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GreyStorm -> Opus Dei (2/22/2005 5:04:12 PM)

Opus Dei, a part of the Catholic Church, practices self flagellation(I think thats the word), as a way of purifying themselves. Do any of you submissives or slaves do the same thing? Do you practice this if you have a Master or Mistress, or if you are searching for the One to serve?




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Opus Dei (2/23/2005 5:46:46 AM)

I did self bondage before I figured out I could get other people to do it to me and lots of people do self bondage even after they have partners. Lots of masochists will pinch and hurt themselves.

If they are in relationships, they can often be told to do it to themselves if they can't be together. Sometimes it's for the pain and sometimes it's for the sublime altered state it takes them to.




mistoferin -> RE: Opus Dei (2/23/2005 6:08:59 AM)

After my ex Sir and I split I was sooooo lost. I was not up for getting right back out there and searching again. I was in a serious state of flogger/subspace withdrawal. So I tried the whole self spanking, the hair brush, paddle, even tried flogging myself once til I went to flog my shoulders and caught a real nice wraparound in the face. Yes I guess I looked like a scene right out of "The Secretary". It didn't work and I was even less fulfilled and empty than before I tried.




realophelia -> RE: Opus Dei (2/23/2005 4:44:26 PM)

I did some self discipline when I was I with my old Dom because he instructed me to. Because I'm a masochist, I did enjoy it on a level. The most important part of the experience, however, was the feeling that I was doing it for him.

I don't think it would have made a lot of sense to me without him in the picture (anymore than it would make sense for Opus Dei to do what they consider to be the works of God without God in the picture). I have done other pain inducing things on my own, but not what I would consider flagellation or discipline.

~Ophelia




NoPinkBalloons -> RE: Opus Dei (2/25/2005 6:27:15 PM)

Hmmm...when I top, I often to the "one for you, one for me" kind of thing. It's easy to bring a flogger back over your own shoulder with a significant *whack*. Does that count?




Suleiman -> RE: Opus Dei (2/27/2005 2:06:08 PM)

I don't really consider spiritual self-castigation to be dependant on having a personal handler. It's part of an inward spiritual quest. If, on the other hand, you are referring to SM-based masturbation, you should be aware that it is distinctly different from religious castigation. Mortification of the flesh is not, by the way, limited to one sect of catholicism. It has been practiced by most christian sects in one form or another, although only a few branches still practice on a regular basis any more. It is also a staple of a great many of the world's religions and appears to go back the the very roots of human development.

I have included ecstatic ritual as part of my spiritual practice, and I consider self-mortification to be an invaluable tool to self-enlightenment. I have also practiced auto-erotic castigation, both for its masturbation value, and as a way of enlightening, disturbing, or even distressing the more mundane souls which surround me.

I also make use of it, as a dominant, to prove that I really can go through anything I expect of my submissive, and more as well. In either case, I do make a distinction between "play time" and those things which I perform for the benefit of my own spiritual growth.




darkpetal -> RE: Opus Dei (2/27/2005 3:04:55 PM)

is this along the same line as fasting?
fasting = going without food for a specific time period for specific reasons, doing some sort of activity instead of eating.




Suleiman -> RE: Opus Dei (2/27/2005 3:44:54 PM)

Fasting is another form of self mortification, frequently performed as a means of spiritual cleansing. I can't think of a religion that does not use some form of fasting as a spiritual practice, but I am really only familiar with a small handful of traditions, so there could well be religions without this practice.




sissymaidlola -> RE: self-mortification ... (3/5/2005 9:42:32 AM)

quote:

Opus Dei, a part of the Catholic Church, practices self flagellation(I think thats the word), as a way of purifying themselves. Do any of you submissives or slaves do the same thing?

[sm=rolleyes.gif]sissy Reads these boards every day ... does that count ?

sissy maid lola


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nella -> RE: self-mortification ... (3/5/2005 8:48:58 PM)

Yes many religious use some sort of purging, by discomfort, pain, fasting, long walks, exhoustion and so on.




Sunriselady -> RE: self-mortification ... (3/5/2005 9:47:09 PM)

I found this thread very interesting. I have been reading about floggers and flogging for a while, and it is an experience with Master that I deem good pain. So good, that I have just ordered a deerhide palm flogger which I can use on myself at Master's direction or when we are apart. I am very anxious for it to arrive.[:D]




CTclay -> RE: Opus Dei (3/6/2005 4:34:08 PM)

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Mortification of the flesh [snip] is also a staple of a great many of the world's religions and appears to go back the the very roots of human development.


Yeah, there's this one society where men and women, often together, gather to mortify themselves through exhaustion (perhaps something like the whirling Dervishes, I dunno). They work themselves into a wild, masochistic sweat by various methods. Sometimes it's just movement back and forth, sometimes they do it with mechanical devices (shades of the Inquisition). If they're not using the machines, they sometimes engage in the ritual together, all doing the same thing at once.

They're so intense about it that they'll sometimes go from ritual to ritual using different machines that attack different parts of their bodies. Often they have large mirrors in the rooms where they do this, so that they can see that they mortify themselves in the proper way.

The women, I've heard, often wear tight, sexy clothing for these rituals. I'm not sure what the men wear. At some points they exercise to special music. "Sweatin' to the Oldies" was, I think, one of their spiritual chants.

The women seem to go in for mortification more than the men do. They'll often go on to other places where they change their appearance -- wearing excruciatingly painful shoes, other clothing that can be painful to wear, and changing their hair constantly, often in ways that they have to laboriously have to keep up. They even change their fingernails -- can you believe it?!

I consider myself pretty tolerant to all kinds of kinks, but man -- some of that stuff is sick, sick sick! Personally, I'm thankful I don't live in one of these exotic, masochistic societies with their irrational, neurotic practices. Gimme some old-fashioned S&M kink any day, I tell you ...




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