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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 4:25:32 PM   
backseatbebe


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Status: offline 		why should it be my interpertaintion its not my question
i think wanderlusty (the threads maker) should answer that question

since she is the one looking for answers

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 4:29:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Because those that can say "it isn't" are quickly called to the carpet on what then "it really is" that is how a discussion works. was that a trick question or do you not have an answer?

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 4:34:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BDSM05478
and if that is a submissive in your area than it is a different world than my own as subs have things like "limits" and "safe words" which imho are not in what falls as "slavery". subs are usually only pain sluts, and dabble in the bedroom aspects of wiitwd wheres anyone that claims to be a slave I would give them the credit of being 24/7 cause it is not just a roll that can be shed when the going gets rough or don't what to do as requested. subs can say "no thanks" not so for any claiming to be a slave.


since when could submissives say no thanks?!

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 4:36:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: backseatbebe

quote:

ORIGINAL: BDSM05478
and if that is a submissive in your area than it is a different world than my own as subs have things like "limits" and "safe words" which imho are not in what falls as "slavery". subs are usually only pain sluts, and dabble in the bedroom aspects of wiitwd wheres anyone that claims to be a slave I would give them the credit of being 24/7 cause it is not just a roll that can be shed when the going gets rough or don't what to do as requested. subs can say "no thanks" not so for any claiming to be a slave.


since when could submissives say no thanks?!


As long as I have been aware of wiitwd so 95-96.....maybe it was different in the "old Gaurd" days..... but I was still tieing up my barbies back then.

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 5:26:54 PM   
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truthfully it makes me sad when i read their slavery looks like a 90% vanilla lifestyle

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  no more because i think a SLAVE should be living more than 10% in a bdsm lifestyle
the question was about 24/7 slavery, yet everyone is more like 2/7


I would like to point out that My question came about from YOU speaking these words. So, I will ask once again. Please grace us with your OWN interpretation of what 24/7 slavery actually is. If you do not know the answer, then please, just say "I can not answer that"; otherwise, be a mature adult and back up the words that you have spoken.

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 5:56:48 PM   
backseatbebe


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i shouldnt have to grace you with my interpretation just because you ask nicely
(especially since my quote also states what i think a part of being a slave is, living more than 10% in a bdsm lifestyle. and on top of it already used a link that i think properly portrays how i see a slave "aslaveslife")
did you stop to think, perhaps there are reasons why i dont want to share my interpretation with you

anyways the 24/7 part is easily defined, 24 hours 7 days a week
no grey area there, which would be 100% of the time
so a 90% vanilla life is definatly not 24/7

as for slave that is subjective to each person
but for myself, i know what it is NOT
and a NOT is labelling themselves "slaves" but living a submissives life

its silly this topic has gotten so off topic
the woman is asking for help
and we are dicussing what the defition of a slave is
when its not up for us to decide, its up to the author of this thread

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 6:23:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: backseatbebe

since when could submissives say no thanks?!


I've been saying 'no thanks' for the past 24 years  - is this where i've been going wrong?

*Runs off to check her big book of submission

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 6:38:23 PM   
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Slave: a person held in servitute as chattel of another. This is the definition of slave that I use. If you call yourself a slave yet apply any conflicting definition to the word, then forgive me but I will never under any circumstances consider you a slave. What I will consider you is confused, self deluded, or incapable of reading a dictionary. To pretend to be a slave outside of these parameters is play-acting. To claim that BDSM has a different definition of slavery than this is both play-acting and dishonest.Now a little about the house my slave occupies: My slave has no safeword. What I inflict upon her ends when I choose, not her. My slave has no freedom. She is kept in locked cuffs and chains. My slave has no privacy. The bathroom door is left open while she is using it. My slave has no rights or privileges other than what few liberties I grant her. My slave knows that any privileges I give can also be retracted. My slave has the ability to refuse to serve. She also knows that she will be punished severely for it. My slave is not an automation. She is high spirited, affectionate, and opinionated. My slave entered into this willingly, knowing that once she was collared, her freedom of choice ended.


Not sure whether it's allowed to post quotes from someone's journal - feel free to remove it if so. This is from the profile that backseatbebe linked (aslaveslife).

Here is a link to another site I found: http://www.rlslavery.com/

I wouldn't make a good slave, according to those!

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 6:48:48 PM   
hisannabelle


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Status: offline 		i would have to disagree with the assertion that a 24/7 relationship LOOKING like a vanilla relationship 90% of the time means that it must actually BE a vanilla relationship 90% of the time, or that the fact that it looks like a vanilla relationship 90% of the time means it's not a 24/7 tpe.

s&m and sex probably only come into play for us 10-20% of the time. however, i am his slave because i do as he wishes. if he wishes that that be that we carry on with school and work and kids, but still talk, exchange emails, and see each other for dating/play/time together when we can, then that's what i'll do. the day he decides that he wants me to move in, quit school, and do housework and be constantly ready for heavy play sessions, i'll do that. to me, it's not one to the exclusion of another. i am a slave - it's who i am. i am his slave because we're in a relationship together. d/s is the basis of our relationship; he has absolute control over my life - the fact that he does not choose to overtly exercise that control all day, every day doesn't mean that it isn't there. the thing that makes it 24/7 is that it's his choice, not mine. i can't walk away (well, legally and theoretically, i can, but i choose not to). i can't back out if he makes a decision i don't like. i can't get away without calling or seeing him or sending emails when i'm supposed to, or doing the other things that i am supposed to. he has the power in the relationship, regardless of whether he chooses to overtly express that power.

i have no problem with the idea that being a slave is being chattel to another. i am his chattel. the fact that he decides he wishes to treat me better than an animal, or give me choices, or let me make decisions, is something that i take as a gift, not for granted. he can take that away anytime he wishes. he owns me - mind, body, and soul. the fact that i'm not left naked and tied up all the time doesn't make that any less.

edited to add: i should probably say that i use the words slave and submissive interchangeably with reference to myself. i fall under what most people here, i think, would define as a slave, and that is how i see myself, but he uses the term submissive when speaking about wiitwd with me (as he doesn't really get caught up on terms like sub and slave and their nuances, and i think slave may have negative connotations to him). just thought i would mention this to clear up any confusion about my own situation.


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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 6:58:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: backseatbebe
since when could submissives say no thanks?!

Since their masters told them they can and should.

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 7:13:23 PM   
Daddysfavoritpet


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Status: offline 		it is so easy to sit in judgement from your perch.  10% for one is 100% for another.  there are so many ways to show your submission and servitude to your Master that the vanilla world would only see as courtious, doting, kind, considerate and even loving.  while the children are present make sure to keep his beverage always filled, antisipate his needs and do them before even being asked, serve him first at dinner, after all he is the head of the house hold.  when your finished with the dishes sit at his feet while you talk and watch tv.  the children would be none the wiser.  they would see how much you love each other as you talk he strokes your hair ( or tugs at a random strand playfully )  not everything in the D/s world has to scream SLAVE to know your place and show him with little actions daily..... just idle thoughts of a happy pet

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/26/2006 9:32:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wanderlusty

I am interested in learning about the characteristics, details, mundaneities, duties, reponsibilities, rewards, pleasures, pains in 24/7 slavery. How did you set up the relationship? Was there a contract? If you are married to your master, how does it work with regard to your marriage? Are any of these kind of like the old fashioned little housewife at home kind of things?

Tell me all!


my recommendation: Look deeply into your own heart. There you'll find the characteristics of the only slave you can be - you. The details, mundaneities, duties, reponsibilities, rewards, pleasures, pains in 24/7 slavery are all what your Master and you agree upon, as well as how you experience yourself and each O/other.
 
Life is life, containing all the things it contains. Anything done in an M/s relationship can be perceived by an outsider the same way any relationship can - according to the perceiver's viewpoint. For me M/s is about attitude and commitment. The more i attempt to define what anything is, the more confused i get. For me being His slave is simple - just love Him completely without reserve,  hold nothing back that will benefit Him, reveal myself to Him totally so that He knows deeply what it is He owns and accept His will as my Law. Obey Him, obey Him, obey Him.

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/27/2006 3:53:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

90% it would look from an external observer perspective just like any other vanilla relationship out there.


Gosh, to an outside observer... aside from the fact that there are three of us instead of just the Master/Mistress and slave thing... this is on the money. On a day to day basis our lives are pretty boring... twicehappy does the cooking, cleaning, laundry... all the little stuff that needs to be done all the time to keep a home running smoothly. And it looks boring as all hell. But it isn't what you see on the outside that counts, it's what's going on emotionally. She knows in her heart why she is doing what she does and she loves it. Would the casual observer pick up on it? I doubt it... at least 90% of the time... but that doesn't mean it isn't still happening under the surface. It isn't sad backseatbebe, it just isn't "in your face" all the time.
 
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im just saying how easy it is for people to call themselves a slave, but the majority of their life is vanilla

what part of 24/7 did i misunderstand? 24/7 means 24 hours 7 days a week......yet somehow when the kids are around, or when we go to work, or when we have to explain it to family 24/7 becomes irrelevant.

 
The majority of most peoples lives ARE vanilla... there is simple shit that needs to be done on a daily basis that has absolutely nothing to do with ANY lifestyle at all... we call it living. It's no different then a married couple... just because they weren't joined at the hip during the wedding ceremony doesn't mean they aren't "24/7". Just because at first glance you couldn't say whether or not someone is married doesn't mean anything... it's what you can't see, it's what is in their heart, that counts.
 
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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/27/2006 4:30:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Wanderlusty
I am interested in learning about the characteristics, details, mundaneities, duties, reponsibilities, rewards, pleasures, pains in 24/7 slavery.


this slave would encourage you to research as wide a variety of resources as you possibly can, and take NO-ONE's definition as some sort of gospel, merely a testament to their own experience.

quote:

How did you set up the relationship? Was there a contract?


we communicated a LOT about a variety of topics and found we shared more than a few goals and interests.  we spent enough quality time together to know we wanted more, which led to a contract and we have just recently married.

quote:

 If you are married to your master, how does it work with regard to your marriage?


this slave was and is, Master's slave, first and foremost.  marriage offers certain legal and financial protections, but does not change the way "it" works.

quote:

Are any of these kind of like the old fashioned little housewife at home kind of things?


if the old fashioned little housewife at home spent the day doing as the husband instructed, was under no social or marital pressure to ever produce a child, or interact socially with the neighbors, spoke and dressed in a manner of His choosing, not what was deemed socially or morally acceptable and didn't give a damn what anyone else thought about it all except Him...perhaps this slave can say at least one of these is.

as limited as this slave's knowledge is of all the other folks in the world's opinions, including slaves, out there, she couldn't begin to guess as to what percentage vanilla anyone would consider our relationship or what percentage vanilla another's relationship might appear, or is, or whatever...nor does she care.

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/27/2006 5:00:49 AM   
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Essencially he is at my beck and call all the time. Of course he is allowed to often do what he pleases, but I interrupt it as I see fit and my random needs are his priority.

I tend to choose the majority of what we want to do, but its on sort of an at-my-will basis. Sometimes my will says to micromanage (almost never) sometimes my will says decide for yourself.

He does most of the chores and I do most of the managment of things. I organize the home, I cook, I decide what tasks he must do. I make sure he is up with his job responsibilities, school work, etc. I make sure he is on top of his personal life things, family birthdays and such. He runs my baths, does dishes everday, runs small errands, does our laundry, and is responsible for keeping himself on task, our cats fed in the morning and their litter box done among other things.

The major benefits to him are that he has me around a lot and since he loves me and loves to be around me, he enjoys that a lot additionally we can play whenever I desire or desire to grant requests of his. It makes for a VERY spontaneous sex life. But also since we live together we have time to do a lot more fun "vanilla" things. Movies, cuddling, going out, hanging with friends together. Couple stuff.

His most major sacrifice is probably the fact that he is SO much at my beck and call. He has to make my desires a constant priority. And even though he has plenty of his own time, its still affected by me. Additionally when I am away visiting family or my other slave or friends for large chunks of time he says he tends to feel a little lost without me.

A major benefit is the very organization minded stuff I do. He doesn't have to worry about setting up the household, doing grocery shopping, keeping us on task in our lives, planning major events or doing anything major without my input, which he trusts and respects. I also do a lot of his personal grooming and decide what he should wear (but now he tends to know what I like best) how he should smell etc. So he definitely feels intimately cared for on a daily basis.

Since I am polyamorous my time is somewhat devided so he must also deal with that.

We have no contract but he does have rules. From the mundane like Don't Bite Your Fingernails to No Masturbating. Since its a TPE based relationship its very much a What I Say Goes situation. Of course I value his input but at the end of the day I am the one who decides things.

For me personally the 24/7 aspect of it is ideal. I greatly miss my other slave who lives away and miss a lot of the pleasant little "vanilla" time spent with him. The service and the quality time are the best perks to me. And the sex.

The 24/7 dynamic occurred mostly because of conveniance. I lived half way across the country so I moved in with him on a trial basis after a couple LONG visits of him coming to me. And the trial worked out so we stayed together and are happily still living together.

There is as much strain in our relationship as many couples who live together, the same sort of issues with family, money, schedules and joined lives occur. And the added intensity of the BDSM aspect adds to it, but it also takes away from it since many couples would argue and struggle when it can end between us with a sharp word from me and then a long talk when our heads are more cooled.

I know that it isn't what everyone desires, and many slaves are nervous about it, but while the BDSM is the foundation for our dynamic, love is at its core, and its built on respect and filled in with communication and respect. Its not like a constant stream of BDSM, its just life.



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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/27/2006 8:03:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is different for everyone. I have never had a contract. There are tasks involved everyday to do. People think everyday its whippings and spankings, its not. When both work and have kids to take care of, those take precedence. Obedience is a must or it cannot work.

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/27/2006 8:37:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just wanna know is this going to turn into a sub versus slave thread? Which could evolve into one-o-dem ebil dictionary type war of words. OR, it could do a total 180 and end up a fat sub/slave versus skinny sub/slave thread.....

Acourse it could get really kinky and be a sub versus slave, fat versus skinny, ebil of smoking, good dom/me versus bad dom/me, online isn't really real and true, (help me people I am forgetting some of the best, I just know it) one true way sorta deal.

I that case we need to put everything on hold till benji gets back from vacation so he can piss on all the flames and get spanked by Eleven. Whatcha say??


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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/27/2006 9:02:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		24/7 slavery is like that What I did on my summer vacation bit by Cheech and Chong, with some interesting interludes time to time.

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/27/2006 9:29:51 AM   
SlaveAkasha


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Status: offline 		Without reading the other responses, I will only write what comes to my mind everytime I read this question from different people.  It reminds me of that movie "Beetlejuice"
 
Barbara asks Adam... "Is this what happens when you die?"
 
Then the receptionist answers..."That is what happens when you die, that is what happens when he dies, and that is what happens when they die.  It's all very personal."
 
That's the best way to put it.  It's personal for each person, and not one is right and the other wrong.  We could tell you a million different ways it could be and the way it happens for you will probably still not match up with the others totally.
 
That's the best answer I can give, not sure that it helps at all.
 
Kashsa
 


 

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RE: What is 24/7 slavery like? - 12/27/2006 11:48:32 AM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Acourse it could get really kinky and be a sub versus slave, fat versus skinny, ebil of smoking, good dom/me versus bad dom/me, online isn't really real and true, (help me people I am forgetting some of the best, I just know it) one true way sorta deal.

How 'bout fat, smoking, online sub vs. skinny, vegetarian r/l slave?  Put 'em in a mud pit and watch 'em duke it out....

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