach is congruent with who they are as a person.   

On the other side, there are times when I desire a harsher approach, particularly when I'm experiencing remorse or self judgement. I can ask for it, but most often, he refuses this because it's not enjoyable to him.  




daddysprop247 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/13/2006 2:38:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: darksdesire

Daddysprop

I don't believe it's correct to say that Driver views dominance and submission as "roles" and "play" rather than "nature" and "lifestyle" simply because he takes a different view of  D/s than you do.  While he may be a very different sort of Master than yours is,  it sounds like this is very serious business for him that extends way beyond roles.  (excuse me driver if I'm speaking incorrectly). 

It is very much in my Masters character to use a nurturing and protective style of dominance.  By Dominating me in this way, he is not playing a role, he is being utterly true to his character.  He won't make me bleed because he doesn't want to make me bleed.  I could beg him to make me bleed and he'd probably refuse, as it is his prerogative to do as he wishes.  He gives me pleasure when he enjoy giving me pleasure.  He is nurturing of me, his property because this is who he is as a man and a Master. It is most definitely not a "role" that he steps into and out of at will.  One does not have to take a hard, brutal approach.  For some, that may be true to their nature,  but for others, Dominating with a gentler approach is congruent with who they are as a person.   

On the other side, there are times when I desire a harsher approach, particularly when I'm experiencing remorse or self judgement. I can ask for it, but most often, he refuses this because it's not enjoyable to him.  



darksdesire, you are correct, being gentle or harsh has nothing to do with whether or not one is truly Dominant..and i'm not sure where you got the impression that i implied such a thing. Dominance can express itself just as easily thru compassion and kindness as it can thru aggression and brutality.

i believe that Driver views Dominance and submission for HIM (and his girl) as roles that are turned on and off, not because he may treat his girl gently, but from his own words, referring to particular activities as "play", particular states of being (namely, dominant or submissive) as "roles", and making it clear that he views his girl as his equal. nothing is wrong with any of those things of course, but that provides for a far different dynamic than will be had between two people in a D/s relationship where the power dynamic is constant.




starshineowned -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/13/2006 2:42:45 PM)

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Where is consentuality in these repeated actions?
Consent came when she agree to being Daddy's slave in accordance to whatever they both agreed on this would mean.

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  How many that submit to this mentally destroying treatment are actually being self-empowered, guided in their personal growth?
What gives you the idea Sir that there is anything about this that is mentally detrimental to a person? Because your own sub had a bad experience does not qualify as sound reasoning.

quote:

  I am 'daddy like' and since when is it acceptable for a daddy to punish/subject their girls with frequent violent sexual behaviour for their own personal sexual gratification? 
It is acceptable because they say it is. Simply because a slave does not enjoy what is being done to them or that they have to do..does not make it detrimental. It often reinforces exactly that which they needed to and wanted to live from the beginning..as a slave. Not really sure what slave does not put their Owners gratifications of any nature above their own. If the slave enjoys the situation at the same time..then it's a bonus. If they don't..then they don't. Would hardly consider not using lube or forceful or some anal bleeding as violent.

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  We are still working through the rammifications of this- which is why I am very saddened (if not mortified) by your apparent acceptance of far more brutal behaviour than I would ever undertake for the sake of submissive education. 
Perhaps that is because the education wasn't for a submissive. Not all slaves are submissive, and some don't even recognize submissive or dominant beyond anything more than a personality trait. Oddly..what would you then say to a pain slut or masochist? The same? Just because one gets off on the pain they are getting doesn't negate that one is qwelled and equally satisfied by knowing they have served as the slave they are, and were pleasing.

quote:

 Your more recent post (which I won't quote primarily cos of personal anger) questions where your 'Daddy' is enhancing your psychological wellbeing. 
This might again come from what one slave needs for their well being in order to deepen their life of slave is not going to be necessarily healthy or perhaps not even far enough for another.

quote:

  We all can exhibit remorse for our actions- particularly me with my recent well-considered and justified but ultimately negative action- but to apparently continue with further anal domination and blame the other for not enjoying it begs criminality to me.
In light of the other things that were said by daddysprop..fails to see Sir where you draw this conclusion? The mere fact that any of us refers to ourselves as slave or slavery and practicing it is criminal according to the 13th admendmant, and putting "consentual" infront of it does not matter if the law so chooses not to take that into consideration.

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  I have never felt as saddened reading any post on collarme as daddysprop's and suggest that you speak over some of your issues with a professional to obtain some clarification of what is good for your own phsychological wellbeing.
Because you and your sub do not have this exchange that you find troubling..it somehow relates to anyone who does as requiring professional help? I would venture to say that anyone going to a nilla counselor and stating they were submissive and or a slave giving over their will to anothers in Any degree would find reasons to say you need help, and summarily setup many appointments for you.

Well Wishes
starshine
Happy slave of Master Delvin




Driver1961 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/13/2006 2:51:29 PM)

He enters , dips His lid,

Well said Dark Desire.   I agree, I live a lifestyle and role in the manner you describe.   Yes at times we may dress and play more with roles , but essentially your explanation is correct.  
I also hear Daddysprop's explanation.  Her view and her Daddy's appear to be of total ownership- 'do it,  put up with it, or fail me and walk/walk if you can.'  Some believe the concept  of 'mind dynamics' is to reach the sinister aspects akin to the 'battered wife syndrome' where they are grateful for the 'negative' attention in order to feel positive.
This concept or variances is difficult for people like myself to understand as the question of care surely involves compassion to where one is not expected to believe that at any moment they can be subjected to extremism/criminality in mental torture.   For example nothing whatsoever would excuse this at law if the slave was not deemed at law to be mentally stable- this would leave the Dominant open to definite criminal investigation and public discredit.

I am known publicly in the Lifestyle and I doubt that any of my L/s acquaintances would be surprised by my views which are quite consistant to theirs.  I tend to 'wide berth' others that example views similar to Daddysprop; however the boards give an avenue to air, discuss and educate others and ourselves in what one would like to think is a more relaxed atmospher that is more judging or confronting than eye to eye.  

I look forward to more views on appropriateness of 'abusing' one's property for what may be disregard to the possible consequences.   I hear it as akin to playing God, a thing that in my half lifetime of policing experiences I have encountered amoung many- who have fallen ultimately to the calls of 'justice'.   Simply none of us are a God, those people are fools and I question to learn more understanding in others behaviour.

warm regards to all.




BDSM05478 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/13/2006 5:00:31 PM)

Kudos to Dadyprop24/7, girl you kept a calm I would never have been able to acheive.
starshine you too put it in very well terms...... Driver in that last post..... that part about "battered-wife syndrom"  imo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off doesn't even begin to apply. every moment of my life is not spend scurring around on eggshells, dodging brutal words and actions cowering in a corner afraid to speak. I admit I skim posts that don't grab me so maybe I missed your point with that.....but I think I can safely say this for "we" slaves. personally I am a bad, willfull destructive girl if left to my own desires,I have NO impulse control and little concern for others outside my pack yet I can cry for strangers a world away (go figure) Some of our Daddys have to be more like a military father lol we are not nor will we ever be equal to our Owners, we do not want equal, we want control! I know the price of not having dinner ready, or work clothes laid out, along time ago this is what he told me he needed and i said I could do....not always well lol but that is what it is. Usually our Daddys know us better than our ACTUAL fathers, they know our needs, our wants, our deepest secrets, the ones we don't ever even tell our priests or therapists. Mine knows I am the hugest dork and will randomly grab me and say, "come to my hearth and share pleasures." it's from a book i loved as a teenager and it makes me giggle and blush every freaking time he does it even years later...... for some of us we are the biggest collection of contradiction with in ourselves....... but that could just be me.




Devilslilsister -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/13/2006 7:07:10 PM)

i'm with the others on here along with Daddysprop and OG and BDSM.  I doubt my Master has ever anally raped me.  Seems abit extreme.  He takes it - uses force at times - but rape?  Even for anal raping "play" doesnt seem to fit.  My Dom says "roll over", i oblige and he starts the painful process.  He doesnt mind me struggling and squealing and i'm sure if he did he'd tell me to quit.  He does mind if i tighten up.  Nor does he use lube.  I think he used lube once when he was working on getting this MASSIVE plug up my rear. i think i squealed alot - )  What does he need lube for?  It goes in anyways.  Bleeding happens and i actually am abit proud of it.  i dont really mind bleeding for him.  He seems to enjoy the fact that i have taken something to that degree.  I think i was most proud when he was using a paddle and my ass as he calls it "exploded".  Blood went everywhere and he was pretty pleased.  So i was pleased. 

luckily with anal - after awhile i am able to get into it and respond back the way he enjoys. 




Driver1961 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 4:03:44 AM)

He enters, dips His lid....

Thankyou to respondents, I am enjoying the further insights.   I well acknowledge that we can accept what we ask or give consent to recieve- this I don't have a problem with.  I fully accept that what is one's bag is not always anothers, and that we all have judgements and personal perceptions.   My posts have been in response to previous posts here. 

I am not in any way suggesting that all subs nor slaves or Dom/mes for that matter need their heads read.  I am past generalizations and stereotypes (at least I like to think I am- laughs)

Responses to my posts have been stacked from the submissive side which does give a one sided view in assisting me to better educate myself.  I realize that respondents (thankyou Girls) may believe they are responding in part on behalf of their Masters; however you are not a Master responding.  Some may judge the lack of Masters responding as justification of their judgements however it seems my own jury will continue to be undecided on many of the concerns I have about some Masters care of their property.

Some posters here have in fact expressed some concern but provided no detail.  BDSM05478; I am not all all suggesting that all slaves are controlled in a 'battered wife syndrome state' and your response clearly indicates that for yourself this is not the case; however your previous post indicated some concern about how Masters may see fit to use their property also.
On a side note I am disheartened by some of the statements made about how others live their lives or how their Owner/Master/Daddy see fit to use Their property. To each their own, we live how we see fit to live and should be accepted not insulted.
 
I understand tops, bottoms, Masos, Sadists and how these categories are part of BDSM but am of the opinion that many (edge play)Sadists are Masters which does not always make them correct in the way they may use their property.   A slave may be property but she still has to be fed and maintained etc.   Daddysprop's posts prior to mine questioned my concepts of what is appropriate 'maintainence'. 

but speaking purely of the physical discomfort factor, which imo lube (which the rare times is used, is only one particular hard to find but high quality kind) does nothing to ease. my own health or safety are not things i take into consideration.

Ganted Daddysprop- your health and safety are the responsibility of your Master, it is your responsibility to do as  He expects.

that's true about the self-lube...that would happen sometimes in the first year or so when i was being anally trained. but these days blood and spit pretty much provide most of the lubrication. kudos on learning to enjoy it...that this was something you had to learn and didn't just happen naturally only impresses me that much more. maybe one day i will get there (hey,
stranger things have happened
 
I well understand the 'self-lubings' and this generally (I believe) occurs from psychological response.   You state this used to occur but doesn't today when you appear to be now fearful of being taken anally. Is it then such a long bow for me to then question how you can ever begin to derive psychological pleasure from anal when the only pleasure you appear to derive is from 'pleasing him?'

Thankyou to all and hopefully I may get a response or five from Masters?


Warm smiles to all.

Driver1961 Sir to His loving Wildchild 





Kalira -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 4:57:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: starshineowned

quote:

Where is consentuality in these repeated actions?
Consent came when she agree to being Daddy's slave in accordance to whatever they both agreed on this would mean.

quote:

  How many that submit to this mentally destroying treatment are actually being self-empowered, guided in their personal growth?
What gives you the idea Sir that there is anything about this that is mentally detrimental to a person? Because your own sub had a bad experience does not qualify as sound reasoning.

quote:

  I am 'daddy like' and since when is it acceptable for a daddy to punish/subject their girls with frequent violent sexual behaviour for their own personal sexual gratification? 
It is acceptable because they say it is. Simply because a slave does not enjoy what is being done to them or that they have to do..does not make it detrimental. It often reinforces exactly that which they needed to and wanted to live from the beginning..as a slave. Not really sure what slave does not put their Owners gratifications of any nature above their own. If the slave enjoys the situation at the same time..then it's a bonus. If they don't..then they don't. Would hardly consider not using lube or forceful or some anal bleeding as violent.

quote:

  We are still working through the rammifications of this- which is why I am very saddened (if not mortified) by your apparent acceptance of far more brutal behaviour than I would ever undertake for the sake of submissive education. 
Perhaps that is because the education wasn't for a submissive. Not all slaves are submissive, and some don't even recognize submissive or dominant beyond anything more than a personality trait. Oddly..what would you then say to a pain slut or masochist? The same? Just because one gets off on the pain they are getting doesn't negate that one is qwelled and equally satisfied by knowing they have served as the slave they are, and were pleasing.

quote:

 Your more recent post (which I won't quote primarily cos of personal anger) questions where your 'Daddy' is enhancing your psychological wellbeing. 
This might again come from what one slave needs for their well being in order to deepen their life of slave is not going to be necessarily healthy or perhaps not even far enough for another.

quote:

  We all can exhibit remorse for our actions- particularly me with my recent well-considered and justified but ultimately negative action- but to apparently continue with further anal domination and blame the other for not enjoying it begs criminality to me.
In light of the other things that were said by daddysprop..fails to see Sir where you draw this conclusion? The mere fact that any of us refers to ourselves as slave or slavery and practicing it is criminal according to the 13th admendmant, and putting "consentual" infront of it does not matter if the law so chooses not to take that into consideration.

quote:

  I have never felt as saddened reading any post on collarme as daddysprop's and suggest that you speak over some of your issues with a professional to obtain some clarification of what is good for your own phsychological wellbeing.
Because you and your sub do not have this exchange that you find troubling..it somehow relates to anyone who does as requiring professional help? I would venture to say that anyone going to a nilla counselor and stating they were submissive and or a slave giving over their will to anothers in Any degree would find reasons to say you need help, and summarily setup many appointments for you.

Well Wishes
starshine
Happy slave of Master Delvin

Beautifully said, once again.





amlonging -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 5:11:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: drawntothedark

Is that safe.........I mean cleaning him off  with your mouth after anal? Can't you get like Hepititis from that? (Maybe I'm thinking of something else)


It's her own ass... !!  If she were cleaning his cock after he penetrated another ass, she SHOULD worry.  At the most she'd probably get a bad case of the runs from her own E. Coli.




BDSM05478 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 5:24:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Driver1961

On a side note I am disheartened by some of the statements made about how others live their lives or how their Owner/Master/Daddy see fit to use Their property. To each their own, we live how we see fit to live and should be accepted not insulted. 
 
occurs from psychological response.   You state this used to occur but doesn't today when you appear to be now fearful of being taken anally. Is it then such a long bow for me to then question how you can ever begin to derive psychological pleasure from anal when the only pleasure you appear to derive is from 'pleasing him?'

Thankyou to all and hopefully I may get a response or five from Masters?


Warm smiles to all.

Driver1961 Sir to His loving Wildchild 


Don't get it twisted, that comment I made was not meant to be read they way you read it. It was directed at all the ones that felt the need to cast their opinions on daddysprop and try to make her situation seem wrong. I feel a kinship with some here even if I nver address it to them specifically and will get a little protective of them and their informed adult choices, it's the switch in me lol.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 8:52:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: amlonging

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ORIGINAL: drawntothedark

Is that safe.........I mean cleaning him off  with your mouth after anal? Can't you get like Hepititis from that? (Maybe I'm thinking of something else)


It's her own ass... !!  If she were cleaning his cock after he penetrated another ass, she SHOULD worry.  At the most she'd probably get a bad case of the runs from her own E. Coli.

Nobody touches either of us, and we touch nobody who has not been thoroughly tested.  I have no worries in the hands of my Master, nor have I ever had a bad case of anything in the 2 1/2 years I have been used by him.  I have, however, had 2 car accidents (one my fault, the other not).  I guess I'd be safer if he banned me from driving, eh? [;)]




Donnalee -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 9:03:35 AM)

Just wondering.....wouldn't it really hurt the top's penis to be rammed into an anus without lube?  I would think the lube thing would go both ways.  Maybe not?  Anyone know that side of it?




ownedgirlie -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 9:12:18 AM)

It's a good question, and I will ask him about it.  Usually he uses my saliva and that is sufficient enough for him.




daddysprop247 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 9:37:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Donnalee

Just wondering.....wouldn't it really hurt the top's penis to be rammed into an anus without lube?  I would think the lube thing would go both ways.  Maybe not?  Anyone know that side of it?


well from what Daddy has told me and from what i've seen, usually he will be sore and red the next day, but he doesn't mind that. the rare times when i haven't bled have actually been the worst for us both, since the passage was just completely dry...he won't come near my asshole for a loooong time after an experience like that.




Donnalee -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 10:05:19 AM)

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well from what Daddy has told me and from what i've seen, usually he will be sore and red the next day, but he doesn't mind that. the rare times when i haven't bled have actually been the worst for us both, since the passage was just completely dry...he won't come near my asshole for a loooong time after an experience like that.


Color me dense, but is the reason he won't come near your asshole after a dry session because it hurt him, or because his slave needed time to heal?  Also, and I'm serious with my curiosity...your play/your choice and all.....But if he can't get you to bleed for lubrication, then this would be seen as not a good thing, and the bleeding would be the good thing?




daddysprop247 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 10:32:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Donnalee


Color me dense, but is the reason he won't come near your asshole after a dry session because it hurt him, or because his slave needed time to heal?  Also, and I'm serious with my curiosity...your play/your choice and all.....But if he can't get you to bleed for lubrication, then this would be seen as not a good thing, and the bleeding would be the good thing?



He always allows for healing time after i'm anally used, bloody or not, because i'm always hurt or torn in some way. when it's been totally dry, he'll avoid me for even longer than usual, for his own sake since is not a masochist. as for bleeding being good or bad, it's actually neither. it's just what is. that it provides lubrication is a nice bonus. but, he doesn't purposely try to make me bleed or wish for me to bleed. if lubrication were that important, he'd just use store-bought lube.




drawntothedark -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 11:37:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: amlonging

quote:

ORIGINAL: drawntothedark

Is that safe.........I mean cleaning him off  with your mouth after anal? Can't you get like Hepititis from that? (Maybe I'm thinking of something else)


It's her own ass... !!  If she were cleaning his cock after he penetrated another ass, she SHOULD worry.  At the most she'd probably get a bad case of the runs from her own E. Coli.


Basically I was just asking a question. I was not judging. Actually if you would take the time to read other posts I have wrote you would see I try very hard NOT TO JUDGE. I was just asking because I simply wanted to know health risks. That's what a person does when they are curious about something. They ask questions. I don't belive daddysprop got offended with me asking?




Driver1961 -> RE: Anal "rape" (12/14/2006 4:00:40 PM)

He enters, dips His lid to all.

Congratulations 'Drawntothedark'! 
It does seem that snarking judgements are not the fault of inquirers but those that say we judge them!  This medium is easily open to misinterpretation if someone does not try to consider it is only their typed WORD that is seen and not the various other forms of communication we use - eg smiles, tone, etc.

Given this, what gives people the right to immediately JUDGE that others should interpret their typed words.  The fact that I may be a Dominant- (and the only male Dom posting on this thread of late) does not mean that I should be given immediate unquestionable rights but neither does it mean that I sould be treated as the 'evil other' because I question what has been typed here.

Some believe the concept  of 'mind dynamics' is to reach the sinister aspects akin to the 'battered wife syndrome' where they are grateful for the 'negative' attention in order to feel positive. My previous quote here is not in any way intended to say that because I don't understand anothers words they are a battered wife type. So  what immediately occurred?
A sisterhood of protection rather than understanding I am simply questioning and utilizing my various learning experiences.  I can point out that this is a symptom of the 'battered wife syndrome'.

I am poly and would take my subs to task for their thoughtless rudeness against another in their inability to reflect and accept responsibility for their  own actions being misinterpreted by others.

I will continue this post when I have attended to other more important 'real life ' around me.  Hopefully upon my return some of my previous concerns may have been answered by those slaves/subs that have shirked to answer and rather been protected by others who have taken exception to my questioning.

Where are these Masters opinions- these slaves can surely ask their Daddies for assistance in answering respectfully what they are unable to? (shakes head at a waste of energy here)

Oh, and anal without proper lube etc?  It depends upon the 'action or roughness' of continued thrusting.  Once the head is in- the shaft generally provides a lubrication type effect with the shaft skin gripping the anal walls and moving against the shaft proper.

Warm regards to all and looking forward to comments after I finish making a full length mirror for a friend's Christmas.

Driver1961 Sir to His loving Wildchild. 






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