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RE: Getting Started - 1/4/2007 5:58:44 PM   
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You know, you may not be as socially inept as you think.  Most people find it difficult to meet new people, they just hide it better, that's all.


Oh I am :) I lose coordination, get toungue-tied, and generally turn into a gibbering idiot, albeit a silent one. I would rather stand outside in the cold and chain-smoke until I feel physically sick than willingly enter a room full of strangers on my own. Even for work I refuse to meet new clients for the first time anywhere other than my own comfortable surroundings. Meeting anyone new under any circumstances is actually a major deal for me.

It does not help that the few times in the distant past I plucked up courage to attend munches the experience was made even more unpleasant by those there. I know I shouldnt tar all with the same brush, but the experiences were repeated by different people at different munches and so had a pretty profound effect on how I viewed the social scene. Luckily for my next (or second to next, I havent checked my diary) I shall be attending with a friend I know personally who can help draw me out of myself as they are well known within their circle.

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RE: Getting Started - 1/4/2007 6:04:26 PM   
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I don't know...you seem pretty together here ;)  Yeah, I know it's the net and all and we're all just words on a screen, but try and imagine a person behind those words.  I think you do just fine when you post.  I'd be delighted to have a conversation with you at a munch.  Hmmmm...don't think that'll happen any time soon as you're across the pond...LOL

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RE: Getting Started - 1/4/2007 6:11:38 PM   
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It is very dificult for us introverts to "just go out". I'm not sure why but I seem to have less trepidation about going to a munch than to a night club or bar. You see for us introverts we know that the people at those places are extroverts and we HATE them. Not personaly mind you but because something that is so hard for us comes so easily for them and neither of us could understand that about each other. Most of the girls I met have been extroverted which is why I didn't bother. Some tried to coax me out of my shell but couldn't understand why it was so hard for me. Now if we go to a munch or some other gathering that has a specific theme the we (at least I) am a bit more comfortable because we know those there share a similar interest.

Lets see If I can live by thoses words and find and go to one. It might be hard to find something in Jerry Fawell's back yard.

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RE: Getting Started - 1/4/2007 6:26:28 PM   
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I don't consider myself an extrovert (although most people do...go figure!) and I go to them.  I mean, we're all just people.  We all put our pants on one leg at a time...really, we do.  No one is actually that scary.  I know when I was younger, I used to have to have a drink to go out.  Now, I just figure that people will either like me or they won't and, to be honest, it doesn't make much difference in my life if they do or don't.  I don't mean to sound arrogant, but it's the truth. 

Go to a munch and just say hi to the person you're sitting next to,  S/he's prolly just as nervous as you are. 

Here's the deal...those girls are insecure.  Trust me, they are.  Just say hi.

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RE: Getting Started - 1/4/2007 6:42:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I don't know...you seem pretty together here ;)  Yeah, I know it's the net and all and we're all just words on a screen, but try and imagine a person behind those words.  I think you do just fine when you post.  I'd be delighted to have a conversation with you at a munch.  Hmmmm...don't think that'll happen any time soon as you're across the pond...LOL


Trust me, its far easier here with a delete key to hand and a scroll up button to double check what someone just said:)

If I was as trans-atlantic as I used to be I would gladly accept an invite to a munch with you or pretty much any other regular poster on these boards. If I were a regular "muncher", and I hope to be so soon, I would of course extend a similar invitiation to others who may visit my little corner of this planet.

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RE: Getting Started - 1/4/2007 7:17:38 PM   
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Yeah, I know.  I guess I just wanted to make the point that we are all a bit apprehensive when meeting new people...some more than others, I guess.  I also know that it's easy to give advice and not so easy to take it at times. 


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RE: Getting Started - 1/4/2007 10:01:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sleazy

Trust me, its far easier here with a delete key to hand and a scroll up button to double check what someone just said:)



I Second that though, there is no delete key for spoken words. But also we can take time to formulate a response and edit it before we hit send.


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RE: Getting Started - 1/5/2007 2:36:56 AM   
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Yeah, I know.  I guess I just wanted to make the point that we are all a bit apprehensive when meeting new people...some more than others, I guess.  I also know that it's easy to give advice and not so easy to take it at times. 



I do appreciate that Bandit, unfortunately for me a "bit" apprehensive would be like comparing the pacific to a small pond. I am a little more than apprehensive, more like a dozen paces past shit scared :) I do know that a short while after I find the courage to step over the threshold I will wonder what I was so worried about, but I still get a terrible case of the shakes beforehand.



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RE: Getting Started - 1/5/2007 3:51:39 AM   
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Well, as long as you take those steps, then you'll be all right. 

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RE: Getting Started - 1/5/2007 3:59:06 AM   
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Electricians go to instructional classes to teach them electricity, but until they are zapped by 220v they have no experience. A Medical professional can study a liver in a book for years, but until they open up a living person and see a living liver, they have no experience.

Seek, and Ye shall find!

But, the best way to figure all this out is to sit back, relax, and Start researching it on and off line, just as the religous people might do with a church, a T-girl might do with Gender Identity, ect.

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RE: Getting Started - 1/5/2007 3:25:32 PM   
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Awesome! I've started a discussion! Woohoo! *happy dance*

Err, so yeah :)  But seriously folks, I'm astoundingly happy to see that I'm not the only person here who has this aprehension, and that it's not all that uncommon.

As for me, it's not always new people that scare me, but the fact that I hate looking like a fool or an idiot - and I also hate not knowing the appropriate responses to certain things.  And I can be dense sometimes - I mean, I'm not entirely sure I would know if someone was flirting with me or not! LMAO

I look forward to continuing to read responses to this thread and see what other ideas and thoughts are provided.

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RE: Getting Started - 1/5/2007 4:00:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

i know this is on the "Ask a Master" forum but, i hope you won't mind this slave sharing her perspective with you.

Personally, i don't have any interest in attending munches or play parties or anything else of that nature.  That's just me and i don't feel like i'm missing out on anything.  i have only ever gone to one BDSM event and it was just a little meet & greet with a demo on "medical play" at an apartment in the MD suburbs of DC and, although it was kind of interesting, it just wasn't for me.  The only reason i went was because the Dom i was with at the time wanted to go. 

i don't feel like you have to attend events or be a part of some organized group, if that's not what you enjoy.  None of the Doms i have ever been with went through any kind of training.  They just got themselves a nice little flogger (or had me go get a switch off a tree) and started using it on me.  Seeing my reaction to what they were doing told them that what they were doing was working fine.

Just follow your instinct.  Be yourself and trust yourself.  Be honest with yourself and the person you are interested in and let nature take it's course.  If you feel you need to learn certain techniques to be safe and effective in your activities, there are plenty of  resources available online, all you have to do is type in what interests you and you will get a ton of sites to go to.  Mainly, though, just be yourself and your true nature will reveal itself and before you know it, things will fall into place.  Just like anything else in life, the more you do it, the more comfortable and confident you will become at it.

Best Wishes for a Safe and Happy Journey,
slave joy
Owned property of Master David


What she said.

And if you ever need further advice, whoever owns that must know what he's doing. Maybe you can look him up.

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RE: Getting Started - 1/5/2007 6:42:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DigitalNoise

And I can be dense sometimes - I mean, I'm not entirely sure I would know if someone was flirting with me or not! LMAO



I had a erueka moment about that. I was on duty with a Volunteer rescue squad, in uniform and a girl behind a restraunt counter was flirting with me. I DIDN'T KNOW IT. My order took some time but not an extraordinary long time but she offered me a piece of pie anyway for my trouble. Stupid me I didn't want it so I turned to my female partner and asked her what flavor she wanted. We we got back to the truck she said something about the girl liking me and getting me laid to loosen me up. It was then I had one of those moments that your stomach just sinks. I didn't even think of going back in and asking for her number or something. I still kick my self for it to this day. to bad you can't take a flirting 101 class.

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RE: Getting Started - 1/5/2007 7:50:00 PM   
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Oh....too friggin cute. I can hardly stand it, I want that kitten!!! <sigh>

.....On a more serious note, I think online actually is a good place to make a first connection and talk until you feel comfortable to take the next step with the girl.  Its a good way to do this gradually if you're the nervous type about it.

Ive never been to munch or a club, so I dont know much about that.  Ive heard both good and bad. 

Personally I have made my connections online and then stepped out to meet when I felt ready.  If it's any consolation, I am also a bit shy in person, but it has not really stopped me from exploring.  I just feel when the time is right and go for it.  I think tho, maybe it's tougher for the dominant party in some ways.  But the good news it that you can work that Dom thing to your advantage and sort of control the pace it moves at.  Just remember you can take it one step at a time.  Don't worry about your first sessioning with a girl right now.  Just concern yourself with making a connection with someone who seems compatible or local or whatever basis there is for your own criteria.  Talk for a while, then go on a 'date' without expectations.  You can dom someone just by ordering her meal for her and things like that---what Im trying to say is that it can be done is small steps.  And as you get more comfortable in your domliness you can bite off bigger pieces.

Good luck to you :)

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RE: Getting Started - 1/5/2007 7:59:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: marieToo

Oh....too friggin cute. I can hardly stand it, I want that kitten!!! <sigh>


Which kitten?  The one on my shoulder?  Trust me - you don't want her LMAO

quote:

.....On a more serious note, I think online actually is a good place to make a first connection and talk until you feel comfortable to take the next step with the girl.  Its a good way to do this gradually if you're the nervous type about it.

Ive never been to munch or a club, so I dont know much about that.  Ive heard both good and bad. 

Personally I have made my connections online and then stepped out to meet when I felt ready.  If it's any consolation, I am also a bit shy in person, but it has not really stopped me from exploring.  I just feel when the time is right and go for it.  I think tho, maybe it's tougher for the dominant party in some ways.  But the good news it that you can work that Dom thing to your advantage and sort of control the pace it moves at.  Just remember you can take it one step at a time.  Don't worry about your first sessioning with a girl right now.  Just concern yourself with making a connection with someone who seems compatible or local or whatever basis there is for your own criteria.  Talk for a while, then go on a 'date' without expectations.  You can dom someone just by ordering her meal for her and things like that---what Im trying to say is that it can be done is small steps.  And as you get more comfortable in your domliness you can bite off bigger pieces.

Good luck to you :)


See! That's what I was thinking - that online might be slightly easier or even a good place to meet someone.  Of course, now I'm having the issue of not finding anyone that's not already attached or who's not interested - but that's another problem and I refuse to be a whiny bitch about it LMAO :D

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