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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 8:06:54 PM   
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By the way "stef".

If you have it in for me why don't you just say so????

I don't have it in for anybody. Try not to be so paranoid.

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You post SLIME and VENOM..... denigrating me at every opportunity you get...following everywhere I post.

Don't flatter yourself, "dani." You just don't rate that kind of attention.

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 8:20:31 PM   
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Stupid roomate got the frisbee times wrong. Now I'm quite cross.

Firstly, I'm unaware of HI TECH being an explosive device. Can you name an explosive device that will make effects produced on 9-11 that isn't nice and large? Or do you just TALK IN CAPS WHEN YOU WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW SOMTHING.

I'll admit to not know much about aviation fuel. Generally I ride on planes, and that's about the extent of it. However, my question still stands, has any other building been exposed to the same situation?

I've seen pictures of bigfoot, and of poorly photo shopped evian water bottles by Mars Pathfinder. Just because you have a picture, does not mean it's proof, or facts. Doubly so given the sites of origin.

However, in the battle of websites;
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat."
While I'm loath to quote popular mechanics, it makes a lot of sense. The steel doesn't have to melt into a puddle of goo to collapse, it just as to weaken to the point where it can no longer hold the weight of the structure above it. I'm not a structural engineer, but it's a logical way to put it, and I'm sure someone with a bit more knowlege on the topic can back me up.

Also, the fire wouldn't have to have kept burning, it could have done it's damage, then mostly gone out, and the weight upon the weaked steal structure would have done the rest.

"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down.""

Again, quoteing the same source. That might explain the "woman" photo of yours, (if it's not faked) as the fire could have died down haveing done it's damage. As to your lovely little "spain=new york" photo, what was the fuel for the Spanish fire? What was in the building? it looks like the fire did most of it's damage on top and continued down from there, but since provideing details is too hard, I can't say much further.

I think you're the one avoiding the issue however. All you have is people with agendas, and some poorly put togther theories. I suppose you're one of the people convinced the pentagon was fake because there wasn't a plane shaped hole in the side, no? I'd be curious to see your thoughts and ideals prior to 9-11. I'm sure you were just as suspecious then, and now you just claim to be patriotic in your doubt as a bit of cya. You're already approaching the question with an answer. To you, you already "knew" it was a cover up.

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 8:21:48 PM   
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Don't flatter yourself, "dani." You just don't rate that kind of attention.


Good...than cut the BULL****, mind your own buisness and keep your negative comments about me to yourself.

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 8:24:44 PM   
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PM 9-11 whitewash debunked


http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5505

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 8:30:42 PM   
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If you're going to act like a kooky conspiracy theorist, you shouldn't be surprised (or upset) when you're treated like one.

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 8:32:40 PM   
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The WTC on 9-11


Enormous amounts of evidence contrary to media/governments "official" line...

http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=8b522b941f84862735f88500d4c74734

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 8:40:53 PM   
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If you're going to act like a kooky conspiracy theorist, you shouldn't be surprised (or upset) when you're treated like one.


The only "kooky conspiracy theory" is arab hijackers who "left their Koran in a nudie bar" and whom repeatedly flunked out of flight school,....bypassed NORAD and the most protected airspace in America with "hijacked jets" and flew them into several buildings "for Allah".

Now THATS funny.


A 6 year old with a double digit IQ could take the story apart.

Your comment speaks volumes about you "stef".

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 9:12:57 PM   
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Ok, the islamic terrorist types we're dealing with have shown a consistant willingness to off themselves, if it means they're taking a few dozen others with them. It's no stretch to think that they're willing to trade 20 for 3,000.

There were 14 USAF/USN/USMC figher aircraft able to take off and effect intercept on 9-11 FOR THE WHOLE COUNTRY. 4 of them were within range of DC and New York, and all of them either reiceved bum data (being sent after the planes that had already hit their targets) or working on unclear information (the Langley fighters were both scambled without any information on the threat they faced, thus they flew the flight pattern usually used for cruise missile threats, which was the SOP for that station). NORAD was tracking thousands of planes, all the while trying to find 4 (or more, several planes were falsely counted hijacked) airframes running with their transponders off.

The hijackers were strongly discouraged from continueing flight training because of A. shitty english skills in some cases B. lack of aptitude. They did elect to continue with flight training however, and one would assume from their slightly messy flight paths that this lack of aptitude showed, but then agian I'm not uncertain given a little time on a flight simulator I couldn't manage to fly into a large building.

I left my bible on my school bus back when I was alot more religous. Did that make me less religous? Haveing skimmed the background of some of the hijackers, not all of them were seen as pillars of Islamic faith. Some of them were known to drink, or do other non-Muslim activities. At that, if you're trying to blend in, which works better, acting like every other American, or haveing a huge beard, refuseing to look at women, and not touching booze?

You severely undervalue relgion. I'm sure you can think of some fundies who would glady explode themselves if they thought it was Jesus's will.

And haveing read your "debunkings," I broke out laughing. I can't believe I've been debateing you when you're just this dilluted. If anything you're the ones avoiding the issues, it's like you believe the goverment is incompetent and clumsy while at the same time cool, cold, and too smart for most people (save for of course the geniuses such as yourself and on random websites.)

I'm done here, I think I'll go do somthing more intelligent, like play pong or somthing. Mmm, pong.

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 9:22:00 PM   
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I just flat out disagree with just about everything you posted.

9-11 was a government sponsored hit. Just like OKC and 1993 WTC Bombing was, just like JFK was.

Don't let the door hit you in the fanny on the way out.

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 9:26:33 PM   
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speaking of fannies, I'm wearing freshly dried PJs, mmm, my butt has never felt better.

"9-11 was a government sponsored hit. Just like OKC and 1993 WTC Bombing was, just like JFK was."

I'm so sure. That his is the goverment that spelled my last name with u's on occasion has managed to wack thousands of it's own citzens for dubious, if any gain, while maintaining a shroud of secrecy so tight, that only random people who don't like the goverment ever find out.

If you're so smart why haven't they killed you all yet?

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 9:26:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sissyslave71

A 6 year old with a double digit IQ could take the story apart.

Yes, all those links you've provided are full of such amazing 'proof' that I don't know how the population could be so fooled by the story our government is trying to sell us. Are you going to join the crackpots that say the lunar landing footage was faked too?

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Your comment speaks volumes about you "stef".

You're absolutely correct. It says that I'm not a conspiracy theory nutjob.

BTW, Do you have a problem with my name, "dani?"

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 9:31:51 PM   
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Yes, all those links you've provided are full of such amazing 'proof' that I don't know how the population could be so fooled by the story our government is trying to sell us.


Well I certainly DON't buy all the Crap coming from FAUX (fox) news or Lush (rush) Bimbo.

Oh you want even MORE links?

Heck..this is going to be FUN!!!


OH boy oh boy oh boy!!!!!

At the same time..WHY BOTHER?

Even if you DID attempt to wade through all the links i'm going to provide...you are still convinced...

"That them thar damn towelhad a-rabs done it!!!

I know it won't change your mind. Its effectively shut by MASSIVE amounts of propaganda.

Better wake up Neo.



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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 9:36:31 PM   
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conspiracy theory nutjob.


More namecalling, slime and venom from stefi.

Obviously...calling people names is about as far as he/she? goes in terms of debate.

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/3/2005 9:54:11 PM   
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I am insulted at the fact that somehow, I become a racist because I refuse to buy into your nutjob view of the world. If anything my studies have given me a greater apprication of why they're just that pissed off at us.

You're propgandized yourself. If anything we're just the mirror of each other, both entrenched with our own weapons each convinced of our own correct nature.

Thus, I'll go back to being angry about not playing frisbee, and reveling in my freshly washed sheets.

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RE: Hunter Thompson suicide - 3/4/2005 4:23:32 AM   
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Thompson was an interesting person and a great writer. His books made me feel sane during my most insane moments. I read his book On the campaign trail '72 when I was 16... made me realize just how messed up the world could be.
His suicide was tragic but somehow understandible. Thompson pointed out the hypocracy and vileness of everyday American life, and regardless of the hardass, vileness-embracing persona he created for himself, had to be affected by his observations. Suicide is the result of character weakness, but it is an almost justifiable one for someone so in touch with humans inhumanity.
Viva la Thompson!!!... at least in our souls

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This is no longer about Hunter S. Thompson's suicide - 3/4/2005 5:41:35 AM   
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Well I certainly DON't buy all the Crap coming from FAUX (fox) news or Lush (rush) Bimbo.

And you assume I do? Sorry. I don't watch Fox News or listen to Rush Windbag.

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Oh you want even MORE links?

Heck..this is going to be FUN!!!

OH boy oh boy oh boy!!!!!

At the same time..WHY BOTHER?

Even if you DID attempt to wade through all the links i'm going to provide...you are still convinced...

"That them thar damn towelhad a-rabs done it!!!

I know it won't change your mind. Its effectively shut by MASSIVE amounts of propaganda.

Better wake up Neo.

You have no idea what my beliefs on the matter are, since I've never mentioned them. Don't let the truth get in the way of your little tirade though, please continue!

If you think that being swayed by unfounded theories based on wild supposition, junk science, doctored photos, frothing rhetoric and a pretty website is having an open mind, you're only deluding yourself. To borrow a phrase from your earlier post on the matter, you're just following different sheep off of a different cliff. How is that any better that what you're accusing others of?

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More namecalling, slime and venom from stefi.

Obviously...calling people names is about as far as he/she? goes in terms of debate.

Awww, I'm crushed. You called me 'he.' I think I'll go cry now. Is this were I should rant about you "dogging transsexuals?"

Who said I was interested in debating you? Do you really believe that posting link after link then hopping up and down and screeching "the gummint done be lyin' to us" is debate? Please.

Besided, I don't debate kooks

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RE: This is no longer about Hunter S. Thompson's suicide - 3/4/2005 5:59:02 AM   
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why don't you guys just chill out and stop bickering. I know you have every right to and stuff but what joy does it bring you?

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