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pixelslave -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (12/30/2006 5:17:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FLsubmalecd

Hi Pixel,

I do not know how to frame and quote responses like you did. (gotta learn that).


That's easy enough to do! [:D]  Just insert extra pairs of (/quote) and (quote) for the parts you want to keep.  Only you'll need to replace the paretheses I've used with brackets just as you see them in the message reply box in order to make them work. [:)]
 
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But maybe I was misunderstood. So I will try to address each question you raised. Do I know anyone that has transitioned? The answer is yes. I also have one dear friend that is non-op and prefers to stay that way, but lives 24/7 as a woman.  Do I accept her for being a woman?
Yes I do have perhaps more empathy and acceptance of TS's then some due to my being a CD. I think I do. Now there is a total difference in liking, accepting, befriending someone, and socializing with someone then submitting to and serving them.  You can call it a preference or whatever. My preference is to be in a relationship with a genetic woman and to submit only to her. It has nothing at all to do with my accepting anyone and that includes myself.
  

I guess this is where the root of the misunderstand lies with me in what you've said.  On one hand you say that you accept your TS friend as a woman (I recognize she's non-op at the moment), but state you would only serve a genetic woman.  If you had a deep friendship with a TS that suddenly developed or "sparked" into something with potential for more, would you still reject her because she wasn't genetically pure even though she was post-op and you physically and emotionally saw her as a woman?
 
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BTW, I have never been rejected because I am a CD. Every woman I ever had any kind of a deep relationship with knew and accepted me for me.


I'm glad you clarified that, as my impression from your posts, both in this thread and others was that your experience had been something other than what you've just described, but you didn't use the "deep relationship" qualifier at that particular time.
 
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I think you went to far to suggest that I don't care about or accept TS's simply because I would never submit to one. I accept all for what and who they are. That does not mean I have to like a relationship beyond a friendship with them. 

I think we all are picky about what we want and like in our lifestyle. Maybe I did not articulate myself very well. Maybe I am failing to do so now. But again, it is just a preference as to who I will or will not submit to.


Yes, we all have our preferences as to who we will or will not submit to.  You seem to have a preference as well as to "what" you will or will not submit to, not just to "whom".  While trying my best not to sound judgmental, it comes across to me as a prejudice and not just a preference.  Perhaps it is just semantics, I don't really know. [8|]

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As an example: I accept gays for who and what they are. I have had gay friends. They may be cherished as friends. But that does not mean I will have sex with them.


Isn't that like comparing apples and oranges?  No one asked if you were gay!

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I  have TS friends, but that does not mean I want a relationship with them beyond friendship.  You made some good points. But you clearly made some wrong assumtions about my acceptance of myself.....All because it is my choice, my preference to serve ONLY a genetic female. That's kind of like saying I don't accept myself as a male because I won't submit to a male! I do think you were way off base there. But understandable in a post of a few words subject to misinterpretation and without knowing anything else about me.      


You said above that you view your TS friend as a woman, apparently you do not if you would see submitting to her as submitting to another male! [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m23.gif[/image]  My point being you can't really have it both ways!  I don't doubt that's the way you justify it in your mind, but it seems rather hypocritical to me to differentiate between a woman and a "genetic woman"; especially if you don't plan to test every woman that you meet!  But that's just one man's opinion, which doesn't make yours right or wrong, only different than mine. [&:]
 
 - pixel




FLsubmalecd -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (12/30/2006 6:32:08 PM)

I wanted to respond to this. But not 30 minutes ago, my Domme has released me from consideration. I am hurt and sad beyond words. So I will not be posting again on this or maybe any other thread.
All I wanted was to love and be loved and to live for and serve one woman. That dream and hope is gone...Happy New Year to those that have what I wanted and will never have. 




pixelslave -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (12/30/2006 7:13:39 PM)

FLsubmalecd,
Try to remember that this too shall pass.  Just because it didn't work out with this particular Mistress doesn't mean there isn't another one out there for you.  I'm truly sorry you have to experience this, but perhaps there is a lesson hidden in it someplace for you that will make it a positive experience for you if you look for the silver lining inside the cloud.  I'm sure that isn't much consolation right now, but its the best I can think of at the moment. [8|]
 
 - pixel




DigitBox -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (12/31/2006 11:01:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

You said above that you view your TS friend as a woman, apparently you do not if you would see submitting to her as submitting to another male! [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m23.gif[/image]  My point being you can't really have it both ways!  I don't doubt that's the way you justify it in your mind, but it seems rather hypocritical to me to differentiate between a woman and a "genetic woman"; especially if you don't plan to test every woman that you meet!  But that's just one man's opinion, which doesn't make yours right or wrong, only different than mine. [&:]
 
 - pixel


There are just sooooo many reasons why TS and CD wouldn't want to be with each other.  It's a rather complicated issue in the trans world.  But the likelihood of it happening is really quite rare.

Plus there is the issue of a persons preference.  We all have our reasons for not wanting to be with certain people.

Also some post-ops who pass well don't disclose their trans status so one might not even know they are with a trans woman.  With the effects of hormones, cosmetic proceedures, and modern day surgical techniques it can be very hard to tell, especially if the person doesn't have a more typically male deportment and body shape.




mellian -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (1/1/2007 6:37:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DigitBox
There are just sooooo many reasons why TS and CD wouldn't want to be with each other.  It's a rather complicated issue in the trans world.  But the likelihood of it happening is really quite rare.


Yeppers, many reasons, ranging from personal to drama to politics. Heck, there is some TS who wouldn't want to be with another TS either for personal reasons.




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Also some post-ops who pass well don't disclose their trans status so one might not even know they are with a trans woman.  With the effects of hormones, cosmetic proceedures, and modern day surgical techniques it can be very hard to tell, especially if the person doesn't have a more typically male deportment and body shape.


Some, while not open to the world that they trans, will respond honestly if asked specificly as really, there is no point in lying, especially if you are active in the community and other sort of activism. Especially in a city where you live most of your life in. :p


-mellian




sting516 -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (1/26/2007 5:12:05 AM)

Lately i've found myself quite attracted to feminine TS's...it's less about the genitals than about the feminine appearance...it's also not about any great desire for having cock with an excuse...as i recently went to a local 'movie theatre' to see if that was the appeal, and i found myself not at all interested...but if a TS has a feminine appearance, or at least not a masculine one, then i can go there with them.

Not that you asked!  LOL




LadyEllen -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (1/26/2007 5:59:30 PM)

Sting - you do realise do you, that the TS woman has in mind surgery to change those genitals of which you speak or may have already done so? And that most of them have no desire whatever to use or have admired, the genitalia with which they were born? Please dont be in any confusion that the pics you might find on websites and perhaps in your head, have any relation to transsexual women.

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TheLaughingDomme -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (2/10/2008 7:46:11 PM)

Kudos- that's what it all really comes down to: being W/who Y/you are and being accepted in the relationships Y/you seek. That's Universal! XO




LadyPact -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (2/11/2008 5:35:31 AM)

Was there a particular reason this thread was brought back?  




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Difference in serving a TS/CD Mistress?, if any (2/11/2008 9:32:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: openmindedslave


Is there anything  more people would like to share on this subject? I had one TS Mistress contact me personally and suggested that when males come to her, they feel their not cheating on their girlfriends or wifes  because their not with another woman  Does anyone find that to be a common thread of thinking ?


its cheating regardless of who you are with.  but the gf involved who's being cheated on can say that you are gay and can tell everyone what you did ruining your reputation.  if she believes like you believe that they're not really women.





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