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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 7:42:24 AM   
drawntothedark


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Status: offline 		In another thread, someone said something to the fact that if it was something illegal or was something she could not live with, she would not do it. She said at that point her Master would just own a disobeident slave. That's kind of how I see it.

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 7:43:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some slaves enjoy just being property and that works for them. That doesn't make it wrong. I believe a Master should take care of their property . That doesn't mean if he/she only sees him/her as property he doesn't.  A slave or sub should choose their Master wisely.  They should know what they are getting into.  Just because one calls themself a Master doesn't mean they aren't a complete ass , just as in vanilla life. Have to choose your partners carefully.

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 7:56:21 AM   
BDSM05478


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Status: offline 		Even the idea of abuse is subjective to the people particapating in the activity. Take face slapping, if  I ever have the lapse of mind to use a tone that is unacceptable to Daddy, no matter where I am, I'm getting the back of the hand. I accept and actually love it for the mental/sexual effect. Yet to anyone in the outside world this act is abusive I have noticed alot of sub profiles where this is a Hard limit even. For someone who is not into this act then yes it would be abusive but for us others it's barely different than a caress. off topic I see no harm in each breed being true to the traits and dispasitions that are theirs. A game dog fights, a guard dog guards and tea cup terriers get carried around in prada purses.......anyone of these can be classed abuse by the ones in the other catagory.

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 8:00:00 AM   
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the property just shrugs off any and all activities as "Master can do whatever He wants with His property" even when such activities are harmful or damaging. 

It's not clear to me if these activities are really "harmful or damaging" or if this is merely your perception of them. Obviously the property doesn't have a problem with it or it wouldn't be shrugging it off . . . for all we know the property gets off on that treatment and gets wet just thinking about it.

Some property doesn't want to be treated like a teak sailboat -- as a matter of fact, if they get pampered as you seem to imply they should, they'll walk right out the door.So the phrase "taking care of the property" has a broad range of meanings, and though it could mean pampering it could also mean the polar opposite of that.


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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 8:01:53 AM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		I think we all have an idea of what is healthy or unhealthy for another based on what we feel is healthy or unhealthy for us, personally.  So we make decisions on a few lines that someone wrote, without knowing the big picture behind it.  Easy to do; I do it myself.  Some can argue these are common sense opinions.  Maybe they are, maybe they're not.  Maybe just maybe the slave posting these outrageous, outlandish, appalling remarks is in a really good place that no one else can see, because no one else but her Master traveled the distance with her and knows exactly how she needs to be treated. Maybe the way he treats her - which may appear as uncaring or even abusive to others - is exactly what she needs to feel safe. But we don't think of that, we think of how we would feel, and we project those sad, angry, frightened feelings onto someone we really know very little about.

Those of us who say we are property for our Masters to do anything to....are not stupid.  We did not just run out into traffic and throw ourselves at some random stranger and beg him to own us.  Speaking for myself only, my owner spent a great deal of time, effort and energy getting to know the very corners of my mind and the hidden parts of my very essence.  He did this so that he knows precisely how I will respond to various things he puts on me.  He did this because he values what belongs to him and finds me special enough to care for me exactly the way I need caring for.  Having brought me from the pits of hell to a land of sheer bliss, I can personally attest to the fact that just because a slave might do things for her Master that cause everyone to turn into chicken little, does not mean she is not cared about.

Sometimes it just feels good to say "He can do with me what he wants" because it helps us feel secure in that knowledge that he can...while knowing what good hands we are in.

Just a thought.

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 8:03:05 AM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear eyesopened, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eyes I see, that Ownership of property can come to different levels and how the slave sees in their mind's eyes what it means to be Property and what is ideal care.
 
My personal experiences and observations, that slaves enter the idealistic view of property, to which can be driven by fantasy, romance, making excuses for behavior by the Owner as to remove them slightly away from a deep relationship to that of a more distant (at the end of the arm and fingers distant) designation of Property.
In relationships entering into Property mindset, this at times changes as they need the closer and more 'touching/feeling/holding' type 'care.' 
 
In my mind's eyes I see; Care means different things to different people.  Some slaves are not the touchy feel up sorts and want that more business or less personalized 'care.'  Some think they don't need certain care but, as time marches forwards, they see the need and or the change.  Ownership of a living being, be it human, horse or creature, needs the fluid boundaries of what care might require and what would be considered maintainence to keep both happy.
 
Indeed, I see in my mind's eyes a slave is my property and have authority/license to dictate the care, maintainence and the treatment of said property.  However, knowing how rare slaves are...especially that would suit me; it would be easier to replace a castle then a slave of mine.  Of course, I am not from a generation of disposal income, food and clothing.  So, I maintain things as to last, as well as coming up with parents that were from the Depression.  Perhaps this is why I have a lot of antiques!  (Plus being one myself (winks))
 
Perhaps, as I write my wondering/pondering out loud (in text form); the individuals involved may have never had to work hard at acquiring and or keeping things throughout their lives.  I find spoiled ones have no regrets in disgarding and disposing of things, as Mummy and Daddy replaced it, the first whine and temper tirade.  Perhaps, perfection is what people seek and think that there will be perfection out there.  Well, every cherished antique has some flaw, as it was created by the artist's hands--not from a mold that stamps out in mass production.
 
In summary, each adult entering a relationship is duty bound to themselves be it Master or slave; to choose the best that they can.
Although many relationships have a beginning, as to be forever; often it is not.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 8:35:59 AM   
SlaveAkasha


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Status: offline 		I will make that statement myself, "My Master is free to do with me what he wants.".
 
The thing is, I know he won't do anything to cause actual  harm to me at all.  He does not, nor will he ever risk my health or my mental well-being in any way.
 
Before I accepted his collar and gave myself over to him, we talked about everything.  I know that he will take care of me, protect me, and cherish me. 
 
Could he change his mind tomorrow and decide to risk my life?  Yes, he very well could.  I know that would break our contract though, and give me free rights to leave.
 
Kasha

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 8:43:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SlaveAkasha

The thing is, I know he won't do anything to cause actual  harm to me at all.  He does not, nor will he ever risk my health or my mental well-being in any way.
 


Until of course what constitutes "harmful" becomes subjective, and what is perfectly fine with you is the end-all of others you mention it to.


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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 8:51:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Let's also put this into perspective- a large majority of the profiles that say things like that really have no clue what it really could entail and are just trying to sound all nifty cool domly hotlike- you know "deeply submissive" and all.  Truly harmless overall.

The OTHER ones- a fair amount of them mean EXACTLY what it says and have seriously thought it through.  As Owned said, what's harmful or wrong is a fairly gray and subjective matter. 

A small percentage of those are actually stupidly dangerous and truly not good people to be around (just as vanillas can be)- and the abused little chickies will flock to them like moths to a flame. 

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 9:16:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		another one here in the "Master can do what he wills with what is his" camp. that is why the decision to become a slave should be made with the utmost common sense, forethought and care. but as CreativeDominant pointed out...sometimes people can be unpredictable. and as a slave or as one considering becoming a slave, you must ask yourself...if the worst case scenario occurs, and your Master ceases to be the kind, gentle, wonderful, caring soul he is today, could you accept that?? of course, to those who believe that a slave has the right to leave her Master, this belief wouldn't apply, but for those like myself, the decision to become slave is the last free choice we make. so i asked myself those hard questions, and knew that still my answer as yes...i will be a slave, and i will be HIS slave, for as long as he will have it so.

while i don't believe in being treated like a fine piece of porcelain, handled with antibacterial gloves, i do think that a Master who values his property and wants to maintain his property will take adequate care of his slave. that does not equate to taking all the time and care that would one use keeping a boat in shipshape..after all, it is our Master's perogative and for many of them, a need, to sometimes hurt us, damage us, abuse us. this can be fulfilled without utter destruction of the slave.

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 9:37:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Focus50

I would assume the one any sub/slave would call their Master is one they've taken the necessary time to get to know and trust him to an acceptable and compatible degree....  A slave is property and it isn't rocket science to observe that if some potential Master doesn't look after his material possessions in general, it's reasonable to assume the slave can expect similar mistreatment....
 
Personally, I own my slave but her material possessions, particularly any she had before we met, are not something I'd lay claim to.  But that's me....  I'd certainly frown upon her mistreating those possessions anyway, because that's not the standard of behaviour I set with mine!
 
Master certainly can do whatever he wants....  The onus is on said slave to choose the right Master for her.  If she chooses poorly, she can always leave, no?
 
Focus.



I agree with this statement very much. I enjoy a very strong power exchange relationship and while I would probably step a little short of “my Master could do anything he wants with me” it would be only just short. To me those in a healthy relationship, who state something like this have taking the time to get to know each other, agree on boundaries and limits so something like this can be said by a mentally healthy slave because they know their owner well enough to know they will be safe and protected.

Are there people who do not do the above and cyber dream or look before they leap and get burned by this type of thinking, sure. Are there some people who state that but do not really live it in their relationship sure, but that does not mean that many great relationships also live this philosophy. I think sometimes we focus too often on worst case scenarios or put our values on other people and rarely give the benefit of the doubt.

I am property and am OK with being treated like property. I just happen to be property that has the ability to recognize when I am in an unhealthy relationship and leave.


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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 9:50:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's not just about possession of property.  When I accept a slave, I don't just take over possession of his (or her) body, but I also take on the responsibilities involved.  These can be far reaching.  I'm not only responsible for his physical, mental and emotional health, but his career, his friends and family relationships, his education, his spirituality.  I'm responsible to see that he is fit and able to carry out his job, or to continue his studies, or whatever is the case.   I have to make sure he has (through his employer or purchased) medical insurance.  I am responsible for making arrangements for someone to care for my slave should anything happen to me. If he has friends and family, I am responsible for making sure that our lifestyle does not affect these relationships.  If he has children, I am responsible for making sure that he lives up to his responsibility to them: child support, visitation, clothing, gifts, communication, etc.

Yes, it's a heavy responsibility.  Which is one of the reasons, probably, why the slave wants to give it up to someone else :)  The "I can do anything I want to my slave" dominants, are probably the wanker equivalent of the "It'd be so hot to serve you 24/7" subbies.  It's what you do FOR your slave that makes you a Master or Mistress; not what you do TO her. 

IMNSHO.

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 9:56:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		 I couldn't, with any honesty, say what I would do if my Master ceased to *be* the man that I became enslaved to. What would HE do, if *I* ceased to be the person he took ownership of?

What WOULD you do if your master simple stopped being that?  If he stopped actually *mastering*....demanded nothing, controlled nothing, directed nothing, was disinterested altogether?

Why would either of us continue in a union that no longer held the components that created it?..and HOW would we?...I don't know.

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 10:35:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		i've enjoyed the comments and opinions very much!  my post was not to pass judgement or even ask a question but to stir thoughts about ourselves (myself).  my friend chose a teak sailboat.  Knowing the man, i know he probably chose it because of it's unique beauty and perhaps even to prove he was capable of caring for such a high-maintenance vessel.  There's as much arguement between wooden boat v fiberglass boats as there is Mac v PC!  Some would choose a fiberglass hull because it doesn't require the amount of maintenance and sails just as well.  It all boils down to personal preference. i just found it interesting that a person could choose a high-maintenance thing but require a low or no maintenance human.  Certainly there are slaves who see "damage" differently than others.  There are still wives in India who gladly go to the funeral pyre for their deceased husbands although the practice is against the law, but then too, those wives were fully aware of what was expected of them up front.  But neither is it right to criticize those Masters who take extra care and maintenance of their slaves.  If they choose a china doll that may be a source of pride not unlike a teak boat.  But if they choose a china doll and throw it around like rubber...well it's going to get broken and i can't imagine it being fun to play with broken toys.

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 10:47:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: SlaveAkasha

The thing is, I know he won't do anything to cause actual  harm to me at all.  He does not, nor will he ever risk my health or my mental well-being in any way.
 


Until of course what constitutes "harmful" becomes subjective, and what is perfectly fine with you is the end-all of others you mention it to.




Totally agreed.  Like mentioned above, some think face slapping is wrong, I happen to love it.  Some probably think the beginnings of bruises I have on my breasts is wrong, to me it's a huge turn on.  It's all in the eyes and the agreement of the two involved.  What's good and dandy for me, might be horrid for you.  That's why it's good we talk about these things with the Masters upfront, to make sure we are on the same page in all areas.
 
Kasha

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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 11:00:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can do as I please with Angel.  He is my complete property and has the confidence to do so knowing that I will take care of him.  There are those out there that are like children, they enjoy breaking their toys. When a slave decides to be a slave, they do so with good faith that the person taking responsability for them will keep their health and well being in mind.  As is the nature of many BDSM activities, many times slaves understand they will be injured by their owners at some point.  If those injuries are then propery cared for, the salves health and well being is stil being taken care of.
In my personal relationship, it was agreed upon before his collar was given to him that at any point in our relationship when it becomes damaging, he is expected to be released. If I were to become neglectful of his health or unable to properly own him for some reason that changes our relationship and therefore changes our status.  He is, however, far more high maintenence than the average person, since he has several health related issues we haveto work around. Those reasons are why I gave him his out, should they become a cause for concern, he is free to take himself out of the situation.
As my prized possession, though, I love him and care for him as such.  I do handle him with kid gloves for now, and as I learn what he can take that will change.  Our pets are our responsabilities and as much as it is their place to serve it is ours to protect. Without the security we provide, they have no reason to be ours, after all.

My 2 cents
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RE: Care of Property - 12/13/2006 11:17:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		On this matter... like pretty much every discussion on here that tries to establish the 'right' way to do BDSM, opinions will vary to an irreconciliable extent.  A sub might expect to be cherished and treasured, where a self-defined slave might be turned on by the idea of being disregarded and treated as unimportant and worthless.  We'll never establish a single position statement, even if we all type 'til our fingers fall off.

For myself, though, I fall strongly into the 'care-for' group.  I like to have nice things, and I like to keep them.  My car, for instance, is 10 years old and still in excellent condition.  What maintenance I don't have the skill/tools to do myself, I gladly pay for, because I'd rather my existing car still be in good condition in 2016, than that I be driving a new car at that time.  I don't like to think of anything as disposable -- so how could I take that attitude towards a person.

Even a Dom who's conscientious about the care of his sub, though, doesn't have to do all the work.  After all, I might care for my boots by ordering my sub to clean and polish them, so it's equally reasonable to delegate much of the sub's care to her.  The untransferrable responsibility of the Dom, in my way of thinking, is to monitor the sub and ensure that she is well cared for -- where she falls short, then the Dom intercedes.  A Dom might intercede directly by, for instance, offering reassurance to a sub with low confidence, or simply by command, such as ordering a sub with health problems to quit smoking, or to follow an exercise regime.  (Dance lessons as exercise regime spring quickly to mind. Graceful, limber subs are a very good thing!)

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RE: Care of Property - 12/14/2006 3:39:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ladyhawk40
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ORIGINAL: Kalira

I do fall into the category that Master, literally, can do anything with his property that he sees fit. And yes, if he feels like ignoring me, than that is his prerogative also. However, before I became his property, Master made me a promise; and that was to never mistreat, or damage his property. I have faith in his word.

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  Master certainly can do whatever he wants....  The onus is on said slave to choose the right Master for her.  If she chooses poorly, she can always leave, no?

Some do retain that right within their relationship; however, when I became property, I took it very seriously. I gave up all rights, including the right to leave if I so choose.

I fall into this category , too. I met my Master almost 3 years ago , he promised to take care of me and has done a very good job at it even when it seems I do not want it sometimes. He makes sure every need is met not only for me but sometimes even my grown children. I was used to when the going got rough my ex-husband of 11 years would leave me. My Master has does not do that.

The only exception we have in this category is that I can leave if I want but that would sever the relationship and I couldn't come back. I don't have any intentions of leaving him because I am totally commited to him.

This is a very interesting thread , Thanks for posting it!

Lol, interesting that you've quoted me to disagree then virtually validated what I said....
 
Yes, my slave can choose to leave (as can you, apparently) but though I didn't actually state it I feel I now need to add for the (rather obvious) record that she only gets to leave me *once*!  And it's worth noting that little detail for those who actually (and foolishly) believe the sub is the one who controls a D/s or M/s relationship.
 
But I digress....  really ladyhawk, given the details of your own relationship here, it seems pointless to me stating that you can't leave when, frankly, the truth seems that you have no reason to leave.... 
 
Not looking for an argument but I simply fail to see how you "fall into this category" Kalira has described.
 
Focus.
 


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RE: Care of Property - 12/14/2006 4:54:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		A couple of points -
 
We (the readers) cannot deterine whether their relationship was viable - and/or what the rationale was for leaving her behind.
 
The (mis?)impression I get from your postings was that he did not take as "good care of her" as he did that sail boat.
 
Without more info, we cannot guage it - and, even with the information, we would only have one side.
 
The other thing is the analogy... I have seen it used (and, used it myself) - and, yet as people are sentient beings and have 'free will', we can only take that so far.
 
I would not want to wash my submissive after every usage - I would not want to take hours to ensure that she is in pristine condition before I walk out the door in the morning...
 
I would expect her to take care of herself to that standard of excellence which the sailboat is maintained....
 
If I have to monitor her in the way inferred I "should", she is a burden and cannot serve me in the way I require.... And, that is not why I want a submissive about.
 
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

No question here just perpelexed.  i have read several posts here and on some yahoo groups where the property just shrugs off any and all activities as "Master can do whatever He wants with His property" even when such activities are harmful or damaging. 

Years ago a good friend of mine bought a teak sailboat.  After a day of sailing we spent a huge amount of time brushing down the deck with fresh water, making sure the boat was not docked without bumpers, folding each sail with care, coiling all ropes and lines,  covering the sails, stowing the seat cushions etc.  A lot of work.  But my friend loved that boat and wanted it to be in perfect condition completely ready to sail.  Of course it was his boat.  He could have docked, shrugged and gone home and eventually the teak would have rotted, pitted from the saltwater, sails damaged, lines tangled and basically turn into a worthless vessel that would be unseaworthy.  Yep, it was his property to do with as he wanted.  It was obvious how much pride he took in that boat.  When he eventually relocated from San Diego to Hawaii for his job he moved there by sailing all the way.  The boat was ready and fit for a sea voyage.  His slave, however, was not and he left her behind.



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RE: Care of Property - 12/14/2006 8:49:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LordODiscipline

Without more info, we cannot guage it - and, even with the information, we would only have one side.

 In complete agreement here.  This is why I frown upon the chicken little fans who read a few lines and think the sky is falling.  I tend to find it rather insulting when it is cried in my direction.  The reason why is, if these people were truly genuinely concerned, my email would fill up with the goodness of others, with messages like, "Hey I saw your post out there and it concerned me....can we talk about it?" rather than making public declarations of "Your Master is an asshole and doesn't take care of you and oh how sad I am about it..."  Makes me wonder their real reason for posting - self grandure or actual concern?

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I would not want to wash my submissive after every usage - I would not want to take hours to ensure that she is in pristine condition before I walk out the door in the morning...

Absolutely.  Actually sometimes my Master wants me hanging out in my mess for awhile, so I can feel and smell and sense what he has done with me as it lingers on me throughout my day or my sleep.  "Golden showers" is  just one example; If he leaves me with such a parting gift, I am usually not allowed to bathe until the next day - even if I have to be somewhere - work, with family, etc.  I have come to find such a gift quite comforting, whereas others will say that is just horrible. 

However, if I am not in a situation like the above and he wants me clean, I am expected to clean myself thoroughly and be prepared for him once again.  Any mess that is made is up to me to clean, whether it is on him, on me, on the bed, on the floor, wherever.  I'm the servant/cleaner.

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I would expect her to take care of herself to that standard of excellence which the sailboat is maintained....


I  agree here as well.  I've mentioned in another thread, my Master likes to say I have "a fiduciary responsibility to maintain his property" in just the way he wants it, and I do.

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If I have to monitor her in the way inferred I "should", she is a burden and cannot serve me in the way I require.... And, that is not why I want a submissive about.
 


This is the same philosophy I was taught by my Master, and what I adhere to.  It is my job to please him in whatever way I can, and to to ensure I am always in the best shape to do so. 

I would also like to state that I find it quite interesting how a particular thread can zoom up to 5 pages in 5 minutes by all those who are worried and sad about a particular activity, yet this thread - a great opportunity to really state their mind - is limping along (sorry, my rant continues).

I would also like to state that it seems only certain "tabboo" activities get such attention.  Kyra freaks me out by talking about BBQ brushes, but where is everyone screaming at her & KoM to make sure she has her tetnus shots?  There is an "anal" thread on this forum where several girls talked about their enjoyment of probing their tongues into their Master's asses - no drama there, either.  For those who live in fear, I wonder with the odds so high of their slaves getting into car accidents, do they forbid them from driving? (yes I am being sarcastic)

Caution is a great thing; carrying it too far is troublesome.

End of rant (for now). 

(in reply to LordODiscipline)
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