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recovery time - 12/18/2006 8:20:43 AM   
liks2plzlf


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Status: offline 		Some of the Dominants have posted, or entered in their journals, pretty vived details about discipline they have adminstered. Some even have pics of the aftermath. Hopefully, this is more between sadists and masochists. Hopefully!! My question is, how long after that degree of discipline, can a sub/slave endure another without injury? I would assume it would take an older person longer to heal.
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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 8:44:46 AM   
crouchingtigress


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Status: offline 		you sound as though you are new...well welcome!
 
injury is never the goal...the bruising you see in pictures is purely for fun...injury is something different and is more like abuse...
 
as far as how long the sub can endure well there are several safe guards you can put in place when playing with some one you dont know...one is a safe word or action, which when used lets the top know you are at your limit....
 
and if you dont want to use a safe word because of what ever reason....you body will tell your dominant where your line is...they are looking for shifts in your experiance.... minute shifts, such as squirming , a shift in the tone of your moaning, speeding up your breathing, or clenching your body...
 
as far as healing goes, its a different kind of pain...yes you are bruised and sore but if you achieved it by sharing special time with some one you care deeply for, the pain has a different resonance and you actually enjoy looking and touching your bruises and or walking with a limp.
 
i think because it is a pain born out of erotic intimacy it is actually good for your body and i would bet (no evidence of this but my own exp) that you actually heal faster...
 
enjoy

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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 8:49:30 AM   
onestandingstill


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quote:

ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

Some of the Dominants have posted, or entered in their journals, pretty vived details about discipline they have adminstered. Some even have pics of the aftermath. Hopefully, this is more between sadists and masochists. Hopefully!! My question is, how long after that degree of discipline, can a sub/slave endure another without injury? I would assume it would take an older person longer to heal.

The general rule of thumb I follow is I do not play on top of bruises.
After that it's mostly geared to comfort.
For example after heavy nipple pinching play I would ask my Sir if we could wait till touching them is not so tender again before we played too heavily again, but I may still be open to do needle play through them as it's not a compression activity like the pinching was.
Listen to your body, heal between scenes, and if you still have marks and (lol like me) want to play before they go away play with a different part of your body than the injured one.
suzanne

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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 11:03:08 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Completely depends on the person/weapon/force/position/intent and many other things.

She could have a completely cut up back- but have nothing on her arms or ass.

Oh and not sure why you are so hopeful it's between masochists and sadists?  The only real issue is consenting adults.

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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 11:12:05 AM   
Voltare


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Status: offline 		liks2, it would seem that S&M isn't really your bag.  No biggie, just know that as quick as us Sadists are to beat and bruise, we're also the first to make sure that the masochist can handle it.  I wouldn't whip a slave with a wet noodle if she hadn't told me it's ok, and in my judgement, she could handle it both physically and emotionally.

How long it takes to heal depends greatly on the type of session, physical fitness, mental stability, yadda yadda.  The best yardstick is by just asking the masochist themself - they usually know better than you do how much they can (or can't) take.


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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 11:25:18 AM   
agirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

Some of the Dominants have posted, or entered in their journals, pretty vived details about discipline they have adminstered. Some even have pics of the aftermath. Hopefully, this is more between sadists and masochists. Hopefully!! My question is, how long after that degree of discipline, can a sub/slave endure another without injury? I would assume it would take an older person longer to heal.


I suppose it might depend on what your perception of the *aftermath* is and also what you mean by discipline.

If I was to recieve 400 strokes of the cane, you can be sure I'd be injured WELL before stroke 400 hits my bottom. It'll still happen, though.

I'm not a masochist and my Master isn't a sadist, either....and he wouldn't tote pictures of my bottom, in a mess, around on a web site, either.

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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 1:47:49 PM   
yourMissTress


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Status: offline 		I am a sadist, I love to see the results of my handiwork long after the play is over.  I think that the longest my girl has had any lasting bruising would be roughly 3 weeks.  Because of the severity of those bruises we didn't play over them, but that doesn't mean we didn't play in other ways.<weg>

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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 2:04:56 PM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		Agree with whats being said, Ive had bruises that have lasted 3-4 weeks, there are lots of areas of the body though.

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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 2:08:30 PM   
MsBearlee


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Status: offline 		Oh yummmm, and the tigress is right…again!  Welts and bruises are (or at least should be….in MY book) purely for fun.
 
You are only slightly older than myself, liks…and I’ve been welted up bloody, and deeply bruised over two nights at Thunder (a yearly event in Denver). 
 
Most of us who enjoy creating welts and bruises prefer a clean canvas whenever possible…so if at a multi-evening event; a submissive might get his or her back worked on one session, the butt and upper thighs another…and the front during yet another.
 
Not to worry, a good Dominant/Top has no interest in permanently injuring you…or putting you out of commission for too long; we like to play too, yanno!!!
 
Also, keep in mind…your partner should understand how to ramp up those endorphins!  Teaching you HOW to play is part of her/his responsibility…
 
Above all, have fun!  Marks are a good thing! 
 
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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 4:11:39 PM   
liks2plzlf


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the input. The reason I hope discipline that is rather severe, is just between sadists, and masochists, is so that I don't have to endure it. I agree S&M is not my bag, but from reading the posts, it is something I have resigned myself to accepting.The majority of dominants, even the ones who claims they are not sadists, enjoy inflicting pain.As much as I would like to avoid it, it does suggest a high degree of surrender to your dominant. A little exciting, but more scary. Hope that makes sense.

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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 4:40:43 PM   
diamonddreamlove


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Status: offline 		Don't write S&M off until you have tried it.  I would have sworn at one time that i would not wish to be spanked.  I was wrong, Then i didn't think flogging would be my thing wrong again.  I now try things before i say no not my thing.  There again Master expects me to try lots of things and now that i belong to Him i will try things i don't wish to try.  Pleasing him is important to me.  Hope you can experience the same pleasures in time and if not that atleast you find what makes you happy.

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RE: recovery time - 12/18/2006 4:43:58 PM   
KnightofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

My question is, how long after that degree of discipline, can a sub/slave endure another without injury?


There is no universal answer to this question.  One needs to consider alot of different variables that exist in each individual situation before one can give a reasonable anwer to that given situation.  Also, one's one particular experience and beliefs will affect the answer which may or maynot contribute to the accuracy of the answer as measure to healing result.

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RE: recovery time - 12/19/2006 6:32:19 AM   
MsBearlee


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quote:

ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

... I agree S&M is not my bag, but from reading the posts, it is something I have resigned myself to accepting.The majority of dominants, even the ones who claims they are not sadists, enjoy inflicting pain.As much as I would like to avoid it, it does suggest a high degree of surrender to your dominant. ...


Don't forget, sweetie; one boy's pain is another boy's tickle.  Same goes for Tops.  Some feel warming up a back with a bunnyflop-flogger is a beating...others are not happy untill the back is fairly filleted and dripping with blood.  It's all good.
 
Please keep in mind, you should probably not be playing with people who, right off the bat, take you further than you want to go.  I think things go much better if you take the time to get to know your partner and build a trusting relationship with them...before you play.  How long that takes, is certainly up to each couple; but a good Top is not going to really hurt you much the first time you play....if it is the first time you've played!
 
Beverly
...who falls somewhere inbetween.  LOL

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RE: recovery time - 12/19/2006 7:30:44 AM   
darksdesire


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Status: offline 		I don't particularly enjoy pain.  I do however, like sensation.  An erotic spanking and whipping that becomes increasingly intense as one's arousal increases however, is devine.  I don't experience that as pain, but as intense stimulation.  Sometimes there are bruises after, and I'm a little surprised because I hadn't known I'd been hit that hard.

I don't know what dominants who are also sadists would expect from a submissive who has a low tolerance and interest in pain.  My Master won't take me much further than what is pleasurable for me, because if I'm not having any fun, it's not fun for him either.  I'm hoping that at the least, a dominant who happens to be sadistic,  will push your tolerance slowly and gradually so as not to overwhelm you. 

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