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boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 1:10:27 AM

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I have a fetish for leather boots and have an overwhelming desire to be used as a doormat. I desire to lick the soles of boots actually worn socially. My fantasy is to be the doormat for a femdom party and get my tongue and face blackened from ground in grime. Is there any enjoyment from this from the dominant perspective? Would most femdoms have any qualms about wiping their boots on a submissive male tongue?

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 3:39:36 AM

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I have a fetish for leather boots and have an overwhelming desire to be used as a doormat. I desire to lick the soles of boots actually worn socially. My fantasy is to be the doormat for a femdom party and get my tongue and face blackened from ground in grime. Is there any enjoyment from this from the dominant perspective? Would most femdoms have any qualms about wiping their boots on a submissive male tongue?

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 8:48:08 AM

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I have a fetish for leather boots and have an overwhelming desire to be used as a doormat. I desire to lick the soles of boots actually worn socially. My fantasy is to be the doormat for a femdom party and get my tongue and face blackened from ground in grime. Is there any enjoyment from this from the dominant perspective? Would most femdoms have any qualms about wiping their boots on a submissive male tongue?

Actually, if I cared about the submissive at all, I would have some qualms about wiping the soles of boots I had worn outside on a submissive male tongue, let alone having a whole Femdom party do so. If a submissive I owned asked to be used in this fashion, I would tell him no. There is no telling what could be on the soles of boots worn outside. People inadvertantly step into dog crap, other people's spit, and who knows what else.

To answer your other question, yes, I derive a great deal of enjoyment from having My boots licked, including the sole. I actually keep a pair of boots that I use specifically for this purpose. They are never worn outdoors and are sanitized after use.

This is My way of compromising so that I get to enjoy the activity without subjecting the submissive to a plethora of unknown health risks. I realize that it is not as humiliating for the submissive as licking a pair of filthy soles (or the filthy soles of a whole party of Women), but if I care about him at all (and he would not have been invited to play in My home if I didn't), I can relax and enjoy it.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 9:52:00 AM

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Actually, if I cared about the submissive at all, I would have some qualms about wiping the soles of boots I had worn outside on a submissive male tongue, let alone having a whole Femdom party do so. If a submissive I owned asked to be used in this fashion, I would tell him no. There is no telling what could be on the soles of boots worn outside. People inadvertantly step into dog crap, other people's spit, and who knows what else.

To answer your other question, yes, I derive a great deal of enjoyment from having My boots licked, including the sole. I actually keep a pair of boots that I use specifically for this purpose. They are never worn outdoors and are sanitized after use.

I think that's very SSC responsible of you and shows a common sense attitude/sensibility along with a sensitivity toward what is appropriate to expect of submissives you play with.

While I definitely have a foot fetish, I've never understood the appeal of licking the soles of shoes and boots, prefering the sensuality of making contact with the actual foot of the woman I serve. Perhaps that's also part of the difference for me in that I have no desire to touch the feet of a room full of women that I don't know or have no emotional connection with even though I might appreciate the look of a particular pair of footware.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 10:50:09 AM

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I would like to agree with Lady Topaz on not subjecting someone to the health hazards that would be associated with licking the actual soles of footwear that had been worn outside or to require a submissive to service the footwear of many Ladies at a gathering. I find that I do enjoy having a submissive lick my boots and shoes AND feet though. It is very sensual to feel their tongue through the leather and the heat of their breath not to mention watching them as they enjoy this type of service.

I never really understood the fetish of boot blacking and licking until I attended a demo. There is something very Zen-like in focusing on this activity. There is a great deal of pride and self saisfaction in taking care of leather, especially in bringing new life to a scuffed up pair of boots. They say you can tell a great deal about a person by the way they care for their leathers, but I digress.....

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 10:56:48 AM

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Many of Us enjoy the intensity of a male who truly craves to worship Our footwear. Speaking from nearly 30yrs experience in the fetish scene, I actively seek out guys with boot fetishes, high heel fetishes and also those who desire trample, kicking and equestrian treatment from a Domme. I like to have a guy buy a pair of boots or pumps that he's particularly attracted to and I preserve those shoes for him. As others have stated, it's never the best idea to cross-polinate the soles of a pair of shoes with the saliva of other submissives. I do know some who find the illusion of being under the soles of shoes that have walked in filth and by htat making him less than the street filth that the Domme has walked in. I have allowed my subs to worship the soles of shoes I've worn in the street completely without adverse impact to his health. Hell, if he could live after lying under My spiked heels, a little dirt won't kill him.
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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 2:13:22 PM

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There are probably safe substances one could put on the soles of a shoe and then it would be a mindfuck to help the sub believe they are licking off dirt. When someone is blindfolded it is probably harder to tell.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 5:08:58 PM

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It's about the humiliation. It's like trying to understand b/s if you're not into it or financial domination. We're all wired somewhat differently.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 5:14:05 PM

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You understand completely, though for me it's not specifically about the filth itself. It's more being objectified as a doormat. Maybe there's grime, maybe there isn't. Would you think that saliva and other germs/bacteria have something of a shelf life? That they would die on a dry surface if not kept moist? Hands are supposed to actually be really germy.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 5:37:42 PM

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Thanks for your response. The "party" aspect is really the equivalent of humiliation overload. My only experience is with pros. When trying this, I would get obvious dungeon boots and it did nothing for me. Especially because of their generic appearance. However, I once saw a pro who looked offhandedly at her boots and remarked, "hmm, these are kind of grimy." I didn't expect her to go through with it but I was wrong. The humiliation was amazing as I internalized that I really was cleaning her boots. They weren't purposely disgusting, just naturally worn. My tongue and upper lip were actually blackened. I was scrubbing my tongue with soap after the session and noticed how dark my upper lip was. I thought to myself, "I know I shaved today." I realized it was grime and scrubbed it off. Part of the turn on was that she really couldn't care less. After the session as I was leaving I remarked, "you actually gave me a mustache." Her response was, "What do you expect when you lick someone's footwear?" You just can't argue with that. The humiliation was incredible. This was two years ago, but I'm getting the urge again. Other sessions had other elements I enjoy, but occasionally I just want this one blast of humiliation that not everyone gives. My latest thought is to do a session where she uses me for three pairs of boots. Overload. Also, I enjoy a "forced" element. Last time it was with a rope around my balls. This time I want her to utilize a "humbler."

You and others bring up great points. Do I really know what I'm getting into? No, but it can't be worse than a brown or roman shower where the germs haven't had any chance to die whatsoever. I really welcome any comments on this, especially from anyone with scientific knowledge or similar play experience and thank you to everyone who has responded already.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 8:49:05 PM

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This is like a "hi how are you" level of interaction with me.

I thrive on humiliation and I expect my boots and shoes "done." I don't happen to have a ready and willing bunch of friends who feel* exactly* the same whom I can call up on a moment's notice in order to make you happy. That's the difference between pro and non, generally - this takes planning to a level that takes it out of "about me" to "about us" if not really "about you."

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/25/2006 11:46:06 PM

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That is an interesting perspective. I do understand the fantasy aspect of "willing bunch of friends." Perhaps if it occurred at SM club/event, thenn it wouldn't be so much an issue of planning and would be about "us." So that brings me back to the question of whether there's women, who themselves, really enjoy that type play; as opposed to just satisfying a humiliation fantasy. You are a bit cynical. In all honesty, however, I'm not submissive and never claim to be. I'm into "forced" submission. It's about the PLAY to me, not the lifestyle.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/26/2006 5:36:27 PM

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I will confess that I do enjoy this type of play. It is not as much about humiliation as about service. I also enjoy trampling my slave. It is play and I laugh as he grunts but I know he loves it.

I do not think I could ever share my slave and watch him lick the dirty boots of my friends, because it would change my perception of him. Since you (apparently) do not have a problem with how others view you.. you should revel in your fetish. good luck.

That is an interesting perspective. I do understand the fantasy aspect of "willing bunch of friends." Perhaps if it occurred at SM club/event, thenn it wouldn't be so much an issue of planning and would be about "us." So that brings me back to the question of whether there's women, who themselves, really enjoy that type play; as opposed to just satisfying a humiliation fantasy. You are a bit cynical. In all honesty, however, I'm not submissive and never claim to be. I'm into "forced" submission. It's about the PLAY to me, not the lifestyle.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/26/2006 6:57:41 PM

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That is an interesting perspective. I do understand the fantasy aspect of "willing bunch of friends." Perhaps if it occurred at SM club/event, thenn it wouldn't be so much an issue of planning and would be about "us." So that brings me back to the question of whether there's women, who themselves, really enjoy that type play; as opposed to just satisfying a humiliation fantasy. You are a bit cynical. In all honesty, however, I'm not submissive and never claim to be. I'm into "forced" submission. It's about the PLAY to me, not the lifestyle.

I'm not necessarily into living this way all the time, but I'm not into play that doesn't reinforce power dynamics in some way. Even if it's an activity I love.

My cynicism comes from having been pro for a while and really disinterested at this juncture in lots of mutuality and elaborate agreement which serves the other party more than it serves me. I would also humbly suggest that assuming there aren't women who share your fetish genuinely is a little cynical too, no?

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/26/2006 8:03:11 PM

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Thanks for your response. It's not really a question of how I feel others view me. This fantasy involves strangers I would likely never see again. Or under the same type circumstances. It's not like it would be a family reunion. Believe me, I know it's a disgusting fetish but the humiliation is mindblowing. Also, I think I watch too many damn videos. :-) I can see it's a totally different thing within the context of "lifestyle" and I think it's great that you, and others here, show your concern for your sub. There is quite a variance regarding concern when it comes to pros. You ante up and they'll often gladly turn it into Fear Factor, no questions asked. My favorite pros combine eroticism, pain, humiliation and ultimately show concern for me. Like rubbing my wrists where I was bound to bring back circulation. They are very few and far between and not the ones I'd approach for raunch. It's only about money and then getting rid of you until you have more.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/26/2006 8:17:01 PM

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I didn't assume anything. I didn't know, so I asked. The mutuality as a pro didn't serve the other party more than you. It put cash in your pocket, the main reason for being a pro. At least your smart enough to see that being pro limits your authority. It's amazing how many pros want "lifestyle" dynamics. It doesn't make sense.

<p>I would like to try a lifestyle situation. I'm curious about true submission. I'm not real demanding nor needy.

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/27/2006 7:51:00 AM

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I do not think it is a disgusting fetish. I have made my slave lick the soles of my boots before after getting them dirty in the mud. He cleans all my footwear after I wear them. And before anyone tells me how nasty that is, I would like to remind them that their computers, doorknobs, toilet seats and cell phones have more bacteria on them than the mud on my boots. I watch where I walk (avoiding shit). Yard dirt is really not so bad. Many unmentionables eats gobs of it and survive to live for years.

I DO think you watch too many videos. Come back to reality, boy.

As I say.. good luck.. if you ever get your "fantasy" it very well may end up biting you in the ass..

This fantasy is something that you are obviously ashamed of, yet you claim you don't care how others view you, if you do it.. tsk tsk.. I know there is someone in your life you would not want to see you do such a thing. Your fantasy has a potential to take you into dangerous territory, imho. If you do not know who you play with, how can you trust them?

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/28/2006 11:22:14 AM

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[/quIt's about the humiliation. It's like trying to understand b/s if you're not into it or financial domination. We're all wired somewhat differently.

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I agree with Bootkicked. I have often fantasized about serving at a femdom party and being forced to kiss and lick the high heels of all the dominant women in attendance, including the dirty soles of their shoes. this to me is the ultimate in my humiliation fantasy. Any dommes in the NY area need their shoes cleaned????

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/29/2006 12:57:56 AM

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Maybe we watch the same videos!

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RE: boot sole licking - 12/29/2006 1:20:53 AM

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I don't understand. First you defend my fetish, taking it further than even my interest. I wouldn't do mud or obvious dirt beyond regular wear. Was the first part of your post facetious?

I probably do watch too many videos, but as the I posted before, my tongue really was blackened by regular ground in grime. That was reality. It was mindblowing, unexpected humilation. Another time, before this fetish had really come to fruitition, I got a bootsole in my face that smelled like dried beer. What can I say? A fetish was launched. If this fantasy "bites me in the ass,"
how so do you mean?

I don't care how other STRANGERS view me. I definitely wouldn't want anyone in my regular life to view this. Yes, I am ashamed of it because I know it is stupid. As is getting beaten. As is paying 2, 250 per hour to get humiliated in general and denied. I can get denied for free all day long. I'm ashamed of the whole thing and wouldn't want anyone to ever know any of it. So I thrive on it in secrecy.

I agree on the trust part but when you see pros they are inherently strangers. It's all a leap of faith, anyway you cut it. And I have been burned a couple times. The fear of the unknown is all part of the adrenaline rush. BDSM isn't lifestyle or philosophy to me. It's about getting in touch with all kinds of senses like fear, arousal, shame, pain. It's a combination depressant, narcotic and even sometimes halucinogen. But you gotta play hard to get there and sometimes that is really rough and means getting pushed both physically and psychologically.

Thanks for responding.

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I do not think it is a disgusting fetish. I have made my slave lick the soles of my boots before after getting them dirty in the mud. He cleans all my footwear after I wear them. And before anyone tells me how nasty that is, I would like to remind them that their computers, doorknobs, toilet seats and cell phones have more bacteria on them than the mud on my boots. I watch where I walk (avoiding shit). Yard dirt is really not so bad. Many unmentionables eats gobs of it and survive to live for years.

I DO think you watch too many videos. Come back to reality, boy.

As I say.. good luck.. if you ever get your "fantasy" it very well may end up biting you in the ass..

This fantasy is something that you are obviously ashamed of, yet you claim you don't care how others view you, if you do it.. tsk tsk.. I know there is someone in your life you would not want to see you do such a thing. Your fantasy has a potential to take you into dangerous territory, imho. If you do not know who you play with, how can you trust them?

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