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icarus37 -> Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/29/2006 9:25:48 PM)


Hello everyone,

I am searching for technical information and pointers from other submissive males on how to become a cocksucker. Someone who has recently had their first exerience sucking cock would be ideal to help me make this journey - especially someone who found it difficult but was able to overcome the challenges.

Ideally, I am hoping for advice from a predominantly straight submissive male to also share insights on both the physical and psychological aspects of sucking another man's cock. I am mostly hetero and so I don't really want to suck cock in the purely sexual sense. But I am extremely submissive and so I am attracted to the idea of sucking cock as an act of submission to a woman I love precisely because I don't really want to do it for my own gratification. That's what makes it submissive. Someone who shares this perspective with me might be uniquely able to give me advice on how to take this step.

So far, I have never sucked a real cock. If I am able to develop the skills, one of my goals is to give regular blow jobs to the husband of a very close female friend - as a way to be even closer with both of them. But before I offer him regular service, I want to be sure that I am able to handle the physical and mental challenges of having his cock in my mouth. I have sucked on dildos a few times - and have had some jaw trouble (TMJ) with dildos that are too large. Taking it too deep also gives me gag reflex problems.

On the positive side, I recently bought a "cyberskin" dildo - which is said to more closely resemble the feel of a real cock and I've been better able to suck it than hard plastic ones - but I'm not sure if I've reached an endurance that would enable me to service a real cock to completion - or to satisfy its owner that he had been properly blown.

Any comments or advice from cocksuckers who are also just starting out will be appreciated.

Regards,

"patrick"




JohnWarren -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/29/2006 9:38:07 PM)

There are several books you might want to consult.  One of the best is The Ultimate Guide for Fellatio.  I used to carry this one when I was a bookseller and got some very enthusiastic feedback... and a few great demos of what the reader had learned.  Others are Tickle His Pickle and You Want Me to do What?  I don't know as much about that one.

There are also a number of DVDs but I can't recall any titles off hand




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/29/2006 9:45:55 PM)

Sucking cock is sucking cock, doesn't matter whether you're a male or female (though some might argue generalistic differences in relationships, the physical antomy remains the same).

Reposted:
Frankly, due to jaw problems and small mouth, I use my mouth only 30% of the time doing oral sex.

My generic method is to start with my hands- massage the cock, scratch the balls a bit, get the blood flowing so you can start to sense when it's getting hard.

Then I use my mouth to lick it gently, get it more sensitized and a bit wet.  This is about the only time I put my mouth into the cock- when it's still only half hard and can fit easily, and I can roll my tongue around it inside.

After that, I keep my mouth almost completely on the head, which is the most sensitive, just licking and keeping saliva flowing so that my hands, which are doing all of the shaft work by stroking regularly. The fingers cover more area and are more manipulative than the tongue and you can keep the pace going much better than with your mouth alone.

So, teeth aren't a problem at all.

Adding:

Psychologically speaking, it really depends on what situation you want.  I mean, get thee to a glory hole if you just want to suck a cock.  If you want a warm body who you know and will have a future relationship with, things get more complicated.

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shatteringlilium -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/29/2006 9:49:35 PM)

icarus/patrick -

If endurance is an issue for you, here are a few pointers:

- Not only is the act of sucking cock a sort of marathon run on its own, the positions you often find yourself in - all fours, kneeling, etc - can be painful or annoying after a while.  A good suggestion is to ask the guy to get into a possition comfortable for you, rasing his cock to where you can get access to it in a way comfortable for BOTH of you. The problem with practicing on a dildo is you can't duplicate a natural possition, not as easily anyway.

- Start slowly.  Few guys will enjoy a reckless sort of suckfest - some may for a quickie, but if you want him to enjoy it, start by teasing him.  Each man differs in what pleases him, but try licking/tickling with your tongue, the head of his penis, just below it where it meets the shaft, the underside, the area where the shaft meets the testicles, and so forth.  Find what parts he enjoys most.

- Go back and forth in heated head-bobbing motions and slow, long pulls.  It's like fucking - you don't want to do it hard and fast the whole time or you're tired and it's over too fast. 

- Don't force a deep-throat.  If it doesn't feel comfortable you may cause yourself injury or gag.  Not sexy. lol

- Ask your partner in advance to guide you and tell you what he is enjoying.  Your best gague on if you're doing well is him.

- Take breaks!  Switch off to giving a nice hand-job, pay attention to the testicles (all the guys I have been with enjoy attention to those, but some don't, and remember to be very gentle).

- Be risky once you're comfortable - try lightly grazig your teeth along him.  Some guys enjoy this.  You may wish to check with them before hand though.

- Taking as much in as you can, suck like you're going to pull bakc, but stay in one spot and just try to suck it while remaining static.  It's a bit hard.  That may be something you should practice so you know where to position your tongue, etc.

- REmember that the dildo can't tell you if you're sucking TOO hard. If you're getting really tired, that may be an issue as well.

- Don't give blow jobs if you have a sore throat [:D]




catize -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/29/2006 10:12:59 PM)

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MasterFireMaam -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/29/2006 11:25:51 PM)

In addition to what's been said, there is an advantage to your situation: you're male. What do you like feeling and getting when someone is performing oral on you? Those are pretty good places to start when you're giving.

Master Fire




canupleaseme -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/30/2006 1:51:49 AM)

One really quick tip i found helped me with gagging is to breath slowly through it dont push it.  I  have learnt to control my gag reflex it took a long time but i never gag at all now[:D] And well done you for wanting to make so much effort !!!




MmakeMme -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/30/2006 6:00:29 AM)

There's a great book called "Tickle His Pickle". I forget the author but it had enough interesting information in there for even a veteran (me). I found mine at the toy store but I'm sure you can find it online too.




LotusSong -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/30/2006 7:52:34 AM)

Establish some simple hand signals for him to use as non-verbal communication.
 
Light tap on the head could be  = back off a bit
Two taps = speed up
Hair grab = take it deeper
 
things like that




mnottertail -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/30/2006 7:56:33 AM)

And just like calculus, reading the book cover to cover is only more confusing.  Practice, practice, practice............

The instructor should be able to grade your technique and give you feedback, I should think.

 




akisha -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/30/2006 7:56:44 AM)

http://dva.gbrit.com/~dougadams/  lessons for both men and women on the art of fellatio,  plus a whole lot of other interesting things

http://www.submissiveloving.com/lingam_massage.html    art of lingam massage

http://www.sexuality.org/l/sex/fellatio.html  another one on fellatio

http://www.bigsextoys.com/hugedildo/19793.html  advice on deepthroating


I've read through these a bit. The last one if you only read to step two it isn't bad, but after that it gets kind of freaky.





whisperedsighs -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (12/30/2006 11:23:41 AM)

I am sure you know what you like when you have your cock sucked?  I would start there and ask the person you intend on servicing to give you feed back on what he likes and doesn't like.  It is not neccessary for you to deep throat to please someone with cock sucking.  Contrary to popular opinion, not everyone is able to deep throat.  I found reading this to be interesting and helpful.

http://www.sexuality.org/l/sex/fellatio.html

I am not a male so I can't speak to your psychological needs. 

Something you said though has me curious.  You say you want to do this activity as a way to become closer to your friends.  If this is the only reason you are trying to do this, I would have to wonder how enthusiastic you are in learning.  In my experience, men enjoy my blow jobs more when I am "into it" then when I am just doing something as a service to them.  Maybe there are other ways for you to become closer to this couple.  Or if this isn't something that is truely a part of you you may rethink trying to be something you aren't.  I am not saying you are trying to be something you aren't, because I don't know you well enough to address that, but that part of your post brought that question to mind.  You are the only one who can answer that.




all4yourplsr -> RE: Advice for novice cock sucker? (1/9/2007 1:26:54 PM)

Interesting that I find this topic since I have been thinking about it a lot recently since I was sent some realy hot TS pics.  :-)




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