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Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 10:39:19 AM

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I was curious if straight men ever become subs to male masters. If so how does it work?

I met a domme who told me that as punishment she sold her disobedient male slave to a master. Just wondering about the truth of this?

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 10:41:59 AM

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I imagine you can find just about every combination under the sun, somewhere.

If someone can imagine it.... then someone has done it. But I do not think you'd find your particular scenario happening too often.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 10:51:23 AM

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Take away the idea of sexual orientation and that is how it works. My sub is as straight as an arrow but will gladly taking a beating from a Dom but thats cause he's a pain slut, he doesn't care who weilds the whip so long as it falls on his back.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 10:51:33 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tslaveboy

I was curious if straight men ever become subs to male masters. If so how does it work?

I met a domme who told me that as punishment she sold her disobedient male slave to a master. Just wondering about the truth of this?

Great question, I would think NOT, but I could be wrong.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 10:51:47 AM

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Yes, it does happen, service is service.

Now considering the part of being "sold off", just remember what we have is consensual slavery, if she wants to sell you and you don't wanna your always free to walk.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 11:07:08 AM

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quote:

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I was curious if straight men ever become subs to male masters. If so how does it work?

I met a domme who told me that as punishment she sold her disobedient male slave to a master. Just wondering about the truth of this?

This reminds me of a time when my ex told me she wished slavery was legal, and in fact wished all women were slaves. My hunch is that was her answer to having trouble adjusting to being different from the average woman, but it's interesting just the same to hear such a thing.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 11:12:03 AM

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With this all being consentual, i have a feeling selling a disobedient slave to aMaster would not be a scenario that would likely work for long.
However, I know that I have had straight female subs before, and Dom friends of mine have had straight male subs. They were not sexually invovled with us, they were service subs who prefered to serve someone where the idea of sex wouldnt be brought up. They considered it a more "pure service", since there was no question of whether they were doing their duties to gain a sexual reward.

Just sharing personal experience
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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 11:37:34 AM

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Take away the idea of sexual orientation and that is how it works. My sub is as straight as an arrow but will gladly taking a beating from a Dom but thats cause he's a pain slut, he doesn't care who weilds the whip so long as it falls on his back.

I totally under that service is service.
Many people play games with semantics online.
I also understand that a lot of BDSM has sexual undertones
and involves physical contact with genitals.
Sure service is service, he can come over clean get a whipping and leave.
When you get into a lot of physical contact that involves the
genitals, I don't consider that "straight" activity.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 11:57:03 AM

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By that logic you would have to say a male doctor that examines a male patient cant be straight.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 12:02:32 PM

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When a sub is working for me in a non-sexual service based capacity, I have abslutely no contact with their genitals. Male or female, they remain clothed and do as they are told. The closest they might come to contact would be if I smack them on the ass for something.

Most BDSM does have sexual undertones, but it is very possible not to. I have had more than one submissive friend who simply cleaned my home, or washed my car, did my nails and things like that with no expectation of anything sexual. They enjoyed serving and I allowed them to do so. Its a far smaler population into that sort of service than there is that want or expect sex along wth it, but it is out there.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 12:10:49 PM

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By that logic you would have to say a male doctor that examines a male patient cant be straight.

Are you comparing medical exams to S/m now?
I am missing something here.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 12:30:43 PM

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You're assuming there's always sex in a Master/slave relationship...or at least your Mistress is. Perhaps she's threatening to send you to him so that you know there won't be sex...or she's using homophobia to punish you because you're worried that there will be.

But yes, differnt sexual orientations come together for Ms relationships all the time. I can think of one of each example.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 3:47:20 PM

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Dear Tslaveboy, Ladies and Gentlemen;

My first slave was a closet Gay man in the military, into the Gay Leather culture. He had no problem in begging for a collar of mine and we were together for nine years. We didn't have a "sex" relationship but a sexual/sensual one. We added another closeted Gay Leather man into our relationship, to which he did not have any problems in begging my collar. Our lives were discrete and maintained our dynamic very nicely. The two lads had their sexual exchanges with each other while I delighted witnessing their love.

I have had brief periods where Gay Masters turned their Gay slaves over to me. They know what I am about and are absolutely comfortable with me, as I don't cross boundaries and enjoy high protocols. Some who are 'female' phobic in the Gay Leather ranks are assigned to me if their Masters want to make a point, to get their jollies off the experiences and such. Frankly, I would do the same, as to show that slaves aren't 'all' about sex--but, the entire package, which is mainly service and pleasing in that way.

Another thing I wish to add. Blindfolded, the slaves do not know the 'sex' behind the whip skills and or caning. They enjoy the sensations and that is what makes the entire 'scene' wonderful. At times I hit harder then the men.

Also, my Gay Master friends and others--we've never used 'sex' as a weapon against the slave. But, we will expose the slave to the fact that Masters regardless of gender and or race, may give lessons in many things independent of sex itself but, growth in sensuality and or sense of self.

Any slave of mine, will have to be use to serving my friends, regardless if straight women, Lesbians, Gay men and or Bi-sexual men and women. I look beyond sexual preference and enjoy the total person.

Just some thoughts.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/24/2006 5:29:33 PM

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I've seen straight men submit to any and all kinds of people. Pairings I have seen include:
Straight man Straight woman
Straight man Bi woman
Straight man Bi man
Straight man Gay man
Straight man Gay woman
Straight man Transgender M to F
Straigh man Transgender F to M

They all happen

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/25/2006 4:25:51 AM

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I personally don't see a problem with straight men serving Masters or straight women serving Mistresses.
BDSM and sex are two different things, and while they are very nice together that is not a must.

Still, what it all boils down to is personal prefrence, and if you really don't feel comfortable/can handle being in service to a person of you own sex, sit down and talk it through with your dominant.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/25/2006 10:44:05 AM

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Anything can, and does, happen.
I'm straight and have had girl subs. Hell, I'll beat anyone or let them clean my house.
I don't have any sexual contact with my current partners, one of whom is married (yes she knows and is part of it).
I don't see the problem.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/25/2006 12:06:23 PM

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I accept straight men if they bring a gorgeous wife or girlfriend...

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/25/2006 1:00:20 PM

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This reminds me of a time when my ex told me she wished slavery was legal, and in fact wished all women were slaves. My hunch is that was her answer to having trouble adjusting to being different from the average woman, but it's interesting just the same to hear such a thing.

Sounded pretty darn scary to me!!!!

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/26/2006 12:53:26 AM

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Wouldn't work for me. I don't feel submissive in any way, shape or form to another man. Even in a relationship with a woman where there is no "sex" involved, there's still sexuality and the desire to be in service to a woman. That's not to say it doesn't work for other people.

I just find it interesting that there's this "it's either about sex or it isn't" attitude. For me, it's always about servitude, but to a woman. It's a gender thing, and that, in essence, is about sex even if it doesn't involve sexual content. By the same token, if my service to her is not bringing her pleasure and satisfaction on some emotional level, then I really don't want to be serving her in the long run. This is why I usually stop looking for a partner. There's this "it's either about sex or it's not" premise in so many altercations that I wonder what ever happened to the middle ground on this concept. Very rarely have I found someone searching for the same thing that I am. Everyone seems to be so stuck in mud these days with definitions that no human can actually achieve or the definitions are so generic that anyone can achieve it and there's no speciality surrounding the intimacy.

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RE: Do straight men sub to masters? - 12/26/2006 3:52:53 AM

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I was curious if straight men ever become subs to male masters. If so how does it work?

In this house they do.

Scooter is as straight as they come but any male who comes here for Jewel and accepts a collar will be collared to both much as i am.

He will not be expected to serve Scooter sexually or to perform body services for him (bathing, putting on his slippers etc) but he will still be expected to serve in normal day to to day fashion.

The male subbie would also be expected to obey Scooter as well as Jewel and while i do not see it happening the possibility exists of the male finding Scooter at the end of a flogger as well.

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