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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 6:45:09 AM   
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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 8:10:26 AM   
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Oh my goodness! People get busy. People have other things they're doing in their lives. Their lives are NOT always about you (and I have a feeling your head knows this but hasn't yet been able to convince your emotions of this fact.) Repeat to yourself "I am not the center of the universe, but I am the center of mine" OFTEN...and then get busy doing things which make your universe better for you other than worrying about someone else's universe.

Seriously, it really is the only way to deal with this kind of stuff.

And contrary to popular opinion around here, in my opinion, you need to do this often, and be faced with this quandry often - until you get to the point where you are more comfortable being your own person. It won't make any relationship you choose "less than" just because you decide to go see a play, read a book, go to the movies, head out for a walk, meet a friend for coffee, bake cookies for your neighbors (that way you won't eat them yourself), call your mother, meet your sister, volunteer at your favorite charity or find a new charitible organization in which to volunteer, go exploring places you've never gone before near you, go for a drive in the country, a walk in the city, listen to good music - and sing along! try your hand at rap music and realize just how hard that is to do, learn to cook something new, have some friends over for dinner, go do something you've never done before, face a fear. In fact, it will make YOU "more so" because you'll have interests and interesting things you've done that you can share with the dominant you're seeing. When you start doing these things, I think you'll find that the time in between when you see her and when you don't will pass much more quickly, and you will be less ravaged by these constant worries.

I have to say that there are lots of folks out there who make all these comments about how feelings are just feelings and no one can help how they feel. However, I believe that there's a difference between healthy feelings and when emotions are ruling your every thought and action. When emotions rule, in my experience, you really need to stop giving so much credence to your feelings and start forcing your more logical side to take control of your out of control emotions. In other words, you need to control your emotions, and not allow them to control you. It CAN be done.

Much of how any of us react is scripted out long before we ever get in the position where we're feeling what we're feeling. The scripts originate in things that have happened long long ago in our lives. Back then, we reacted in certain ways and found that for that time, they worked. So, we've continued to use those reactions until they've become part of a larger script that we don't even realize we're reading.

Think of your emotions in the same manner you would think of a little girl who isn't getting her way (no, I'm not saying you're immature or bratty or anything like that) or is scared. When a little girl doesn't get her way, and even more so, when she's scared, she tends to overworry. She tends to panic. Sometimes, she even has temper tantrums. More often though, she spends a lot of time crying and not being able to explain herself well at all. Ask yourself if you're doing this. Chances are, you are, even though you've been able to give yourself some decent adult justifications for that behavior.

Then, I'd suggest, in your head, taking that little girl who is having a temper tantrum by the hand and let her know she's not in control anymore, and that the adult you will be taking care of her. Strange as it may seem, this worked wonders for me.

And then....get busy.

You are not the center of the universe, but you are the center of yours...and you have control over your universe. When you have a dominant who is a very busy person, you MUST be self-reliant enough to be able to manage on your own without tearing yourself apart in the process. I swear, this is the only thing that worked for me.

Nowdays, when he's busy, so am I. When I'm not busy, it's because, for the most part, I've chosen not to be busy, and that's good too.

Yes, there'll still be times you'll be frustrated, but the duration and intensity of that frustration will be significantly more manageable than what you're facing right now.

just my .02

juliet


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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 8:46:58 AM   
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I think it is also important for you to realize that a D/s relationship is a two way street. Your needs are just as important as hers. Therefore, it is incumbant upon you to communicate those needs to her. You are a sub that needs a master who communicates with you and stays in touch. How can a sub know what to do if his/her master goes incomunicado frequently?

Tell her you need constant communication and reassurance in order to be the best slave/sub you can be. If that doesn't work for her, then she neeeds a more independant slave and you are not right for eachother.

Just because she is the only one knocking on your door right now, doesn't mean she is the only option out there.

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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 9:22:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WestWanderer


My question to you other submissives is, how do you deal with dissapointment? I don't want to hurt her, I trust her very much and I really apreciate her but I hate getting into these funks, what should I do?


If your depression is being treated, take your meds as directed.  If not, seek professional help.

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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 10:47:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

actions speak louder then words.....she is showing you what priority a relationship has in her life...not right or wrong good or bad...but it is the truth.


crouchingtigress, I'm only quoting your post to address this issue of priorities,  abilities to prioritize and where relationships stand in that dominant's life, because others made this point as well, I'd like to point out that by the OP's admission, they only met a few weeks ago. I'd say that at this point, there is only the beginnings of a possible relationship, and as of yet, no real relationship to figure out - whether play has happened or not.

These are still just two people getting to know each other. Neither are under any obligation of committment to keep in touch with the other or be aware, and concerned with each other's current level of "worry" when it comes to what the other is doing.

While the original poster is stating her concerns, the fact is that in terms of their relationship, such as it is, it appears it may be more a case of too much too fast, and unless she gets ahold of her emotions, she just may be doing herself more harm than good by her continual and serial worrying.

Patience is a wonderous thing.

juliet

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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 11:41:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: julietsierra

quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

actions speak louder then words.....she is showing you what priority a relationship has in her life...not right or wrong good or bad...but it is the truth.


These are still just two people getting to know each other. Neither are under any obligation of committment to keep in touch with the other or be aware, and concerned with each other's current level of "worry" when it comes to what the other is doing.



Juliet..I agree with what you say on this..however I think CT was responding also to the OP's original statement

quote:

Actually we are supposed to meet today but I can't get in touch with her and she hasn't called and it's getting late and so I think it's just not going to happen tonight.


Regardless of how new a potential relationship is, there should be some trust building going on. A simple phone call breaking the date would have gone further than a simple end of communication.

Hope you are enjoying your holiday

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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 11:48:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedSavageSlave

Juliet..I agree with what you say on this..however I think CT was responding also to the OP's original statement

quote:

Actually we are supposed to meet today but I can't get in touch with her and she hasn't called and it's getting late and so I think it's just not going to happen tonight.


Regardless of how new a potential relationship is, there should be some trust building going on. A simple phone call breaking the date would have gone further than a simple end of communication.

Hope you are enjoying your holiday


Yup, I reread that too. As my daughter (age 19, so she's no longer an unmentionable) would say "Mommy, I walk away. I just walk away." (she's disabled and learning how to manage when people treat her poorly)

Sound advice.

Happy holidays to you as well. We celebrated last night and today, the rest of my family is off to their father's for more unbridled eathing and celebrating. And I'm off for a nap. Enjoy your day.

juliet

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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 2:56:38 PM   
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Oh wow, I never expected so many responses, I thank you all again though for the advice. All of it, and I really am thinking it over and I've gotten a lot from this already.

But it seems I've been a little misunderstood, or that I've come off in a way that I had not intended. I don't blame her for my feelings julietsierra, I own my own depression and I did say that her busy life is well justified. I was simply asking for advice on how to deal with my own emotions, I thought I might not be the only submisive who's ever been in this situation you know? I have no delusions about being the center of the universe. Hehe, and also I am a male by the way, but I get confused for a woman all the time. No big deal, I actually find it quite amusing.

The fact that so many have given me sound advice makes me feel loads better. When I can get in touch with her again I'll do my best to talk these feelings over with her.

Thanks everyone :)

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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 6:37:47 PM   
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WestWanderer,

I happen to have a pretty demanding set of priorities, too.  Many times I have made plans to meet with My sub when suddenly things fell through and we've had to cancel for one reason or another.

I think what's important in this situation is that she is failing to grant you the courtesy that you deserve.  I wouldn't dream of leaving my sub wondering whether we'd be getting together, I'd let him know and keep him posted as to My plans!

I always give My sub the courtesy of letting him know as soon as possible that we won't be able to meet, and I also tell him WHY, so that he doesn't agonize over any imagined slight.  For example: I intend to meet My sub after work one evening and we spend several days setting it up and making plans.  Suddenly, mid afternoon, I'm given a report with an immediate deadline that I must meet, and I end up having to work so late that we can't get together.  I call him as soon as the plans go awry, and I let him know it's work related so that he doesn't sit waiting for Me, wondering whether I'm with someone else or wondering why I don't bother to even call.

I believe that kind of 'wondering' is what is causing you pain.  It would hurt anyone's feelings, sub slave or otherwise!

My boy tells me those situations always make him feel like Charlie Brown, when Lucy Van Pelt encourages him to 'kick the football, Charlie Brown! I'll hold it, I will!" ....then when he takes a flying leap Lucy yanks the ball away and he slams to the ground with a "whump".  That imagery, of how miserably knocked out of wind he is when our plans don't materialize, encourages Me to make every effort to keep our plans once they are set.

It sounds to me as though your 'Lucy' is not only yanking the ball away, she doesn't bother to tell you when, or why.  Anyone would get disappointed and 'in a funk' if they were treated that way!

How should you handle it?

Tell her directly.  "I thought we were going to get together, and when I didn't hear from you it made me feel as though I don't matter to you at all", or whatever it is that you are feeling, in your own words.

Talk about it.  Tell her how it feels to be left hanging.

I think that her response, or lack thereof, and/or her effort or lack of effort to correct her behavior will tell you which way you need to go with this 'relationship'.

Good luck, let us know what develops.

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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/25/2006 7:36:50 PM   
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I have those thoughts sometimes. I have to remind myself that I am overreacting. I definately understand where you are coming from. I think it's just a mental think that we will have to overcome.
I wish you the best!

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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/26/2006 5:58:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WestWanderer

Well, I finally managed to pick myself up after a few hours. I want to thanky ou all for the advice too. That's why I really like collarme, most of the community is rexpectful and kind. Especially to a neophyte like me.

But now I have a new worrie, I haven't heard from her at all since then and there is still no answer, so now I have to whonder if she is okay. But Im probably worrying over nothing, it's the holidays after all.



If this is likely to be an ongoing feature of having her in your life, it might be an idea to try to decide whether you can realistically cope with it.

Why are you worrying about hurting her feelings? It appears that you are available and keeping to arrangements and she is not( for whatever reason).

It's not unreasonable to feel, let down/disappointed or insecure in a situation where plans are made and then dashed without a word. Lots of people would find that rather difficult to deal with happily, depression or no.

Is it beyond the realms of possibility for her to text you, call you or to  email you, even briefly, to avoid you waiting and hoping?   Would you be feeling slightly better if she had said, *I HOPE to meet on  Thursday/Friday/ WhateverDay, but it may not happen, so please don't rely on that*?.

I'm not quite sure why you are worrying about hurting her. Do you want to be in control of someone elses feelings?

Regards, agirl











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RE: Dealing with dissapointment - 12/26/2006 7:55:48 AM   
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I am so sorry you are going through this. It is difficult when one wishes to place her emotions in Another. The feeling of belonging, of safety, of acceptance, and of importance are needs many of us share, and when one begins to feel less of what one wishes to feel, it can be a definite drag.

It seems to me to express this to you: You must be as important to yourself in order to be of importance to Her. If you are not whole when you are not with Her, you have less to give than if you have your own complete life. Give Her your zest and excitement, give her your independence and self-confidence. It is a huge part, for me, of what the D/s relationship is about. I give because I choose to - it is a conscious effort. I do not give because I need to - for me it removes part of the joy.

To place such responsibility for one's happiness in the hands of Another is to effectively strip the Other's power: you take, She gives. Not a good balance in the exchange. Eventually, She will have nothing left but you will still need more. Therefore, if you give as much as She, the flow is constant, consistent, and ever-growing. (Think of a yard fountain that recycles the prettily upward-flowing water.) Good luck to you. ~smiling~

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