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akbarbarian -> RE: Suspension by balls (12/30/2006 9:39:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: darchChylde

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

I see your point in theory, but I just can't see this being anything more than jack off fodder.  I don't like to see fantasy masquerading as a real question. 


You see, that's the problem... this is not just fantasy; anything that someone thinks up is incredibly likely to have been tried by soeone, somewhere.

Think about it this way... this is how i first got introduced to the idea myself, my first Mistress did have a fantasy about hanging me by the balls.  We talked it over and did our research to find that it is not possible to do the actual act without harm.  So we did some more research, and had a suspension harness made that allowed for quick release, and was flesh toned; so we could have the fantasy but perform only the illusion of the act.  The was some physical discomfort, but not even enough to complain about; but i got the sensation of helplessness that i enjoy from suspension and She got the visual illusion of me hanging by my balls.

But for every couple that do the research about an act, there are many many who will not go to any trouble... information is always valuable.

go in love and peace,

oren

postscript: look to my first post in the thread to see more information about the how of the act.

Your experience is enlightening for sure.  Seeking suspension that is illusory and only supports a little bit of bodyweight is different from anything I saw in the OP or other posts except for yours.  Genuine suspension of all bodyweight seems homicidal to me, so I didn't see the point of having a thread about it since our practices aren't homicidal. 

Edited to add, I stand corrected.  I saw your earlier post but didn't understand the type of suspension you meant until you commented on it later. 



YourhandMyAss -> RE: Suspension by balls (12/30/2006 9:49:45 PM)

Maybe your practices are not homocidal, but perhaps other people's are. No it's not safe, no it's probably not sane, but do not make blanket statements as to "what our practices are"



akbarbarian -> RE: Suspension by balls (12/30/2006 9:55:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

Maybe your practices are not homocidal, but perhaps other people's are. No it's not safe, no it's probably not sane, but do not make blanket statements as to "what our practices are"

Homicidal how to's aren't against policy here? 



stef -> RE: Suspension by balls (12/30/2006 9:56:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

I see your point in theory, but I just can't see this being anything more than jack off fodder.  I don't like to see fantasy masquerading as a real question. 

That's incredibly presumptuous of you.  How do you know it's not a "real" question?  Some people play with bunny fur floggers and silk scarves.  Others play with scalpels and choke holds.  Still others play at levels far above that.  Not everyone plays the same way and some people might do things that scare the high holy hell out of you and me and is old hat to them.  Are they not "real?"  Just because it's something that lives outside your psychological comfort zone doesn't make it any less "real" than the things you feel comfortable with.

Could it be jack off fodder?  Of course.  If you started a thread about toilet service, someone could make the same claim about that.  Does that mean you're not "real?"  Watch your first step on that slope, it's more slippery than it looks.

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There may be some people who also use chainsaw strap ons, and stories about why it doesn't work, but I believe those also don't belong on these forums any more than discussions on limp amputation as a way of submitting.

From what I've read of yours so far, you seem a decent enough fellow, but I'm awfully glad you're not in the position to decide what belongs here or what's "real."

~stef



akbarbarian -> RE: Suspension by balls (12/30/2006 10:00:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

I see your point in theory, but I just can't see this being anything more than jack off fodder.  I don't like to see fantasy masquerading as a real question. 

That's incredibly presumptuous of you.  How do you know it's not a "real" question?  Some people play with bunny fur floggers and silk scarves.  Others play with scalpels and choke holds.  Still others play at levels far above that.  Not everyone plays the same way and some people might do things that scare the high holy hell out of you and me and is old hat to them.  Are they not "real?"  Just because it's something that lives outside your psychological comfort zone doesn't make it any less "real" than the things you feel comfortable with.

Could it be jack off fodder?  Of course.  If you started a thread about toilet service, someone could make the same claim about that.  Does that mean you're not "real?"  Watch your first step on that slope, it's more slippery than it looks.

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There may be some people who also use chainsaw strap ons, and stories about why it doesn't work, but I believe those also don't belong on these forums any more than discussions on limp amputation as a way of submitting.

From what I've read of yours so far, you seem a decent enough fellow, but I'm awfully glad you're not in the position to decide what belongs here or what's "real."

~stef

Oh I'm all for edge play.  I've had toilet service for a year with no ill effects to my ex as part of it, and I made sure it wouldn't kill her before hand.  I'm plenty edgy, but I draw the line at snuff.  Is snuff more common on these boards than I knew? 



akbarbarian -> RE: Suspension by balls (12/30/2006 10:03:12 PM)

"Subjects which are unacceptable regardless of circumstance include, but are not limited to - minors, bestiality, incest, necrophilia, snuff and criminal activities."

I considered this a snuff jackoff topic and a criminal activity when taken literally, and not done in a fantasy sense as one poster gave an example of.



stef -> RE: Suspension by balls (12/30/2006 10:24:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

Oh I'm all for edge play.  I've had toilet service for a year with no ill effects to my ex as part of it, and I made sure it wouldn't kill her before hand.  I'm plenty edgy, but I draw the line at snuff.  Is snuff more common on these boards than I knew? 

I suppose that all depends on what your definition of snuff is, because it certainly doesn't appear to be the same as mine.  As I understand it, snuff is an activity where the planned outcome is the death of one of the participants.  Unless I missed it, and I don't believe that I did, I don't see that intent being discussed in this thread by anyone.  Would you be so kind as to share what it is that snuff means to you?

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I considered this a snuff jackoff topic and a criminal activity when taken literally, and not done in a fantasy sense as one poster gave an example of.

Wow.  Allow me to restate that I'm awfully glad you're not in the position to decide what belongs here.

~stef



AquaticSub -> RE: Suspension by balls (12/31/2006 12:18:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

"Subjects which are unacceptable regardless of circumstance include, but are not limited to - minors, bestiality, incest, necrophilia, snuff and criminal activities."

I considered this a snuff jackoff topic and a criminal activity when taken literally, and not done in a fantasy sense as one poster gave an example of.


The OP mentioned nothing about dying, so it's not snuff. There is nothing wrong with having an extreme fantasy and hoping to find a way to achieve it. I would dearly love to suspended with a vib over my clit for 24 hours. However, I realize that would be a problem as soon as I needed to go to the bathroom. Yes it's different but it's something that I would like to happen that really can't because it requires constent supervision and is impractical. Can't blame him for trying to find a way to make it work.



Royalton -> RE: Suspension by balls (12/31/2006 1:05:26 AM)

if you are suspenden just by the balls and the noose is tight enough you will rip them off



stef -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 1:34:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef

To akbarbarian:  Would you be so kind as to share what it is that snuff means to you?

<5 days of nothing but crickets chirping>

I guess not.

~stef



Carrianna -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 4:21:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: unsung

Based on a true occurance, and I don't believe your testicles wean enough muscle to support the rest of your body weight.

You need to see a movie called, of all things, "Roy's Nut Hang."  Full scrotal suspension, then lots of testicular torture.  When this movie says it's not for the faint of heart, it's not kidding.  It used to be available therough BME but I don't know if it still is.

~stef 


Sounds like a good movie... 



MstrTiger -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 5:03:26 PM)

It is freaky woe is anyones testicles who tries it.



givemyall -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 5:11:42 PM)

I could come up with a nice long list of men that you could practice on [:D]




Devilslilsister -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 6:31:17 PM)

From my knowledge, a man losing his penis does not actually kill him.  Not that i've ever encountered a man having his penis ripped off.  I do know that Lorena Bobbit cut of her husbands penis and he lived.  Threw it out a car window, only to have it put back on him and he become a porno star. 

Doesnt seem like death to me.  I dont think having any limb ripped off is certian death, but then i've never seen a limb ripped off so of course i could be wrong. 

(ripping a head off seems like it would constitute what, whats his face was talking about)  But i'm not sure if a head constitues a limb. 



AquaticSub -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 7:19:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

From my knowledge, a man losing his penis does not actually kill him.  Not that i've ever encountered a man having his penis ripped off.  I do know that Lorena Bobbit cut of her husbands penis and he lived.  Threw it out a car window, only to have it put back on him and he become a porno star. 

Doesnt seem like death to me.  I dont think having any limb ripped off is certian death, but then i've never seen a limb ripped off so of course i could be wrong. 

(ripping a head off seems like it would constitute what, whats his face was talking about)  But i'm not sure if a head constitues a limb. 



While the act won't actually kill you, there is a huge amount of bloodflow going to the penis. If aide isn't obtained quickly a man can bleed to death very easily.



DomFey -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 7:32:58 PM)

Perhaps a safer approach is hanging weights from the balls, rather than suspension.  I have read of men taking as much as much as 50lbs. of weight via use of a twitch, which of course is not anywhere close to the average male's bodyweight.  I have hung about 20lbs. on my subs, via a twitch. 

Timeworn as it may be, a quote from Hardy Haberman's Family Jewels appears in order: 

" 'Weights' for cock and ball play are a matter of personal taste - and endurance!  Before I say anything else about using weights, let me just say this: cock and ball play, like BDSM in general, is not a competition.  Doing more, heavier weights doesn't make you better than the next guy, it just increases the chances that you're going to hurt yourself.  The body will tell you what it can take and what it wants, if you let it.  Tension, sleep or lack of it, emotional state, and many other factors come into play in the complex interrelationship of mind and body.  Sometimes this means that you might not be able to take as much as you did the last time you played, and that's okay.  Sometimes it may mean that you can take more than you ever dreamed possible.  If you can be in the moment with your body as you play, you will know what's right for you."  (pp. 91-92)

I would not attempt hanging a sub by his balls alone.  This is based on my experience in hanging weights from the balls. 

Best,

DomFey



MizSuz -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 7:57:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

Is the next topic hanging by eyeballs?



By hooks would be a much more interesting discussion.

Regarding the OP, I've heard of it being done, I've seen video of it being done, I would not do it.  Some folks would tell you that's sayin' something as my play preferences tend to be what many seem to think is edgy - take it for what it's worth to you.

I heard the "oops" story regarding the failed suspension equipment and testicles.  It allegedly happened perhaps 3 years ago?  Maybe.  I wouldn't swear to its veracity.  It's just what I heard (from a lot of third person sources).

We've all seen the pics and video and played with the occasional person that could do things that seemed unimaginable.  They work at it, build up to it - slowly, with study, thought, planning.  If you're thinking of doing something like this and haven't found any info on it then I would respectfully suggest that your research skills need extensive improvement before attempting "extreme" play that you are inexperienced with.

Now, if I can just get the hooks thing out of my head...



MizSuz -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 8:03:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I would dearly love to suspended with a vib over my clit for 24 hours. However, I realize that would be a problem as soon as I needed to go to the bathroom.



Foley Cathetar



AquaticSub -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 8:36:27 PM)

Yeah but that doesn't help with the other daily bodily function!



cacodylic -> RE: Suspension by balls (1/4/2007 9:37:18 PM)

I think this would qualify as a classic example of a "once in a lifetime" experience, and not in the good sense....

no lather, rinse, repeat



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