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BlkMSubneedsspnk -> When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/21/2005 3:32:56 PM)

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Here's a question I'd like to ask any and all experienced dom/mes:
When will a dom/me know they have a slave/sub that will meet their requirements?
I ask this because recently I had to inform a potential slave that we could not meet in real time due to distance and her lack of financial support. I personally believe that any potential live-in sub/slave should be able to do their part to support not only thier master/mistress, but themselves also. Too many of the profiles that I have read from those who want to be slaves are from those who have no job or any means of financial income whatsoever. I'm not greedy nor a golddigger, but I'm inclined to believe that any live-in sub/slave should have a way of helping pay their share of the rent, food, bills, etc. and not have this idea that this is going to be a free ride. Thanks to all who will reply to this post!




PaintedLady -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/21/2005 3:42:36 PM)

if they are your requirements, wouldn't you be able to tell if they were being met? i mostly did want to say from one noob to another- noone around here seems to require any sort of this/that-him/her sort of spelling[;)]




Voltare -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/21/2005 4:13:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BlkMSubneedsspnk


When will a dom/me know they have a slave/sub that will meet their requirements?



If the sub or slave in question doesn't have bit flashing neon lights saying 'made especially for Stephan' I tend to look for the same sorts of qualities that I look for in all of my friends and potential relationship type people. Obviously, you will have to ask yourself what you actually expect out of a sub/slave, be it for casual play, phone sex, or a long term, live in, committed relationship. If I was just looking for someone to practice bondage with, I wouldn't be overly concerned about her political interests or her religious affiliations. On the other hand, her taste in music, movies, clothes, and sense of self worth are all vital for a committed relationship.

Using these guidelines, it becomes a lot easier to answer questions that you posed, like "should I expect to pay for a slave 100% or is it ok to expect her to contribute to the house?" In a perfect world, money wouldn't matter - but for most of us, one income is unlikely to cover all the expenses. Besides, would you really want to own a slave who didn't have a job, and spent the day scrubbing floors or other tasks... or just laying around all day eating chocolate bon bons?

Good luck!

Stephan




Guest -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/21/2005 4:16:10 PM)

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When will a dom/me know they have a slave/sub that will meet their requirements?


Not sure anyone could answer that question FOR you... except YOU.

If you have an ideal for a potential partner, you simply need to prioritize the characteristics you're looking for. Determine which are negotiable, compromisable and which are firm. Then start fishing. Like any day fishing, some are good and some are bad. I would bet that most who are sincerely looking for something in particular are running into the same issue: An abundance of people who don't fit your ideal (bisexual switches may have a small advantage there lol) Don't despair, keep trying, and remember the bigger rush you are in the more you may have to compromise.

good luck on the other side
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Gemeni -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/21/2005 4:21:41 PM)

To my way of thinking, a slave should be useful and do her share.

I would ultimately prefer a long term live in arrangement. I've had my share of "play partners" in the past, but I have outgrown that dynnamic over the years.

I'm very honest with any potential kajira I speak with... Even to say that for the next couple of years,I'm not looking to keep a slave.

Outside of that,I set the qualifications for what will be acceptable-and if they can't be met,nothing will happen until one comes along that does. I don't mold to anyone else's expectations,they mold to mine in this sort of a dynamic. Or they find another Master who better suits them.




BeachMystress -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/21/2005 5:30:59 PM)


First off, and totally irrelevant to the topic, you had me totally confused while reading the post. Your post seemed like a male, but the avatar is female. I realize the avatar doesn't always represent the person, but when it is a photo, it is usually of the person in question. Just wanted to give you a heads up to my confusion in case you encounter it in the future.

Why don't you sit down and write a list of what you want in a potential mate. The list will probably include financially secure and local. It may also include things like honest, good sense of humor, likes books, enjoys nature, wants children. When you're done with that list, make up one of what you will NOT do without in the BDSM realm. All relationships are a compromise of sorts. Often, people end up not with the person who is perfect for them, but with the person who is "good enough." Once you figure out what your criteria are for the person to serve you, you can go from there to figure out which one is good enough for you. Good Hunting!




proudsub -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/21/2005 7:37:05 PM)

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Your post seemed like a male, but the avatar is female. I realize the avatar doesn't always represent the person, but when it is a photo, it is usually of the person in question. Just wanted to give you a heads up to my confusion in case you encounter it in the future


Profile says male switch.




MidnightWriter -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/21/2005 9:03:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BlkMSubneedsspnk
Here's a question I'd like to ask any and all experienced dom/mes:
When will a dom/me know they have a slave/sub that will meet their requirements?


As others have said, it's pretty much up to the dominant. For me, it's when they've shown their will/skill at obedience to my satisfaction, and I know them well enough to want them as a friend if they're not collared. Everything else can be worked on.

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I ask this because recently I had to inform a potential slave that we could not meet in real time due to distance and her lack of financial support. I personally believe that any potential live-in sub/slave should be able to do their part to support not only thier master/mistress, but themselves also. <snip>

Distance is an issue for me, as well - it'd take an exceptional slave to pique my interest if I'm going to have to exercise that much patience between visits - I don't much like cyber d/s.

But the financial bit - that may be one of the differences between a slave and a sub, but when claiming/collaring a slave, I've never thought of it as an issue.

The last slave I claimed and collared was in financial straits, but was quite employable, and in fact, already had a job. When I placed them in my collar, I also took responsibility for their outstanding bills, health, etc. They turned control over to me, totally - when the paycheck came in, I determined how much went to what bill, how much remained available for pocket money, and what to buy for groceries. When bills were caught up and a surplus became available, it was at my disposal.

When he petitioned for manumission, there were no outstanding bills with his name on them, there were 4 figures in the account that had his name on it, a longstanding medical issue had been dealt with (and treatment paid for) and his Yule/Xmas trinket had been ordered - and we both had a sense of accomplishment for turning those finances around. Had I chosen, that account could have been stripped bare, but those outstanding bills became my responsibility when I collared him - doing other than paying those off simply was not an available option. They'd become my debts, in everything but name.

When we parted ways, I was gracious - I let him keep that part of my money that had been stored in his name. But as my slave, all of the fruits of his labor belonged to me, just as much as the debts that came with him did.

I cannot imagine dealing with a slave in any other fashion. Your mileage, of course, may vary.




FangsNfeet -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/22/2005 6:13:41 PM)

Maybe you should start reading differences between Doms and Masters, Submissives and Slaves. There are differences.

If you want a Slave you better be ready to pay for everything as you own her and in charge of her. This dosen't mean you buy everything that she wants but you do pay for the nescessities. You aren't providing a free ride to a slave. Think of chours and ways she must serve you. Don't forget that they are giving up the place where they live and such to live in what ever shit hole you may be dwelling in.

As a Master or Dom you to have requirements that you must full fill that varies from sub to sub and slave to slave.

MN Writer makes a valid point as well as the others.

Other than that don't forget you're male and being a Man comes first before being a male Dom/Master, Sub/slave.








MasterEbonyDlite -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/23/2005 12:27:30 PM)


Thanks, Stephan, for your advice! For the record, my slave/sub would not be eating bon bons, though scrubbbing floors wouldn't be a bad idea.....as long as she was wearing a
Frech maid's uniform! Lol




BeachMystress -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/24/2005 10:51:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: proudsub

quote:

Your post seemed like a male, but the avatar is female. I realize the avatar doesn't always represent the person, but when it is a photo, it is usually of the person in question. Just wanted to give you a heads up to my confusion in case you encounter it in the future


Profile says male switch.


You think he switches from male to female? LOL, that's a new take on a switch for me!




Darthbetta -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/25/2005 6:09:00 AM)

Too many of the profiles that I have read from those who want to be slaves are from those who have no job or any means of financial income whatsoever. I'm not greedy nor a golddigger, but I'm inclined to believe that any live-in sub/slave should have a way of helping pay their share of the rent, food, bills, etc. and not have this idea that this is going to be a free ride.

Once they are "stable in a household", then those things can be secured. Then again, some are there to provide a "service" and their payment for being in servitude is to have bed, food, clothing, etc etc.

If that is the case, then you had better not be "dead weight"..... nothing worse than a lazy underachieving slave.[:'(]




Voltare -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (2/28/2005 10:50:28 AM)

Heh... I strongly recommend black high heels and a very short skirt to boot. Maybe a nice corset to finish the ensamble.

Stephan




BlkMSubneedsspnk -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (3/1/2005 6:52:33 AM)



Sound advice, Stephan! Why not throw in some fishnet thigh highs while I am at it? Lol Thanks for the tips!




ruffnecksbabygir -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (3/1/2005 7:46:06 AM)

you mean i am suppose to be your slave AND work too!! [:@]

i don't like people who smooch off others...no matter if they are dom sub slave switch or whatever else they want to be, they better earn their keep! wether it's working in the home or if need be out of the home to help Master provide for the family, no one should get a free ride.




BlkMSubneedsspnk -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (3/5/2005 8:39:39 AM)



Let me assure you that:

A) I am a STRAIGHT, BLACK MALE
B) I am very serious about this lifestyle
C) I didn't find your comments about me to be amusing; in fact, I found the, to be very insensitive.

If you aren't going to provide some POSITIVE advice, then please reserve your comments. Thanks!




onceburned -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (3/5/2005 10:36:12 AM)

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you mean i am suppose to be your slave AND work too!! [:@]


Yeah... that doesn't sound right. I bet it is a violation of union rules.

[sm=tongue.gif]

Oh, BlkMSubneedsspnk... a bit of humor is par for the course in these forums. It helps to break up the deadly seriousness and add a bit of fun.




BlkMSubneedsspnk -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (3/6/2005 7:07:27 PM)

[:D]

What union rules?! There is no such thing in BDSM (well, at least not in my domain)! Lol




MasterEbonyDlite -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (3/11/2005 9:18:45 AM)

[:D]
Thanks fotr the tip and I'll certainly keep it mind!




MizSuz -> RE: When will a dom/me know when he/she has a slave/sub that will met their requirements? (3/11/2005 10:24:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Voltare

Heh... I strongly recommend black high heels and a very short skirt to boot. Maybe a nice corset to finish the ensamble.

Stephan



In repeating myself (from a recent thread, I can't remember which):

I'm partial to plugs held in by rope corsets that are anchored to posture collars for domestic duties (if I'm of a mind to pay attention). <grin> Sometimes they even cry while they work.




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