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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 12:43:52 AM

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Those that keep saying there was no reason to go to Iraq are of the same moral fiber as people that look the other way during a gang rape in a NY alleyway in the middle of the day.

Sometimes I am in awe of the inner workings of the Neoconservative mind, how does so much irrationality exist between two ears, all I can say is wow.

Yanno.....when the camera's were turned on for the national spotlight and Cheney and the other neocons repeated over and over '' If your not with us your with the terrorists '' many took great umbrage.....and some even laughed at the silliness of such propaganda, but more than most know or realize, a significant portion of the citizenry believed in this, and took it directly to heart.

Sad but true.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 1:11:33 AM

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[Blindly following our "leaders" and agreeing with any war or political action they declare and blindly agreeing with any decision they make regarding our nation's troops is more akin to the type of dictatorial, hierarchical society you seem to be so terrified of.

As to your last comment, you haven't ever actually been to New York, have you? You really think that's what goes on here in every back alley. Amazing.

Metro Datelines; Witnesses Sought In Reported Rape
The Manhattan District Attorney's office was seeking more witnesses yesterday to the reported rape of a 3-year-old girl alongside Franklin D. Roosevelt Drive during the Friday rush hour.
Gerald McKelvey, a spokesman for District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau of Manhattan, said the prosecutor's office was "very interested" in hearing from motorists or bystanders who witnessed the attack.

The driver, Noel Sanchez, has said that a number of other people saw the rape taking place. He said that although some people were shouting at the suspect to stop, no one tried to intervene physically.

You can tell NYC votes democrat.

Trying to say you support the troops but not the war is just to try and make you feel less guilty for what your doing, like when you use the break up line "I think we should just be friends".

Just when did I say blindly follow anyone? I'm far more critical of Bush than most liberals, just unlike them it is about real issues, not pretending Saddam didn't have WMD's, or trying to blame haliburton. Take off the tin foil hat!!!

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 1:18:35 AM

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Of course Vietnam was wrong, most intelligent people saw that at the time and Pol Pot came to power because the US carpet bombed Cambodia! Which is why Kissenger is considered a war criminal in most parts of the 'civilised' world.

Not wanting to defend Saddam but probably more Iraqis have probably died due to the American led invasion than were probably killed by Saddam. Two wrongs don't make a right springs to mind.

Thanks for proving my point about the absolute ignorance of liberals. So America caused Pot Pol and Ho Chi min to torture and murder millions? We were responsible for your hero's Stalin and Mao's 150 million dead too in your tin foil world? 200 million dead to liberal ideals implimented, yet you still think socialism/communism would work.

The Red Cross estimates of 7 million killed by Saddam your trying to compare with the few thousand that have died since ending the cease fire with Iraq? You would realize it was ending the 1991 cease fire not an invasion if you had actually read the resolutions instead of getting your 'history' from Mikey Moore cartoons.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 2:23:17 AM

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Of course Vietnam was wrong, most intelligent people saw that at the time and Pol Pot came to power because the US carpet bombed Cambodia! Which is why Kissenger is considered a war criminal in most parts of the 'civilised' world.

Not wanting to defend Saddam but probably more Iraqis have probably died due to the American led invasion than were probably killed by Saddam. Two wrongs don't make a right springs to mind.

Thanks for proving my point about the absolute ignorance of liberals. So America caused Pot Pol and Ho Chi min to torture and murder millions? We were responsible for your hero's Stalin and Mao's 150 million dead too in your tin foil world? 200 million dead to liberal ideals implimented, yet you still think socialism/communism would work.

I'm now pissing myself. You always know a neo-con is losing an argument because they start accusing you of being a commie. Bring on McCarthy brother!

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The Red Cross estimates of 7 million killed by Saddam your trying to compare with the few thousand that have died since ending the cease fire with Iraq? You would realize it was ending the 1991 cease fire not an invasion if you had actually read the resolutions instead of getting your 'history' from Mikey Moore cartoons.

I'd love to see where you got this info from. I think the world would have noticed a reduction in the Iraqi population from 26 million to 19 million, that is more than the Jewish holocaust and the Germans had to kill on an industrial scale to achieve that. Or are you talking about the Iraq-Iran war where an estimated 1 million died?

And how many deaths do you think were caused by the US's interference in Vietnam where it had no purpose being? I think that the fact that Vietnam won and is now a fully functioning country is evidence enough that the war was spurious to say the least.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 4:00:24 AM

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I however understand what war does to those that fight in it. My beloved uncle, who was like a second father to me, was in Vietnam. Out of his entire unit only he and my 4 other "uncles" came back. (friends of his that he spent the rest of his life with) Collectively they had came back with a fake eye, fake leg, and three missing fingers. For his entire life we (family) had to be careful how we woke him (from the door way, throwing shoes at him) because we never knew if he would lunge up as us screaming, his hands reaching for our necks. Uncle Toby (one of his unit "brothers") cried in his sleep because his own subconscious could not handle the amount of killing and attrocity they witnessed.

Yeah, war sucks, and it's fallout on the Citizens of a Constitutional Republic is that deep and traumatic.

Therefore, it must ALWAYS be the LAST option in the diplomatic toolkit.

Which is why the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq is causing so much trouble.

When Bush went to Congress for money and troops to go into Afghanistan for Bin-Ladin, NO ONE IN CONGRESS had a problem, and gave him the Troops and Money to go into Afghanistan.

When Bush took that money, and those troops, and without asking congress, CONDUCTED WAR OPERATIONS AGAINST IRAQ in 2002 WHILE LYING TO CONGRESS ABOUT MILITARY ACTION BEING THE LAST OPTION, he committed a felony, namely Fraud, in violation of 18 USC 371.

Now, are the orders of a Felon valid?

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I have a penchant for loving to take slaves that have been in or are in the military as subs/slaves (after all the military trains 'em sooo well :D :D ) A former submissive of mine came back about 14 months ago with a new plastic foot. He is will be 24 in a few months. He has nightmares too. Except his are of women shoving babies in his hands and him having to throw them to the ground for fear they would blow up in his face. He and others I know (I know many) have said nothing about a single Iraqi saying thank you - but of thrown rocks, spitting, and in some cases being urinated on.

Yeah, torturing prisoners in our custody under orders of Von Rumsfeld REALLY didn't help Americans view of the HONOR of the troops. It would have been a LOT easier if instead of hearing about how a unit murdered a family to rape a 14 year old girl, who then was killed, we heard of a unit who killed a sick fuck who suggested such craziness.

THAT would have been honorable.

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And then there are the returns home that have been told to me BY friends of mine that are just ordinary ground troops. Not "higher ups" but just the bullet proof vest boys used BY the higher ups . . . Of a group of men and women all returning home at the same time, in uniform, being accosted by Americans in airports - spit on, things thrown at them, and they are going home to cry in the night about the horrors they've seen.

I discount such hyperbole generally, but as for why such craziness is almose believable, See above about not fragging the sick fucks raping and murdering kids...

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I am not listing a single personal war opinion. I will not state whether I am pro or anti war. But I do know what war does. Those it does not kill, wish it had.

I'm not afraid to take a stand. I'm against this war, because it was committed fraudulently, it will NEVER be honorable, and just continue to taint those to report for service.

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Thank you to EVERYONE who has posted their opinion here. Even those I do not agree with. It makes me glad that at least our freedom to say what we believe has not been destroyed yet.

Why destroy it, when you can just record everyone's comments for their file, just in case it needs to be used later?

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 4:02:21 AM

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Here is the thing, why not get away from fossils period? Fossils will be history, and so will our economy unless we get a clue and move on to other forms of energy independence.

More importantly, when the oil is gone, what do we make TUPPERWARE out of?

We need to stop burning the stuff.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 4:08:25 AM

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So some may see my actions as illegal and blast me,

Nah, we don't. We see you put in a difficult position.

While attempting to satisfy your sense of personal Honor, you felt the need to obey the orders of those WITHOUT personal honor, and were never REALLY trained in the detection and handling up UNLAWFUL orders, such as the entire fraudulent ( 18 USC 371 covers it ) Iraqi invasion and occupation.

It's debatable whether deserting rather than aiding and abetting felonies ( and to some people sacrificing your eternal soul to damnation, due to the nature of some of the acts committed ) would be more honorable, but I am sure there are some who would feel it's the better option.

( Where was Bush from April to October of 1972 again? )

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 4:11:11 AM

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MANY Vietnam vets do not support this war.

No one, excepting the Neocon Party Whore Cheerleaders, for whom supporting Bush is more important that Truth, Justice and The American Way supports the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Everyone else is somewhere between, "Just End It Somehow", and "We wanna see felony charges filed for this crime"...

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 4:19:57 AM

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NOW, I do not support this "war" and I protested in D.C.
MONTHS before it even started as I did years ago with Daddy Bush. I am proud of the buttons I got from both protests.
That said, you can support the troops 100% and not support this war or the reasons we are there.
AGAIN, you can love your country and support the troops and NOT support or believe in the Commander in Charge.
GOD BLESS you for serving your country, where would we be without you?

That is an intellectual fallacy that you can support the troops while giving aid to the enemy in your protests.

Oh, a "With Us or Against Us" nutjob, eh?

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"Supporting the troops IS supporting their cause not weakening them by supporting our enemy."

Who is our enemy? Saddam Hussain? Who has been executed? Or Osama Bin Ladin? Who isn't being pursued?

Because raping 14 year old girls isn't helping to find "The Enemy", but just creates more people who want to take potshots at us.

Perhaps "The Enemy" are the people who defrauded Congress to get us into Iraq?

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"You give great moral support to the islamic terrorists when they see your protests."

Cite peer reviewed studies please. I don't buy your hypothesis, namely because most arabs couldn't care less what is shown on the NBC evening news.

I don't give a shit about them. I'm BRAVE ENOUGH to accept that the PRICE OF FREEDOM is the risks of OTHER PEOPLE HAVING LIBERTY.

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You weaken the political will to do what it takes to win,

Define, "WIN".

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our boys are dying because of politically correct 'rules of engagement". With the media, democrats, and protesters doing everything they can to cause us to lose our boys still know BS from reality. The reality is if we lose there, the relgion of death(islam) gains a huge victory. You'd soon see bombs going off in a shopping mall near you.

I'd rather have my FREEDOM and LIBERTY and accept that RISK, than have secret prison, blanket domestic surveillance, losing the right to a writ of habeas corpus, and torture.

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Those that keep saying there was no reason to go to Iraq are of the same moral fiber as people that look the other way during a gang rape in a NY alleyway in the middle of the day.

What was the reason for, without informing Congress, diverting troops and funds from the properly authorized actions in Afghanistan? Looks like "Fraud worse than Enron" to me...

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 4:24:27 AM

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How many million more did Saddam need to kill before your 'rationality' could see the need to stop him?

Wasn't Hussain tried and executed for the deaths of 148 people?

How many Dead Iraqis did Bush's Invasion and Occupation cause?

a) 0
b) 148
c) 300,000
d) 600,000
e) No one will ever know, but it's a hell of a lot more than probably over (C).

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 4:26:40 AM

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You can tell NYC votes democrat.

Which is why the mayor is a Republican? Oh, yeah, Guillani was one, too... And that last Governer Pataki... Yeah, if it wasn't the Dims' turn in Albany he'd still be there.

Is your letting Bush and others slide on their commission of crimes, namely Fraud in violation of 18 USC 371, just as bad as letting any other crime go unprosecuted?

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 4:58:11 AM

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Whatever you are talking here, one thing that matters is: U.S. has lost the war. No oil for Uncle Sam!

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 6:39:32 AM

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But, rushing to cut bait, when we don't even know whats on the line, doesn't make sense to me, and is certainly a political agenda.

That is probably the most accurate description of almost everything Monkeyboy has done during his time in office.

Rushing to cut bait when he doesnt know what is on the line.

Thank you.

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I agree ... and also agree that two wrongs do not make a right.

We should do what we can to ameliorate the problems over there ... but we should do that with a bit more forethought than President Bush used when he got us involved in the first place.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 6:46:08 AM

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Farglebargle

I think you have WAY misunderstood the point of my post.

First of all - I have a VERY specific stand on the war. I have a very specific stand on my government, my country, and what is happening in it. However the point of my post was not to take sides in the political mudslinging that seems to happen equally during elections and political debates such as this one. I am not into name calling, accusations or blame laying. I am a studen of human nature. I am not afraid to take a stand or speak my mind when I find something worth saying. Those who listen much and speak little, learn much.

My post was simply to remind all of us that are swept up in political and emotional issues that while we are debating who's the bigger BS artist (in politics or the boards) people are dying. People are hurting, are suffering, are wishing that they were dead. I am so sorry that women ANYWHERE are being raped. It is true that the "rules of war" are no longer being followed and that some people are acting against the very codes to protect that they swore to uphold when they donned their uniform. I absolutely do not disagree with that. But - again, human nature seems to support the fact that this is not just happening in Iraq, but here in our country as well. Children are being raped by priests, police officers taking bribes and drugs . . . so much attrocity so many places. Is it offensive to you that anyone wants to look past the distraction tactics of the Bush theo-republic administration for one moment and reminds all of us that a 24 year old boy who stepped on a bomb tryign to rescue an iraqi SEVEN YEAR OLD from his own mother who held a damn knife to his throat is now walking on a fake damn leg for his trouble???? That this is "normal" or "what he deserves for following orders?"

Most of my friends in the military had no idea they would end up in a war. They signed up for a GI bill, went to school and ended up in another country dying, calling out for their mothers. Maybe they signed up for the wrong reasons - I do not have the right to judge them. Most of them I talk to do not believe in this war, they hate the killing, but they honor their commitment.

I am sorry if you think I was being cowardly by refusing to post my stand on the war here. My intention was not to join the mudslinging, or name calling. I do wish to say that it is unfair for anyone to discount someone's first hand experience as "hyperbole" I HAVE SEEN these men who have faced bullets and bombs and dying friends wake up screaming at night. I have woken NEXT TO them. I have had my throat seized by a submissive in the depths of a nightmare thinking I am sneaking up to kill him when I try to wake him. I am only commenting on my own experience. Because every persons experience has information inside of it

How you interpret that information is up to you.

And just for the record, I am against the war. I am against Bush and his war crimes. And I am for bringing our boys and gals home. I am also for fighting for our own country RIGHT here. I live in a place here in America where around me people are starving. I live in a place where people die beacuse they cannot get medical care, where jobs and money to buy food is scarce and most kids only eat once a day in school. I watch people sleep under bridges and in homeless shelters because billions of dollars are being spent to help those in other countries while OUR OWN PEOPLE are dying of starvation and disease and homelessness in a country that can engineer food. In my little spot of America, while all of you worry about war and politics and oil, I worry about whether my neighbor and her 3 children are eating, and I worry about whether or not I can make it one more month in my code violation, about to be bank repossessed rental house. (and don't give me any crap about being lazy, I work 2 jobs PLUS pro-domming and I eat once a day to be sure my daughter has 3 square meals. I have teeth rotting INTO my sinus cavity because I cannot afford to have them pulled)

I am against the war. Because here at home thousands are starving and dying too. But no one seems to notice them

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 8:46:46 AM

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MANY Vietnam vets do not support this war.

No one, excepting the Neocon Party Whore Cheerleaders, for whom supporting Bush is more important that Truth, Justice and The American Way supports the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Everyone else is somewhere between, "Just End It Somehow", and "We wanna see felony charges filed for this crime"...

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 8:47:27 AM

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Those that keep saying there was no reason to go to Iraq are of the same moral fiber as people that look the other way during a gang rape in a NY alleyway in the middle of the day.

Sometimes I am in awe of the inner workings of the Neoconservative mind, how does so much irrationality exist between two ears, all I can say is wow.

Standard liberalism is a mental disease symptom there. When confronted by reality resort to name calling because you have no arguement.

Please do explain how your protests, and comments which headline Al jazera TV and websites support our troops? How many million more did Saddam need to kill before your 'rationality' could see the need to stop him?

Let me guess you think Vietnam was wrong too? Get a head count of the dead (after the Americans left) in the gentle hands of your fellow liberals? 5 million dead between vietnam and cambodia. Good job on those protests!!

You protest the killing of murders while cheering the killing of babies in the womb and your calling conservatives irrational? Up the meds!

Yes, I concede, the vast majority of Americans that are antiwar are traitors to you and your ilk... you win! All of us that believed Vietnam was a fiasco are traitors! (I think I was about 4 when that conflict ended, but whatever)

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 8:51:31 AM

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But, rushing to cut bait, when we don't even know whats on the line, doesn't make sense to me, and is certainly a political agenda.

That is probably the most accurate description of almost everything Monkeyboy has done during his time in office.

Rushing to cut bait when he doesnt know what is on the line.

Thank you.

Sinergy

I agree ... and also agree that two wrongs do not make a right.

We should do what we can to ameliorate the problems over there ... but we should do that with a bit more forethought than President Bush used when he got us involved in the first place.

After almost 13 years in Vietnam, the military command and Nixon realized that they were stupid to have gotten involved in the first place and that there was nothing they could do to fix the problems because these predated our involvement in the region.

The last soldier on the chopper from Saigon took the flag.

Monkeyboy has involved the United States (illegally) in a region with problems that long predate our being there, Saddam being in charge, etc.

Yes, we were wrong to invade.

The point I am making is that when you open a can of worms, the only way to get them back in the can involves using a bigger can. I dont think the United States has the money, the military, the will, the drive, or the ability to fix the problem. Saddam was able to for the duration of his being in power largely because he was such a bloodthirsty and vicious tyrant who ruled with an iron fist.

How many people do we have to send to their physical or psychic deaths in that region before we realize it is broken and we cannot fix it?

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 8:56:15 AM

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I think an important lesson here is, "The Ends DO NOT Justify The Means".

It doesn't matter WHAT good may be done in Iraq, when Bush defrauded the United States in 2002, and used money and resources allocated for operations in Afghanistan in Iraq WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL, he set us up for failure, essentially because G-d hates us, because we're evil.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 9:16:38 AM

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But don't worry - nothing can happen today. The "First 100 Hours" is taking a time out. Seems as anxious as the new majority was to take power to get America back on track it won't happen today. It must have been at the bottom of their platform, but the decision was made to take the day off today.

Does anyone know why?

When you voted did you know this was a priority warranting a day off? Did anyone else in the country get a paid vacation day today?

Doubt this will be widely reported. "'Ya gotta luv um!" - they do live up to expectations after all. Setting priorities is one thing; action tells you better what the agenda will be for new congress. Must be an indication that the USA must be on the right course and there is no need for any quick radical change.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/8/2007 9:23:21 AM

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I would be wel linterested in seeing a link to that so I can find out why they took the day off, and since I am an independent it makes no hill of beans to me which side of the aisle screws up, I do not like either very well.

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