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PONYSEEKER -> Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 11:20:15 AM)
I didnt want to steal a thread. I dont know that much about objectification and I was wondering what other forms of objectification (other than ashtray) have people tried and what do they get out of it? Its something that I have been curiouse about and I can see in a way how it does creep somewhat into my pony play but I would really to know more about it so I might integrate it into other forms of play.

MasterFireMaam -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 12:02:17 PM)
Using them as furniture is common. My girl is often a footstool. I've seen cool tray tables made with mummified people. There's sexual objectification, too, where they're just a hole or a tool. Honestly, I don't know what they get out of it. I'd have serious problems with being treated as a "thing" if I were submitting. Master Fire

onestandingstill -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 12:12:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam Using them as furniture is common. My girl is often a footstool. I've seen cool tray tables made with mummified people. There's sexual objectification, too, where they're just a hole or a tool. Honestly, I don't know what they get out of it. I'd have serious problems with being treated as a "thing" if I were submitting. Master Fire Hello Master Fire, It's the challenge of doing just exactly what you've been instructed to do for me. I personally get a boost from serving as an object, doing what's asked of me to the best of my abilities, and being obedient. It's also about the notion I enjoy this is something specifically for the Dom's pleasure most of the time. My submission in my heart is never as deep as it is when I'm doing something ONLY for his pleasure. To me that's the key to what submission is all about. The ability to put aside one's own pleasure and desires and serve a Dom as a vessel the Dom would prefer you to for their pleasure. suzanne

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 12:19:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER wondering what other forms of objectification (other than ashtray) have people tried I have done the tray, table, art form and ? with a drink on her back while penetrating.... It is knowing that a submissive will hold a position for Me knowing it pleases Me. A few found the hood hard to understand as they felt is was a form of objectification as it depersonalized them and they wondered why I would not want to see their faces while also penetrating. Serving a a vehicle of My pleasure should be and was enough for them. Ross Bon D' Age' : BDSM http://tinyurl.com/ygblqt Designermite : http://tinyurl.com/ueov5 Soul of Motorcycle Art http://tinyurl.com/ybg73a

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 12:21:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: onestandingstillThe ability to put aside one's own pleasure and desires and serve a Dom as a vessel the Dom would prefer you to for their pleasure. Well put...yes indeed. Ross Bon D' Age' : BDSM http://tinyurl.com/ygblqt Designermite : http://tinyurl.com/ueov5 Soul of Motorcycle Art http://tinyurl.com/ybg73a

daddysprop247 -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 12:38:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER wondering what other forms of objectification (other than ashtray) have people tried I have done the tray, table, art form and ? with a drink on her back while penetrating.... It is knowing that a submissive will hold a position for Me knowing it pleases Me. A few found the hood hard to understand as they felt is was a form of objectification as it depersonalized them and they wondered why I would not want to see their faces while also penetrating. Serving a a vehicle of My pleasure should be and was enough for them. Ross Bon D' Age' : BDSM http://tinyurl.com/ygblqt Designermite : http://tinyurl.com/ueov5 Soul of Motorcycle Art http://tinyurl.com/ybg73a nods...serving purely as a tool for his pleasure is certainly enough for me. Master uses me in a similar fashion as you've described above Sir...tho not with a hood, often during intercourse he will cover my head with a pillow or towel, simultaneously suffocating and dehumanizing me. other times he'll completely cover every part of my body (usually with a heavy, large cloth of some kind) except for the particular hole that he is using, so that i am truly nothing more than a hole for him at that moment.

PONYSEEKER -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 1:07:09 PM)
Thanks for responding it certainly adds a lot insite to it. I have never seen the table thing and will have to look around on the internet to see if I can find a few examples.

SusanofO -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 1:12:55 PM)
Ponyplay (actually not real pony play, just a makeshift harness and bit, one time), and being treated like a Marilyn Monroe type of general sex object - just being admired for my body parts or looks or what I am wearing and being used that way, too I guess that would be sexual objectification, being used as a sex object - although I am never partly covered up when it's happened. When I say I like Objectification, I am not referring to being used as a table or a foot-stool, etc. - although I would not actualy object to that, it doesn't do much for me, and nobody has ever requested that. - Susan

littleone35 -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 1:37:44 PM)
For me objectification is a hard limit. I figure if Master wanted a footstool or tray table he would have bought one. He did not he wanted me that is why it is a hard limit for me. As for the sexual usage Master likes to see my face when we play he wants a sub not just a hole to use we both find that humilating and we are not into humilation. Matt's littleone

PONYSEEKER -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 2:44:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO Ponyplay (actually not real pony play, just a makeshift harness and bit, one time), and being treated like a Marilyn Monroe type of general sex object - just being admired for my body parts or looks or what I am wearing and being used that way- Susan This kind of Objectification is something that I love. I like to havea woman strip naked get on her knees in the middle of the room while I watch tv or do whatever... Sometimes I like to admire a woman like she was a piece of art so to speak or have a woman perform for me solely for my visual admiration which I know that the pony play I get into is very much a part of that. The training to create that perfect posture or gait and the outfits makes for quit a show that I can really get into.

SusanofO -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 6:57:08 PM)
I like it a lot. It makes me feel loved. Most submissives I know do (but maybe some don't, I don't know). - Susan

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 7:08:20 PM)
Goodness, I think this is the 5th time in two weeks I've posted links on objectification :) Here is my essay again on what objectification/humiliation means and does to me. My most common form of objectification is as a sex toy and a servant. Part of it is BECAUSE of my academic background, I'm very smart and very well educated. I think a LOT, I work a LOT, I am a control freak, I have moderate OCD, I am the social planner for my group of friends. Being an object means you don't have to think, you don't have to stress, you just have to BE that object. You are there, purely and passively, for service and use. There's no need for you to interpret anything, no need for you to react, only simply to BE there. That's a pretty awesome state of being for me. Another part, the shown off part, is because I am an exhibitionist, I get a huge charge out of people's energy when they enjoy looking and playing with me. They are giving ME lots of attention, they want to touch ME, they want to use ME for pleasure, I can provide them with a release, with a good time, a good memory. The sexual usage part is just part of my universal sex fantasy life- it's just hot to be used, hot to be a hole to go in, do your thing and get out. I don't really know much about that other than what I've already stated. I can't tell you why it gets me so deep any more than I can tell you why bondage does. Something most subs and slaves can understand- it takes away choice. You don't have to think, you don't get to say no, you are there to always say YES, an object, a trophy doesn't get to say stop or get to dictate how it is used. I am somewhat materialistic in that I like to use my money and gifts to show people I care for them. It's a physical thing I can give to show I've been thinking of them and want to add to their lives. While I understand they don't NEED those things, it's a very powerful idea to me. So, to BE the object itself, to be given to someone else, has a distinct personal flavor to it. You'll notice- all of these reasons are about ME, what I enjoy, what I get out of it. The Owner will pass me around and use me in ways I don't necessarily enjoy directly. He will send me to people I don't have an affinity for, partly because he KNOWS I don't have an affinity for them. So I don't necessarily always love it, with anyone, anywhere. There are definitely circumstances in which I really hate it. While I love attention, I am actually quite uncomfortable ASKING for attention, I am very uneasy when people actually look at me and say "Now, I'm going to give you all this attention, just for you, just to enjoy, and there's nothing you can do about it." Part of it is because not too many people are actually really GOOD at giving me happy pleasure, part of it is that I've trained myself to adapt and become what the OTHER person needs for that session, which, if it's a good match, will also be what I need. And part of it is just my innate shyness and discomfort with being a focal point of attention. I don't know what to do with it, I feel very exposed. Perhaps a paradox for someone who LOVES being exposed, but that's why I call humiliation a "burning." So, the humiliation and objectification is a keen way for me to receive attention, which I love, while being passive about asking for it and simply being a pretty little butterfly that people are attracted to, rather than dealing with the harder ordeal for me of directly asking and directly being told to sit back and enjoy. http://www.collarchat.com/m_354018/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#354196 humiliation??? http://www.collarchat.com/m_412944/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#413037 what is good humiliation to you? http://www.collarchat.com/m_426015/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#426025 humiliation vs degradation http://www.collarchat.com/m_489256/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#489324 humiliation and vulnerability http://www.collarchat.com/m_310209/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#310223 Humiliation- verbal and physical http://www.collarchat.com/m_266448/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#266532 humiliation ideas Slaves on display via webcam? Fat Cow? Verbal humiliation (rehashed) Humiliation and Degradation Erotic Humiliation Female Humiliation- in the scene Asking for humiliation Favorite Forms of humiliation Humiliation Humliation Play Favorite forms of humiliation Erotic Humiliation and Objectification Why such problems with humiliation? Fun ideas for humiliation Humiliation (2) Verbal Humiliation Help with humiliation please! Your thoughts on humiliation please Questions about humiliation

ownedgirlie -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/14/2006 8:59:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER Thanks for responding it certainly adds a lot insite to it. I have never seen the table thing and will have to look around on the internet to see if I can find a few examples. He occasionally eats dinner off my back as I remain perfectly still on my hands and knees...hence, table :) Other objectifications: * Toilet * Fuck hole, or his masturbation doll * various animal types - usually a dog or a pig * Table, ottoman, pillow, foot rest, doormat (literally) * Ass cleaner * Punching bag (it's a long story, lol) * Live Art * Coat rack I love all of it and then some. I love to know that on some occasions I am nothing more than an object (I love just staying out of his way until called upon) and on the other hand he loves me and appreciates me (I am blissful to the core when he is dear to me). I love being multifunctional for him, and it warms him to know I will willingly and eagerly serve in whatever function he sets out for me. He does these things because he loves that I will stretch my mind to accomplish them and that makes him very proud. Plus being treated that way just drives me wild....yum.

afeathr -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/15/2006 8:22:47 AM)
It's funny this topic came up as Sir and I were discussing it the other day. I had asked, at one point, about objectification as I know that it is something he is good at, and enjoys at times, but says he doesn't like to do so with me. But the funny thing came up when we were at a local Jewish restaurant and He was talking about the coitus ritual of the Orthodox Jews as related to marriage. Apparently, on the night of the wedding the bride will be covered with a sheet that contains only a hole (and this is done by elders of the group, not the groom) for the groom's use. I kind of had to chuckle when I saw Sir's face while he was talking about that. He grimaced and shook his head saying, "the female form is much too valuable to put under a sheet and not be appreciated." That pretty much covered it for me. Other forms of objectification may be of interest, I know that there are many times that I have been nothing more than a masterbation tool, etc. I enjoy that very much because I enjoy giving Sir pleasure, but He hasn't used me as furniture or such. I do serve him all of the time, as a maid-type servant, but that is a different thread.

afeathr -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/15/2006 8:30:26 AM)
I always knew there was something about you that I really liked, LA, and your statements in this thread just hit the nail on the head. Especially about not asking for attention. I am very much the same way. When Sir and I met, I told him that I was "difficult" because I had always been told I was. I never really knew how to explain it because I didn't want to say that I am an attention junky (and really have never said that out loud to anyone until just now).

MrrPete -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/15/2006 9:33:05 AM)
Well, I'm an attention junky too. I love it when a woman begs, cajoles, caresses me to get what she wants. But I appreciate her obedience all the more when it's given as LA has described.

Wildfleurs -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/15/2006 11:24:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER I didnt want to steal a thread. I dont know that much about objectification and I was wondering what other forms of objectification (other than ashtray) have people tried and what do they get out of it? Its something that I have been curiouse about and I can see in a way how it does creep somewhat into my pony play but I would really to know more about it so I might integrate it into other forms of play. We've done objectification of me being a footstool/lazy boy and table. And in many ways I think just the status of being a slave is in many respects being an object (so just the status is an objectification in many respects). When I'm a lazy boy or table its just like a really peaceful zen like headspace - kind of like when you are holding poses in yoga. C~ Edited to add: I read the thread and there were other activities that we've done that I guess I didn't consider under objectification but kinda are - like toilet duty and pillow over head during sex shtuff. Those to me are about a blend of things so its different for me than being a literal furniture type object.

PONYSEEKER -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/15/2006 11:58:18 AM)
Thanks wildfleurs... wonderful site by the way I can tell you guys put a lot of work into it.

ScienceBoy -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/15/2006 5:59:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER Thanks for responding it certainly adds a lot insite to it. I have never seen the table thing and will have to look around on the internet to see if I can find a few examples. There are few things in the world like a lovely naked subby, with a rose in their teeth.. and a tummy covered in sushi. Not forgetting the wasabi, and the ginger..

SwPuno -> RE: Another Female Objectification Question (12/15/2006 11:05:21 PM)
quote: Being an object means you don't have to think, you don't have to stress, you just have to BE that object. You are there, purely and passively, for service and use. There's no need for you to interpret anything, no need for you to react, only simply to BE there. That's a pretty awesome state of being for me. Another part, the shown off part, is because I am an exhibitionist, I get a huge charge out of people's energy when they enjoy looking and playing with me. They are giving ME lots of attention, they want to touch ME, they want to use ME for pleasure, I can provide them with a release, with a good time, a good memory. The sexual usage part is just part of my universal sex fantasy life- it's just hot to be used, hot to be a hole to go in, do your thing and get out. I don't really know much about that other than what I've already stated. I can't tell you why it gets me so deep any more than I can tell you why bondage does. Something most subs and slaves can understand- it takes away choice. You don't have to think, you don't get to say no, you are there to always say YES, an object, a trophy doesn't get to say stop or get to dictate how it is used. <snip> While I love attention, I am actually quite uncomfortable ASKING for attention, I am very uneasy when people actually look at me and say "Now, I'm going to give you all this attention, just for you, just to enjoy, and there's nothing you can do about it." <snip> And part of it is just my innate shyness and discomfort with being a focal point of attention. I don't know what to do with it, I feel very exposed. Perhaps a paradox for someone who LOVES being exposed, but that's why I call humiliation a "burning." Similar to what LA said, I often find objectification to be relaxing. It's not a sub situation where I have to think of something clever or keep track of a lot, I can just act as the object in question and wait for further instructions. I'm sure that can be boring after a while but so far it has not gone on that long for me. And I'm sure that could be fixed somewhat by putting headphones on the slave and having them listen to a favorite CD or a recording of their Tops voice or an orgy or something. And I agree that it is a way to submit without being the focus of attention. This is particularly good for those who aren't exhibitionists who need or want to be the focus of attention. Sometimes it is very nice to be submitting and useful while still being a side attraction or almost afterthought to the dom/me. It makes it seem more "real" in a way, that you are submitting without the dom/me having to focus their attention on you. And that aspect can be sort of humiliating in a good way too, that you are not a person for your top to interact with at the time, you are a whatever object you are acting as at the time, be it coffee table, shoe stand, dance floor, whatever. I also like the multifunctional aspect that another poster mentioned, that you are useful to the top in a number of ways, in addition to the traditional roles of servant, sex slave, gofer, whatever. And finally, of course, it is fun for a while to take on the roles or characteristics of whatever object you are emulating, especially if you are shy or sometimes don't feel like you are giving all you could just by being yourself.

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