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RE: Facing your fears - 12/16/2006 5:11:15 PM   
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I call it the little room in my attic where I keep all my fears and issues sometimes it comes open on its own other times its opened and my fears are invited out for all the world to see.  How do I face them? well I journal writing down my fears helps me to step up and face it head on.  Other times I crawl into bed and say I will try again tommorw . Always prayer whether I am facing it or hiding from it.

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RE: Facing your fears - 12/20/2006 12:19:13 AM   
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i think we all have some fears, usually of the unkown - or is it dread of the unknown. There are just soemthings out there that you mind just does not want to think about - especially in regards to pain! Those are just items you must daily face.

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RE: Facing your fears - 12/20/2006 5:20:56 AM   
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That's very hard.  It would depend so much on what it was he wanted me to do and why it scared me.
Sometimes it's not even that I need him there to comfort me afterwards as that I need him there to remind me that I'm his, and so I have to do it even if it's hard, and I need him there to make sure I do whatever my orders are, because it's too easy to give into the fear otherwise.  And I need him to see me do it and then tell me how proud he is of me.
Sometimes I need him there to hug and snuggle me afterwards and hold me.  Sometimes I need him to talk me through the pain. 
If part of what you're scared of is doing things without him, you can work on that.  Take a deep breath.  Think about how you managed to get through it last time, and it won't last forever.  Think how proud he'll be of you, and how good you'll feel to have made him proud. 
I understand that feeling of worthlessness, we all have that feeling.  Sometimes as a submissive you worry that while the dominant appreciates your obedience, he doesn't appreciate you.  If this dom is willing to work with you and deal with your fears, it would seem that he wants you, and not just a convenient lay.  So think about that too.  If he's not, then he's a stupidhead.  Because I read your profile, and while I'm a submissive female and therefore not what you're looking for (and you're not what I'm looking for), you sound like a great catch.  And I kinda want to hug you.
Do you guys talk about other things, about life in general?  Because that helps establish the relationship as being about more than just sex, at least it does for me.

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RE: Facing your fears - 12/20/2006 10:46:12 AM   
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with constant guidance and training from my Daddy/Dom, i'm overcoming my fear of  rejection. being a BBW submissive, my fear that men will reject me because of my size (not the size 4 model here).

oh i know i'm beautiful, sensual etc but it's my confidence in myself that crumbles when i have to meet men in person. you wouldn't think so in the profession i'm in (work as a concert reviewer - so i'm meeting men all the time). slowly i'm coming out of my shell after meeting a few guys in person who like me for me.



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RE: Facing your fears - 12/21/2006 2:47:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

Okay, let me just say I had an epiphany moment after posting this, but I'll still try to explain.  Please bear with me as it's hard to be so open.
And you are doing good in doing so to begin with :)

Without giving my boring life history here, I'm sure my fears are the same as many others.  Because of past relationships and how I was treated (no pyhsical abuse), I have fears and insecurities that I don't matter, I'm not important, I'll never be enough and that I'll never be anything more than a convenient sex partner for a guy, rather than loved and cherished.  In the past, friends have told me I should speak up and tell the guy what I need from him, etc.... 

that would be insecurity and self esteem to work on.
I'm not a pushy or demanding person, and I'm sure some of that has to do with not feeling worthy enough to make demands.  But I have stepped up on numerous occasions in relationships and stated what I needed.  As Dr. Phil would say, "how's that working out for you?"  Well it didn't, ever.  Which reaffirmed my fears that I wasn't enough and didn't matter to them.  There's the part of me that knows I am a good person, a wonderful, sexy, smart, sensual, warm, funny, compassionate woman that deserves more, but I seem to keep making choices that tell me otherwise, feeding my fears and insecurities.
i have been told that also, many times. so is there such a thing as being too open, too trusting, too secure in yourself in that you will go on once again if it happens again? i sure hope so!

When I was 28, a guy I trusted tried to rape me.  He told me I was a filthy slut that needed a real man to put me in my place.  He said he could see it in my eyes the first time he laid eyes on me.  I fought him until he gave up, but I stopped dating after that and focused on other things in my life, until two years ago when I said ENOUGH.  But once I started dating again, it was the same thing as before.
have you dealt with the rape? not just in your head, but in who you are? it comes out in many different colours as i've found out. a counselor told me i have dealth with it in my head, as i can, but that i haven't in my core. in my shape, in my protection of myself. i need to process that. although each rape is different it affects you. in my case i was young. and the guy, my ex boyfriend, went on after me, the same night, and abducted, raped and murdered a young mother. if i hadn't of not fought could that have been me? i'll never know. but everything we go thru is who we are. has shaped our lives. it has made our decisions. brought us to where we learn something.

In the middle of a very vanilla relationship a year ago, I started the phase of my personal journey to where I am now.  Acceptance and understanding my submissive nature.  That relationship ended last spring with two other brief ones to follow until I came to where I am now.  My submissive nature has been there as long as I can remember, confusing me and most likely affecting the choices I made in relationships.

In each relationship I gave my everything - probably too much too soon.  Yet I was taken for granted and treated like a toy to be played with when it was convenient, although one had at least some depth and caring in it.  Basically I guess you could say I was objectified.  The attempted rape left me feeling like I was just a thing, a nothing, something dirty and unworthy.  That something I was doing sent the message that I could be used and cast aside with no care for the person, the woman inside.

Besides the fears that I'm not worth the trouble, that I'll never be enough, that I don't matter and will once again be taken for granted.... I don't really want to go into specifics here, but I feel that some of the things He has told me to do have brought forth that fear in various manifestations.  Because He is not with me physically, the fears become overwhelming to the point that I cannot bring myself to do what he tells me too.  Part of it is that I need Him to see me while I do these things for him, so that I know he sees me as the real person and not just the person on the phone or computer.  Does that make sense?

I hate feeling this way and I'm sure it sounds totally stupid to some of you, but I can't help it.  Were he with me when I'm required to do this stuff, I know I could do it, and completing that task will give me the sense of accomplishment for him, and remove a layer of this fear and further building the trust between us.  I can't surrender all of my control to Him, when the fears are controlling that part of me.  I know a major part of this is about trust.... I know that.  Does it make sense that I trust him with my body, but it's the fears that keep me from trusting him with the rest?  I have shared things with him that I've never shared with anyone else, so I'm not holding back on sharing my thoughts, feelings and fears.  I also realize that the ball is basically in his court as to whether or not he will help me work through this.  And now I come full circle back to the fear that I'm not worth the trouble and he won't.

I hope this makes sense and I apologize for the length.
please don't appologize for length. it is getting out what maybe needs to get out. in where you feel is a safe place. it sounds like you need something other than an LDR. that is nothing to be ashamed about. is this heading towards a real time relationship? if not i honestly would rethink it. i hate to say that. but there are things that you need to work on, it sounds like, that needs the real aspect. please feel free to contact me anytime. if you wish. :-)

hugs and realize it is all a journey.

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RE: Facing your fears - 12/21/2006 7:48:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: blushingflower
If part of what you're scared of is doing things without him, you can work on that.  Take a deep breath.  Think about how you managed to get through it last time, and it won't last forever.  Think how proud he'll be of you, and how good you'll feel to have made him proud. 
I understand that feeling of worthlessness, we all have that feeling.  Sometimes as a submissive you worry that while the dominant appreciates your obedience, he doesn't appreciate you.  If this dom is willing to work with you and deal with your fears, it would seem that he wants you, and not just a convenient lay.  So think about that too.  If he's not, then he's a stupidhead.  Because I read your profile, and while I'm a submissive female and therefore not what you're looking for (and you're not what I'm looking for), you sound like a great catch.  And I kinda want to hug you.
Do you guys talk about other things, about life in general?  Because that helps establish the relationship as being about more than just sex, at least it does for me.



Blushing, thank you so much for your sweet reply!  {{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}

He and I are working through these issues, and I know it won't happen overnight, but I know it will happen.

Each day that passes brings me a better understanding of ME, and the stripping away of all of those things that keep me from being completely His. 

I never quite understood what others said that there is freedom in slavery, but boy are they right! 

Thank you all again for the responses.

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RE: Facing your fears - 12/21/2006 9:09:03 AM   
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The thing about dealing with your fears is going all the way to the core issue.  i think i drive Master crazy with this.  Sir thinks i am dwelling on it, i feel i am sorting through my issues thourougly so i can really learn to get past them and be all i can be for him.  The difficult is allowing him to decide how far into "issues" i go, and honoring HIS criteria for "all i can be". this slave is trying to learn to give him control of how deep i go, but enthusiasm keeps getting in the way.

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RE: Facing your fears - 12/21/2006 9:22:23 AM   
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you would not want a car with out breaks, right? that what your fears are, breaks to keep you safe. now you dont sound stuck in your fears, that i think would be an issue that would need help professionally...you sound very normal and your fears sound very normal.
 
over time every one of those fears will go away as he shows through actions that he is who he says he is.
 
i am with LA here though with out specifics we really cant offer much....i would say that you are in a LDR, and part of you is in subspace and la la slave land...yes i have been to that ooooossshy goooshy place and it is lovely indeed.
 
but part of you is like "hey wait a second bub, you are not even here, you want me to give myself to you, yet i cant see you, or feel you in front of me...and honesty angel, this part is your common sense...giving as much as you are, online, to me, is not wise, but then i have been one of the countless cyber trainwrecks....that you most likely have heard about.
 
you feel free to set some boundaries, some breaks  if you will, so that you dont go careening down the mountain with out a way to stop....this is a natural body response, based in wisdom, and when he can be your dom in your arms then you can take those breaks off...till then, you keep your wits about you girl
 
because if you dont verbally set boundaries with him, you will subconsciously set them with out him, passive aggressiveness is the resistance to commands. in some schools of thought it is called 'reactance', it has its own name because it is so common, it is the railing up against a command, this can be done in so many ways, fear is one of them.
 
i love what jali said about trust, and i am all for that, and i love what LA said about it being ok to be selfish and weak too....
 

 
 

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RE: Facing your fears - 12/21/2006 10:21:20 PM   
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this is exactly why i don't DO long distance.  i need my Dom to be by my side.  i'm needy that way and there's nothing wrong with it.

is there a possibility of relocation?  if you've been together long enough like several years?

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RE: Facing your fears - 12/21/2006 10:32:16 PM   
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The only way I can think to answer this is to tel you what happened with us, in the hopes that it might help.
The fears Angel had to face were specifically becasue of our first meeting.  He needed to face them without me, becasue he had to figure out for himself if he could manage to give himself up and be part of the lifestyle. For 2 weeks we were competely without contact so that I didnt get in the way of his decision making.  Afterwards, he did tell me that had we not been long distance, he probably would not have had those problems or fears.  Having me closer by would have changed things drastically. 
He still deals with the fear of not being able to be what I want him to be. He has spent his entire life being told he isnt good enough, so now that I am happy with him he is waiting for that to al fall apart. Self esteem is the hardest thing in the world to repair, it takes so little effort to destroy and so much to attempt to rebuild.  I remind him constantly how important he is, and that he is my pride and joy.  I know it hasnt completely gotten rid of that little fear, but at least I am making an effort to be there for him as best I can while we are separated.

Each of us has fears.  We al have to figure out how to deal with them to the best of our abilites.  Those of us who are dominant can help our submissives along where possible, but sometimes we just cant be there.  And trust me, it kills me sometiems that I cant be there for him.

Hope this helps somewhat
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RE: Facing your fears - 12/22/2006 7:20:53 AM   
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There's different kinds of fears, and in such a personal relationship you need to discuss them with your partners. For example, I have a fear of rejection, but I could face it and overcome it etc. On the other hand, I have a deep seated fear of suffocation, and if someone did try to suffocate me or choke me (i like collars though) I would see them as the enemy and would never look at them the same ever due to things done to me when I was younger and would never get over it. You need to distinguish the differences between your fears, and the extent to which having to deal with them would affect your relationship. Talking and communication works best  good luck.

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RE: Facing your fears - 12/22/2006 8:24:11 AM   
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    How true!!! 

That is the thing this girl likes most about M/s.  she and her Master  have been together almost 4 years, and she has never felt closer to him (spiritually).  she thinks it is in part because he is teaching her to deal with her fears and helping her sort through them. 

she hopes she takes good care of him too.

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