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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 7:41:28 AM   
LotusSong


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ORIGINAL: Petruchio

Some will disagree with me, but in this modern age where anyone can walk at any time, I suggest if 3 or 4 have to live together, it helps to have some mutual agreement, some buy-in. At the very least, some input for feedback. I think it's particularly helpful if woman number 1 even does the groundwork, finding someone she thinks her man will approve of.

Just my thought as this particular moment of this particular day.

  In some cases it makes sense, as in if she is looking for a  same sex partner for herself, then it is quicker to have her find the other, and he will have to accept what SHE comes up with..and hope that the other one finds HIM attractive enough to serve.  Then thre rejection factor, he tried so hard to  avoid, is there again.   I think those with the "team approach" would be more successful

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 7:54:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


YOU got men wanting to lick your dirty feet and sniff your farts and cant get rid of them, there are a dearth of goofy mother fuckers out there sure;  but it is gender flopped, that aint what makes this end of the world go round.



My feet are perfectly pedicured with "I'm Not Really a Waitress Red" polish with gold artwork and a tasteful rhinestone (thankyouverymuch) and smell sweetly :)  And I only fart while singing Silent Night- ala Larry the Cabelguy.
 
Since we have ladies posting here.. if you seek another slave for your family..who does the hunting? 
 
(heh.. these are killer feet.. I think I should take a pic of them..)


Yes you should (foot pic, that is) - it's sooooo important to maintain the perfect pedicure status!!

As for the OP - Sir and I are always looking for "play things" and have had a hard time for the reasons that you state.  I think Sir is the bomb - hands down - but not every woman will see it that way.  We have taken to Him doing the majority of the hunting, and I follow up when necessary.  It's more comfortable for me, because then I know that He is satisfied with the girl that he picked (though, to be honest... pics and r/t are sometimes soooo different), and I get the veto vote (in most cases) if she is just not my style.

The real trick, though, is that we only want play things - not a poly relationship - and that is really hard to find (and keep) because there are few that really want to just play with a couple and not get serious with the Dom.

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 8:17:55 AM   
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Thank you ma'am. 
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A good Master would consider the well being of his slave, emotional well being included.

this girl really has a good Master, but she must learn to be HIS idea of good slave!!!

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 10:47:07 AM   
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I think most of those "ads" are actually single males trying to meet another female.
call it "trolling". and when she shows up she finds there is no other female.
If I was looking for a third she needs to fit who I am not who my slave is.

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 11:11:51 AM   
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ownedgirlie
Neither of us considers it hunting.  We both talk to people.  If there is compatibility, cool.  If not, then we move on.  He talks to more than I do about this particular topic.  But he believes such an arrangement would work best if the person I might be serving beside and I get along well.  I agree with him about that.


This is pretty much how it is for Master and I as well. The information is out there that another is welcomed but I do not actively seek (as in profiling profiles, and writing persons). If I run across a profile that I think Master might like..I tell him. If any female slave contacts me first..I try to just have friendly chat and answer any questions if they have some but Always included is how to reach Master. If they contact Master first..I am allowed to view whats going on, and he always states upfront that he has 1 slave already, and that at some point..us talking together will be a must.

Slave or not..your talking about actual relationships here with real feelings, and to deny involvement and compatibility before hand is just plain silly and wasteful time to me. Since Master and I are compatible..it is only fair that anyone coming into his home be able to have that same comfort with both of us. There is no marriage to slaves nor slave hiarchy...just slaves.

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 1:53:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

It would seem to me that the Master should do the hunting and then the first submissive would have the determining vote.. OR she would just have to accept your choice.
 
What works for you?

What works for me is doing what works for me and not worrying much about what others do. 

For some, or in some cases, letting the slave do the initial search might work quite well, but for others it wouldn't.  I don't see that any valid universal generalization can be made here.  What I do see is a certain risk in making such generalizations.  When people start making the assertion that one way is best, two things happen... first it starts sounding like "the one twue way" and second anything that isn't that starts seeming "morally wrong, etc."  And then people start getting labelled on the basis of opinions and not facts.

In some cases having the submissive do an initial search to present "candidates" could work quite well, particularly if the submissive has been educated on the dominants likes and dislikes (to which she would naturally be inclined to add her own, even if unconsciously, and thus would be more like to select candidates both would be happy with... in theory).  But then again it could be the act of a dominant who has dreams of having a harem, but not the motivation or ambition to actually make it happen and so employs the submissive to do what he can't be bothered to do himself (or herself).  If the submissive doesn't have a clear idea what to look for, it could be quite confusing and produce very random and unproductive results.  On the other hand a submissive who had clear guidelines to follow could help in sorting through various possibilities, and thus be providing a genuine service to the dominant. 

It also occurs to me that an unspoken assumption is being made here.  That if the submissive is looking for another submissive, that the dominant is then not doing so.  But that's a specious supposition, since there is not evidence to assume so (and no logical reason to assume so).  Perhaps they are both actively looking.

In the original post, there was reference to how this might affect the submissive emotionally.  An interesting allusion to perhaps another unspoken assumption, that this would be undesirable and unwanted by the submissive.  But can we say so?  If, and it seem certain we are discussing a poly relationship, if this is indeed the case then is it not more likely the submissive would be looking forward to the addition?  And could it not also be comforting to be part of that process?  There seems an underlaying suspicion of dominants here, a cynical tendancy to assign and attribute dishonest motives to their actions.  I find that disturbing when spoken of in such broad generalities... much in the same way I find that many women seem to broadly and generaly distrust men to be a disturbing trend.

All I can say, factually, about this, is that I can see some advantages to having a submissive do the initial search.  I can also see some disadvantages to it.  I can see some ways in which it might be the result of a lazy or "bad" dominant.  But I can also see where it might be the actions of a thoughtful and careful dominant.  So it really all just depends on the individuals doesn't it.

But most of all, what I see is something that cannot be judged at the surface.

So what do I think of it? 
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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 2:07:37 PM   
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Oh, You're Just No Fun Anymore!

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 2:28:58 PM   
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LotusSong asks:  It would seem to me that the Master should do the hunting [snip]  
 
What works for you?


Without a doubt, the Tomahawk-Bailey Beaver Trap.  Also known as a "suitcase trap", this is the most effective and humane beaver trap available.  When I go beaver hunting, it is the only hardware I use. Leg traps and snares are inherently cruel, and a trapped beaver is rarely submissive after a few hours in one -- they can and will bite your hand off!   Of course "conibear" traps are right out -- who wants a beaver with a crushed skull?

For bait, I use a fresh poplar or cherry log, with as much sap as possible.  Of course, in baiting beaver, you have to be sensitive to their seasons.  Hormones rule most females, you know!  Do you go for castor (scent gland essence that preys on the mating/sex drive)?  Do you go for a juicy and favored wood?  Or do you go for a meat scent?  I find most beavers in the wild respond well to wood, first, but I respect a Master trapper who uses castor, too.

Oddly enough, urban beavers are often attracted to large solitare-cut diamonds and late model European sports cars, so you could use that for bait too.

E.

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 2:35:49 PM   
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I think for a strictly sexual liaison, the Dominant/Master should just choose and consider the submissive physical attraction if  they so desire.  In a poly/live in type situation i believe it should be a joint effort on both parts. 
While I've had a couple of wonderful interludes with married couples,  In none of those instances would i have desired a long term poly relationship, either because the submissive female was not some one i could be more than friends with, or the  Male was not the type i would choose to serve. (especially since in that particular case, theirs was not a D/s relationship)
To me, it's very similar to a single parent bringing a potential new spouse into their young ones lives.  In my opinion, it's just not right for us to  inject someone into their lives and say "hey...this person will be living here from now on...deal with it"

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 2:39:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Oh, You're Just No Fun Anymore!


You should here me doing silly voices for my neice and nephew.

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 2:59:38 PM   
LotusSong


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ORIGINAL: Padriag

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Oh, You're Just No Fun Anymore!


You should here me doing silly voices for my neice and nephew.

 
I hope you clicked on the words..it's a Monty Pythhon link :)  Which would explain the way the phrase was meant :)

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 3:50:13 PM   
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It would open for me... some sort of error message about a malformed video ID... whatever that means.

Ah well, I'm still in a happy mood anyway... its the holidays, I enjoy them waaaaaaaaaay too much!

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 5:29:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Evlgryn

I almost never hear my slave of over 8 years say much  about what my talents might be within my hearing. I suspect she tells everyone that I snore, fart in bed and smell really really bad, behind my back.   Because that is what a woman, sitting on a good thing could be expected to do in the real world (OK, mebbe I am concieted about being a good thing but I DO A LOT of repeat business).



Yep Master, and I feel the need to add that you have a third nipple, a couple of stray hairs coming out of your nose that go all the way to your unibrow and a seventh toe!

C~


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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 5:35:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Padriag

It would open for me... some sort of error message about a malformed video ID... whatever that means.

Ah well, I'm still in a happy mood anyway... its the holidays, I enjoy them waaaaaaaaaay too much!


OH Pooh!  Try this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmEFXlZYBi0

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/22/2006 10:44:52 PM   
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I am not one for Poly, but I can see the logic in this. Having your submissive find someone she is comfortable with, she wouldnt mind sharing her Master with, and then taking the veto makes sense.

Rather than you finding one and either
a) have complications when you introduce her to your sub
b) have complications months down the line and argue


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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/24/2006 1:30:03 PM   
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I've only done the poly thing at play parties.  And both of us just get to talking to a girl, and if it goes well, one of us will ask the third if she wants to play. 

I find not surprising my sub to be the best policy.  Surprises sometimes result in unpleasant behavior.

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/24/2006 1:45:01 PM   
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What works for me is everyone being included every step of the way.

This piecemeal thing, whether it's the dom or the sub is just not the most effective way to begin a foundation on a solid relationship.


I agree... never understood the one way approach... regardless of one direction one is coming from.  It just makes sense to me to envolve all the individuals in the developement and building of the relaitonship.

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 12/24/2006 2:45:09 PM   
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Ok  i believe some have said simular things but we have taken this approach we discussed the idea of a third joining us, then we both started looking, if we meet someone who is interested in the idea then we set up a dialog between all 3 of us. At the end of the day we are all going to have to get along if we want it to last so lets all be happy from the start.

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 2/12/2007 12:47:33 AM   
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I would take the time to find my own sub, after all, who does the owning around here? lol.... It's not a competition to see who can acquire the most subs!

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RE: Having Subs Seek the Third - 2/12/2007 7:07:50 AM   
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For those who say to the alpha "Take it or leave it" there is always the very real chance she'll leave. She can always find another dom a lot easier than a dom can find another sub.

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