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A question of terms - 12/17/2006 7:35:39 PM   
angaothsi


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I recently began reading and posting in the forum again and I have seen a few terms that I do not know, so to avoid offending anyone with my ignorance could someone please tell me what the terms boi and grrl mean? I may add more questions to this and I would be thankful for any replies.
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RE: A question of terms - 12/17/2006 8:05:54 PM   
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Taken from Wikipedia:
Boi is a deliberately altered spelling of boy, and is sometimes used as a synonym for male when referring to young adults. 'Boi' may refer to a young-appearing (and in reality relatively young) bisexual or homosexual male, especially one who is somewhat effeminate, or who merely wishes to distinguish himself with a different term from heterosexual boys.
It may also refer to a female-born or female-bodied person—sometimes transsexual, transgendered, or intersexed, sometimes not—who generally does not identify as, or only partially identifies as feminine, female, a girl, or a woman, although some bois identify as one or more of these. Bois almost always identify as lesbians, dykes, or queers; many are also genderqueer or practice genderfuck. Bois can prefer a range of pronouns, including 'he', 'she', or gender-neutral pronouns.
Some transmen identify as bois, but others object to being called 'boi,' preferring to simply be called 'boy,' 'man,' or 'transman.'
Some butch lesbians, female crossdressers, and tomboys also identify as bois, and some people use the word 'boi' to refer to a young butch. In some BDSM communities, 'boi' is used as a term for a submissive and/or bottom butch.

Punk and Goth subcultures
'Boi' is also used in goth and punk subcultures to refer to a young man who experiments with traditionally "feminine" things such as eyeliner, frills, and the like.

Unfortunately, I cannot find any specific definition of "grrl" other than references to it in regards to "Riot Grrl" music and several other sorts of grrls in usually male interests, like gaming *eyeroll*. I'm assuming it's more of a radical feminist thing than I've ever been interested in. I hope what I found was informative enough.

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RE: A question of terms - 12/17/2006 9:22:08 PM   
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Thank you so much for all the information!

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RE: A question of terms - 12/18/2006 12:19:36 AM   
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You are quite welcome. I collect random facts and it actually irritates me when I can't find enough on something that catches my interest. Whenever I can pass along something I know, it makes me happy. Wikipedia is bookmarked on my computer with good reason.

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hajimete kimi ni atta hoshizora no shita de.
Kimi ni tsutaetai todokanai omoi demo
boku no kokoro wa mada kimi o sagashiteiru.

Gackt - Kimi ni Aitakute

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RE: A question of terms - 12/18/2006 10:21:25 AM   
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well, Calliope.... i'd say that was pretty dang accurate. don't think you left anything out.


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a.k.a. "onewhocallshymselfaboi"

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RE: A question of terms - 12/18/2006 11:48:09 AM   
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Yay! Wikipedia for the win! And I believe you're correct, Calliope, that Grrl is a derivative of the Riot Grrl music scene. See: Bikini Kill, Heavens to Betsy, The Gossip, and to a lesser extent, Sleater Kinney.

Edit for clarity: it's a genre of punk-ish music with extreme feminist overtones. Less about the music, more about the message.


< Message edited by dskittyn22 -- 12/18/2006 11:53:28 AM >


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