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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 4:41:59 PM   
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Congratulations 'Drawntothedark'! 
It does seem that snarking judgements are not the fault of inquirers but those that say we judge them!  This medium is easily open to misinterpretation if someone does not try to consider it is only their typed WORD that is seen and not the various other forms of communication we use - eg smiles, tone, etc.

Given this, what gives people the right to immediately JUDGE that others should interpret their typed words.  The fact that I may be a Dominant- (and the only male Dom posting on this thread of late) does not mean that I should be given immediate unquestionable rights but neither does it mean that I sould be treated as the 'evil other' because I question what has been typed here.

Some believe the concept  of 'mind dynamics' is to reach the sinister aspects akin to the 'battered wife syndrome' where they are grateful for the 'negative' attention in order to feel positive. My previous quote here is not in any way intended to say that because I don't understand anothers words they are a battered wife type. So  what immediately occurred?
A sisterhood of protection rather than understanding I am simply questioning and utilizing my various learning experiences.  I can point out that this is a symptom of the 'battered wife syndrome'.
I can only assume you mean to lump a group of people together by my own statement about sticking up for people.....I defend all peoples rights to do whatever the hell makes them happy so long as everyone is one the same page...... even that guy in germany that had the desire to be eaten finding a guy to eat him hell go for it, do you! and f*ck what anyone thinks or has to say about it. There is indeed a thing as being too openminded and accepting but for us there is no other way.
I am poly and would take my subs to task for their thoughtless rudeness against another in their inability to reflect and accept responsibility for their  own actions being misinterpreted by others.

I will continue this post when I have attended to other more important 'real life ' around me.  Hopefully upon my return some of my previous concerns may have been answered by those slaves/subs that have shirked to answer and rather been protected by others who have taken exception to my questioning. Wasn't aware you were calling certain people out there, maybe if you asked them by name what ever was "concerning" you, you might actually learn something perpetual student you claim to be, taking no exception to any question but I seemed to have missed them......

Where are these Masters opinions- these slaves can surely ask their Daddies for assistance in answering respectfully what they are unable to? (shakes head at a waste of energy here)
I am perplexed as to why you seem to come across so hurt as if somehow you were the one judged against......almost smug and condesending expression or at least in my interpration of your written words....... you seem exasperated with this communication and might as well be hitting your hear against a wall.......by all means let not this ficitional world keep you from anything..... why the interest in hearing from the respective *D*s, to hear from ones partner in most cases is no different than their other half but maybe I am alone in having a partner that is my twin flame......
Oh, and anal without proper lube etc?  It depends upon the 'action or roughness' of continued thrusting.  Once the head is in- the shaft generally provides a lubrication type effect with the shaft skin gripping the anal walls and moving against the shaft proper.

Warm regards to all and looking forward to comments after I finish making a full length mirror for a friend's Christmas.

Driver1961 Sir to His loving Wildchild. 


I cast no judgements on how anyone of us manifest our needs, dreams and desires in WIITWD. I have found myself doing things and loving them when just 10 years or 3 years I never ever ever thought I would want or even think of doing whatever. I admit I am nieve I would like to think that everyday we learn something, every once in a while we have moments of realization and growth and we evolve mentally, emotionally, spiritually grow somehow.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 8:05:10 PM   
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BDSM thankyou for a prompt reply, (on my lunch break now) your I cast no judgements on how anyone of us manifest our needs, dreams and desires in WIITWD. Begs some introspection. I have a dream, desire or need to better understand the complexity of care that is excercised upon Daddysprop by her Master.  Am I not your anyone that you are casting no judgement upon?   This is your response to my I am poly and would take my subs to task for their thoughtless rudeness against another in their inability to reflect and accept responsibility for their  own actions being misinterpreted by others.????? Which was partly motivated by your   “Kudos to Dadyprop24/7, girl you kept a calm I would never have been able to acheive.     (Excuse me BDSM but it’s i before e except after c and yes I am being very smug here!) you then reflected slightly by saying . I admit I skim posts that don't grab me so maybe I missed your point with that.....but and proceeded to speak well allowing an insight into your relationship which is quite common to Daddy/girl, D/s and M/s then you finish with ...... for some of us we are the biggest collection of contradiction with in ourselves.......  Am I led to understand that your rudeness of ‘rallying to the sisterhood’ at your post beginning is justified by your possible reflection at post end of contradiction within ourselves?If this is the case then it is poor flawed introspection and you should have rewritten your post, particularly your beginning.

BDSM you then further comment with Don't get it twisted, that comment I made was not meant to be read they way you read it. It was directed at all the ones that felt the need to cast their opinions on daddysprop and try to make her situation seem wrong. I feel a kinship with some here even if I nver address it to them specifically and will get a little protective of them and their informed adult choices, it's the switch in me lol.
 
Which led me to post,  A sisterhood of protection rather than understanding I am simply questioning and utilizing my various learning experiences.  I can point out that this is a symptom of the 'battered wife syndrome'. You state that I should direct my questions but I have! Your It was directed at all the ones that felt the need to cast their opinions on daddysprop demonstrates that I was asking questions and you have interrupted answering for another and you blame your rudeness on being a switch!   It shows no Dominance to me but weakness that I would not tolerate when lending my girl/s to a switch.  

Nothing excuses unjustified rudeness and perhaps this is why I have  stated Where are these Masters opinions- these slaves can surely ask their Daddies for assistance in answering respectfully what they are unable to? (shakes head at a waste of energy here)
I am perplexed as to why you seem to come across so hurt as if somehow you were the one judged against......almost smug and condesending expression or at least in my interpration of your written words....... you seem exasperated with this communication and might as well be hitting your hear against a wall.......by all means let not this ficitional world keep you from anything..... why the interest in hearing from the respective *D*s, to hear from ones partner in most cases is no different than their other half but maybe I am alone in having a partner that is my twin flame......
 
Well BDSM, get a cuppah, relax and reflect a bit here.   What do you mean by ‘Fictional world’?   and my reasoning for thinking that Daddysprop’s Master’s and others Masters’ opinions are valid for the same reasoning you use in your last line-
why the interest in hearing from the respective *D*s, to hear from ones partner in most cases is no different than their other half but maybe I am alone in having a partner that is my twin flame....
 
MOST CASES??  My Wildchild has posted here numerous times saying I know her so well etc but even I would never believe that I am privy to ALL her thoughts!  I’m no God, I’m a human being.

People in this thread have expressed concern and wish to better understand the nature of Daddysprop relationship- I am the only ‘TERRIER’ here listening to others that speak for her when she can speak for herself or have her Master speak for himself.   I have frequently been approached by my girl/s for guidance in a post reply when the post has directly concerned me- otherwise the validity of their posts would border on the ‘fictional world’ that you appear to infer.

So I state again,  Where are the Masters or Daddysprop Master speaking in support?   I well understand that another Dominant clearly understands that it is foolish and exhibits weakness if they speak on matters that they do not contain the facts to. A slave/sub speaks from a different perspective and that is why I attempted to provide some clarity over the forced anal insertion effects upon one’s penis.   My girl/s can’t speak on a matter like that unless they specifically ask me and I would then communicate it directly or ensure they communicated directly so I may not be discredited later for badly relayed information.

It is for this reason that I question if some Masters would be happy with some of the statementsand/or actions on this thread that are attributed to them.

Warm regards to all- (My old fashioned manners that I cling to in this ill mannered anonymous world we now live in) or should I use the legal term of 'Without Prejudice?'

Laughs to the many that are entertained by all this!

Driver 1961, Sir to His loving Wildchild.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 8:09:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Driver1961

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Congratulations 'Drawntothedark'! 
It does seem that snarking judgements are not the fault of inquirers but those that say we judge them!  This medium is easily open to misinterpretation if someone does not try to consider it is only their typed WORD that is seen and not the various other forms of communication we use - eg smiles, tone, etc.

Given this, what gives people the right to immediately JUDGE that others should interpret their typed words.  The fact that I may be a Dominant- (and the only male Dom posting on this thread of late) does not mean that I should be given immediate unquestionable rights but neither does it mean that I sould be treated as the 'evil other' because I question what has been typed here.


You make good points, but I think the response to you comes not from your questions but from your judgments prior to your questions being answered.  You state "anger" and "sadness" and "disgust" and "a waste of energy" and let us not forget:  "Ok dissenters,  go and ahead and educate please on why I am wrong in posting these judgements.I obviously am missing something?" as though it were a challenge, unless I am misinterpreting. When someone asks me a question but has already judged me, I am not prone to putting forth a lot of energy in my reply, as it seems futile.

This is not me being snarky either; it is an attempt to explain why you may have received the responses you did.  Kindness begets kindness.  Judgment and criticizm begets the same, or perhaps defensiveness and irritability. 


Edited for spelling

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 8:18:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have played out this scenario a few times .... tips for your Master . make sure you don't know its gonna happen . after all most "rapes" are a surprise violation ...
 
rough and dry is definetly gonna give you the impression or rape . no doubt about it . so will his rough voice in your ear while your being forced face down and taken will give you the impression also .... wether you use some lube or not is up to you and your Masters desires ... and your pain threshold .... cause its gonna hurt if this is the first time.but definetly have it be a surprise . if you practice or loosen it up ahead of time means you know its gonna happen and if you do it still . well its not rape if your willing IMHO ...the element of surprise has to be there to do a ass rape scene other wise its just ass play
 
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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 8:30:20 PM   
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I never was rude nor did I ever try to claim rudeness for a switches sake <shrugs> Once again I am proven that a big vocabulary does not equal someone with common sense. it is hard to claim to be interested in "learning" something when you seem to know everything and everyone already. pointing out my spelling and grammer simplely makes you look like an even bigger ass to me but thanks for the chuckle, one can only wonder if you talk to your girls in such a manner, verbal abuse can come in oh so many forms......... oh and when it comes to reading my posts here is one word you would do well to remember S-A-R-C-A-S-T-I-C...........did ya catch that sweet cheeks?

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 8:49:40 PM   
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Well said Owned girlie.  You are quite right.

I read the thread, the questions, statments of others and yes I naturally made judgements (smiles cos he likes your judging upon himself, do it again and I may put you on my favourites list!) regarding the flow of the thread.  

I expressed how I felt particularly in my first post, on my judgement that others were expressing concern but receiving little or no reply and of course based upon my own life knowledge. 

I realize that some were not going to agree with me and I wanted to better understand- so yes I considered it 'best practice' to issue a challenge cos gentle questioning/concern by others wasn't seen or ignored. 

Your  When someone asks me a question but has already judged me, I am not prone to putting forth a lot of energy in my reply, as it seems futile is extremely true and something I too practice however; I'm still of the opinion that questions had been asked prior and were unseen or ignored- so rather than ignore this myself - I wanted to better understand Daddysprop so took the 'look at me' stance.

I trust this acknowledges your insightful judgement - He dips His lid admiringly.

Driver1961.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 9:05:48 PM   
Driver1961


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Yes BDSM I do speak and correct my girl/s similarly- I am the Sir and their actions represent me. 

Sarcasm- yes often  a way of running away with superfluous woffle (crap) to ignore reflecting upon the situation. A form of humour generally used to hide lack of understanding.
or from Encarta Dict
remarks that mean the opposite of what they seem to say and are intended to mock or deride
 
Yes this 'sweet cheeks' is laughing, actually nearly choked on His coffee.   Thankyou for such a prompt reply BDSM.

Driver1961.   (still laughing, I love my day today- beautiful sunshine, birds tweeting and now having 'sweet cheeks'!)

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 9:12:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		dammmmm and here I thought this was a thread on the ideas of anal rape scenes .....

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 9:18:51 PM   
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Well said Owned girlie.  You are quite right.

I read the thread, the questions, statments of others and yes I naturally made judgements (smiles cos he likes your judging upon himself, do it again and I may put you on my favourites list!) regarding the flow of the thread.  

I expressed how I felt particularly in my first post, on my judgement that others were expressing concern but receiving little or no reply and of course based upon my own life knowledge. 

I realize that some were not going to agree with me and I wanted to better understand- so yes I considered it 'best practice' to issue a challenge cos gentle questioning/concern by others wasn't seen or ignored. 

Your  When someone asks me a question but has already judged me, I am not prone to putting forth a lot of energy in my reply, as it seems futile is extremely true and something I too practice however; I'm still of the opinion that questions had been asked prior and were unseen or ignored- so rather than ignore this myself - I wanted to better understand Daddysprop so took the 'look at me' stance.

I trust this acknowledges your insightful judgement - He dips His lid admiringly.

Driver1961.

Thank you for acknowledging my post with the spirit in which it was intended.  Since you invited further comment (heh), I will be honest and say that when I initially read the first sentence of your first post on this subject (you were already stating you were saddened), I felt judged and was already shifting toward the "This guy has already made up his mind and just wants to insult us" camp.  So I had little interest in reading or responding further.  Perhaps that was judgmental and wrong on my own part, but it is part of my conversational dynamic (I'm working on that).  Typically, if someone comes to me and starts a conversation with, "I'm really sad that you do such n such..." my likely response would be, "Okay." and not much else.  If they were to say "Something you said concerned me...would you mind clarifying?" I would have a seat, lean forward, and say "Sure, let me tell you all about it."

In rereading your first post, I can see you did have actual concern and interest.  But the first time I read it, I never got that far, because I was put off by my perceived judgment coming from you.  It didn't help that two posts before yours were highly judgmental and assuming, which already left me with a particular mood by the time I read your post. 

Hopefully that explains where I'm coming from, anyway.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/14/2006 9:42:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Driver1961
He enters, dipping again.. ha ha.
Yes BDSM I do speak and correct my girl/s similarly- I am the Sir and their actions represent me. 
-See my point exactly, I am not one of your girls, it is not your place to correct me, I am no submissive and most def not your submissive.

Sarcasm- yes often  a way of running away with superfluous woffle (crap) to ignore reflecting upon the situation. A form of humour generally used to hide lack of understanding.
or from Encarta Dict
remarks that mean the opposite of what they seem to say and are intended to mock or deride
- Dude I don't think that would be an accurate defination for my culture. I think the reason we can not understand each other is because our toliet water spin in different directions.
 
Yes this 'sweet cheeks' is laughing, actually nearly choked on His coffee.   Thankyou for such a prompt reply BDSM.

Driver1961.   (still laughing, I love my day today- beautiful sunshine, birds tweeting and now having 'sweet cheeks'!)


oh and that how internal contradiction thing I said way back when.... I was talking about the balance with in each of us, the balance of extremes in myself pacifically.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/15/2006 2:12:15 AM   
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dammmmm and here I thought this was a thread on the ideas of anal rape scenes .....


Are you really asking?   mmmmm?  I used to live by this huge city park.  Think big like central park in NewYork but bigger.  There were these hiking trails at one end in this thick forest of trees.  In the middle where these tennis courts.  So lot of women, including myself would walk alone through this forest of trees for at least 10 min from the parking lot to get to these tennis courts.   The forest on either side of these trails was immense and easy to get lost in.  Lots of old growth, and moss, and litchens.  Even sound was dampened by the thickeness of the trees.  Not once did I walk those trails and not think how easy it would be for a Master to just jump out and capture his prey.  I never did work up the nerve to ask a Man I was seeing to fullfill this little fantasy.   .......   but ...I always did wonder.


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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/15/2006 8:12:13 AM   
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dammmmm and here I thought this was a thread on the ideas of anal rape scenes .....



Yeah, and I'm still wondering if the dry rape scene hurts the penetrator's tool and how.  But that's just me.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/15/2006 8:39:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, we did this last night.  It wasn't anything major and Master took his time since there was no lube, but it went pretty well.  I wasn't expecting it at all, because I had told him that I would prepare myself on Sat. for our play that night, so if he wanted to do anything he could feel comfortable in doing so.  It was after agreeing to this and saying we would, that he proceeded to take me that way.
 
I have to admit it was very hot and I enjoyed it.  I am actually wondering if it hurt me less without lube, not sure if that is possible or not. 
 
Has anyone else ever had that, where it hurts more with the lube, than without?
 
Kasha

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/15/2006 8:49:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I get lube so infrequently I really couldn't tell ya lol.  But I have found this - frame of mind is everything.  No matter what is or is not physically prepared for, your mindset will ultimately determine what the outcome is.  I am a firm believer of that.


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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/15/2006 10:22:05 AM   
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I get lube so infrequently I really couldn't tell ya lol.  But I have found this - frame of mind is everything.  No matter what is or is not physically prepared for, your mindset will ultimately determine what the outcome is.  I am a firm believer of that.



i would agree with this.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/15/2006 11:07:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I get lube so infrequently I really couldn't tell ya lol.  But I have found this - frame of mind is everything.  No matter what is or is not physically prepared for, your mindset will ultimately determine what the outcome is.  I am a firm believer of that.



i would agree with this.


I have had bad experiences with it, and I wonder if being prepared actually made it worse for me.  It might have given those protective muscles a chance to react and that made it more painful, I don't know.
 
I am thinking maybe the lube allows a lot more free movement in and out also, and without it Master had to work a bit harder so it didn't just slam back and forth before my anal area was ready for it.
 
Kasha

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/15/2006 5:19:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		actually in some cases yes it can hurt the penetrator as well .... try squeezing an organ in something that don't want to be squeezed into . lol

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/16/2006 11:00:38 AM   
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Yeah, and I'm still wondering if the dry rape scene hurts the penetrator's tool and how.  But that's just me.


The answer I got from above is that sometimes it is tough to push in at first but after I relax and self lube it's all good.  But no, it doesn't hurt him.

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RE: Anal "rape" - 12/16/2006 1:53:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Im getting shivers cause i know that this is something Master has been thinking about.

Thank you for some of the advice on here.

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