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Real0ne -> Believing the Unbelievable? (12/30/2006 11:15:13 AM)


Issue 1) Wtc was owned by the US gov, run by the NYC port authority.

Issue 2) Wtc was losing business, every year more empty floors, one building was less than 65% occupancy.

Issue 3) Wtc was insulated with asbestos and ordered to clean it up and re-insulate costing millions.

Issue 4) Wtc was losing more money each year that passed.

Fact) a 15 million dollar control bunker was built into building 7 with special re-enforced bulletproof glass separate air/water handing etc. for juliani and cronies.

Fact) larry Silverstein signed a 99 year lease on the buildings.

Fact) 6 months prior to collapse, larry silverstein took out the first and only 3.5 billion dollar "terrorist" insurance policy on the property.

Fact) Wtc was totally powered down including the "security and video surveylance systems" 1 week prior to the collapse to upgrade the internet cables.

Fact) After the upgrade securacom never brought the bomb sniffing dogs back in through the building.

Fact) securacom was in charge of security at the wtc center.

Fact) Securacom is a jointly owned american/kuwaiti security company.

Fact) Securacom's CEO goes by the name of Marvin Bush, GW Bush's brother who resigned the day of 911.

Fact) The FEMA Disaster team was sent up to new york city the prior night for a disaster preparedness drills.

Fact) the F16 fighter squadron at andrews afb were sent to south carolina for drills just prior to the attacks.

Fact) OBL was having dialysis treatments in an american hospital in dubai at the time of the attacks.

Fact) NORAD was having simulated "what if someone tried to fly a plane into the wtc building" drills on the morning of 911.

Fact) Jet fuel does not get hot enough to bring down a steel frame building.

Fact) The wtc architecs stated they could have withstood several planes hitting without collapsing.

Fact) Firemen on the radio can be heard to say there were only 2 "small isolated" fires on the 78th floor and all they needed was 2 hose lines to put them out.

Fact) People can be seen standing waiting to be rescued in the gaping holes of the supposed fiery inferno that was "hot" enough to melt steel.

Fact) Firemen and news reporters and tapes have all reported numerous explosions within the buildings just prior to and during the collapse.

Fact) Civilian Video footage shows premature detonation of one of the thermate charges.

Fact) Privately performed tests of the steel samples show that demolition grade thermite, (thermate), was used to melt the steel beams.

Fact) The steel, (crime scene evidence), was quickly, (illegally), disposed of and skirted off to be melted down overseas.

Fact) Fire fighters were unable to find so much as a desk or a chair or any office equipment larger than 1/2 the size of a telephone pad.

Fact) 78 human bone fragments of only a couple centimeters long were found on top of the duetshe building across the street 100+ yards away.

Fact) Meneta was sitting/talking with cheney during the pentagon attack.

Fact) Cheney was asked if his "orders" still stood when news that the plane "supposed" plane that flew into the pentagon was 50 miles out, then 30 miles out, last 10 miles out, and cheney replied to the aide: "did you hear anything to the contrary"

Fact) Phone calls could not be made from planes that were flying from that altitude and speed as was heard.

Fact) There was no 767 debris found at the pentagon.

Fact) People at the pentagon smelled cordite, the explosive material used in a tomahawk cruise missile.

Fact) The fbi will not release the other 10 tapes of the pentagon explosion.

Fact) The hole in the pentagon was not big enough to fit a 767 into.

Fact) Bush at the school was seen holding that book up side down

Fact) Bush at the school sat there for 15 minutes before he left the school room or took any action.

Fact) Building #7 of the world trade center was never hit or damaged by the planes but it also fell down.

Fact) Wtc buildings are the first, not one, but 3 steel buildings in the world to fall down as a result of plane crashes or fire. All on the same day.

Fact) Fortunately the part of the pentagon that got hit was the newly constructed bomb re-enforced part that only housed a few auditors who were investigating how the federal government managed to lose 2.3 billion dollars and not to many people were killed as a result.

Fact) Fortunately building #7 is only where the fraud investigations were being conducted against worlcom, enron, the california power, coporate fraud, and lists of insider trading fraud on the stock market and no people were actually in the building when it fell to the ground at 5:30pm that same day 

Fact) Larry silverstein does a freudian and admits they demolished building #7.

Fact) The Fbi is on record stating that they have "NO" evidence OBL had anything to do with wtc.

Fact) OBL stated he had nothing to do with Wtc claiming it was against his religious beliefs to do such a thing.

Fact) The us had several opportunities to pick him but just happened to nearly miss him.

Fact) $100,000.00 was paid to mohamed atta

Fact) The american people waved their flags and and screamed their war cries lets get the bad guys.

Fact) It just goes on and on and on, this only a partial list of "coincidences" that took place on 911.

Fact) Scientists estimate there are 18,000,000,000,000,000,000 grains of sand that comprise the earth.

Fact) Idiot conspiracy theorists, hell, do the math, everyone knows its just coincidence.  Why the odds this all happening are at least 1 in 41,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 chance that all this could happen at once and those is damn good odds man how can ya lose!

Patriot act!
Thank you Massa may i have another!!

RFID, National ID
Thank you Massa may i have another!!


Fact) The american people got FUCKED!
Thank you Massa may i have another!!

Democracy, it just dont get no better than dat!




Stephann -> RE: Believing the Unbelievable? (12/30/2006 11:47:14 AM)

The burden of proof is on one who makes a claim - not on the one hearing the claim to refute.  No sources are specified for any of these claims. 

Fact) OBL was having dialysis treatments in an american hospital in dubai at the time of the attacks

These were attacks planned years in advance.  It wouldn't matter if OBL was getting dialysis, dead, or visiting disneyland.

Fact) The us had several opportunities to pick him but just happened to nearly miss him.

Naturally, we go out of our way to target and 'miss' Bin Laden.  I'm sure they were just kidding about the million dollar reward on his head.

Fact) People at the pentagon smelled cordite, the explosive material used in a tomahawk cruise missile.

I don't know what cordite smells like.  Most of the folks in the Pentagon wouldn't know what cordite smells like.  Even so, the possibility that there may be anti aircraft rockets housed within the pentagon complex wouldn't be particularly shocking - it's only the US Military Headquarters. 

I used to work at the Naval Annex (on a hill overlooking the Pentagon.)  I saw the NEX gas station where I used to fill my car up before going to work on the news.  It was demolished.

Conspiracy theories are all well and good, and are as enjoyable as Ghost stories.  Some people choose to take the Ghost story thing a little further than others.  Kindly don't pass off ghost stories as facts without something to back you up (preferably printed material of some sort.)





FullCircle -> RE: Believing the Unbelievable? (12/30/2006 2:57:57 PM)

Sorry but some of those facts are fiction. The one about the jet fuel not causing a fire intense enough to bring down a steel framed building for example is fiction. You don’t need a fire fuelled by jet fuel to weaken a steel framed building to the point of collapse. A common fire will do it as long as the fire protection has been stripped off as it was in the case of the WTCs. I also don’t see how the structural engineers would have designed the building to withstand several plane impacts either especially considering when they were designed.

You are also neglecting to mention UBL had a background in the construction industry and the tape released on his behalf after the attacks showed him indicate with his hands where the planes should hit for maximum effect. Not at the top but just above the mid height.

The hole in the Pentagon may not be as big as a plane but a square peg will fit in a round hole if you hit it hard enough with a hammer. I’m guessing the Aluminium fuselage and wings gave way before the wall of the pentagon did to some extent.

I find it strange that some people would like to believe the conspiracy theories because it makes them feel safer if it was orchestrated by figures within their own government. The simple facts are that old design standards didn’t meet later day threats.




mnottertail -> RE: Believing the Unbelievable? (12/30/2006 3:22:11 PM)

This does not include the fact that when this building was built in the 70s and so on, and there is this thing called the Mafia in the US and particularily in New York, and because a building inspector said such a pile of AFSCME steel was laying at the site or such and such a slump test was administered on the concrete at such and such a place and time, or such and such a engineering artifact was completed at such and such a place, and to state that some engineering table, or AFSCME document or some anything is the Law of Hammaraubi on this is ludicrous..............I doubt the engineering bullshit of the illuminati of the educatinal institutions on what it took to take that building down.

Ron




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