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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/7/2007 9:38:30 PM   
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Two of Shakespeare's Sonnets always caught my attention:





SONNET 57

Being your slave, what should I do but tend

Upon the hours and times of your desire?

I have no precious time* at all to spend,

Nor services to do, till you require.

Nor dare I chide the world-without-end hour

Whilst I, my sovereign, watch the clock for you,

Nor think the bitterness of absence sour

When you have bid your servant once adieu;

Nor dare I question with my jealous thought

Where you may be, or your affairs suppose,

But, like a sad slave, stay and think of nought

Save, where you are how happy you make those.









SONNET 58

That god forbid that made me first your slave,

I should in thought control your times of pleasure,

Or at your hand the account of hours to crave,

Being your vassal, bound to stay your leisure!

O, let me suffer, being at your beck,

The imprison'd absence of your liberty;*

And patience, tame to sufferance, bide each cheque,

Without accusing you of injury.

Be where you list, your charter is so strong

That you yourself may privilege your time

To what you will; to you it doth belong

Yourself to pardon of self-doing crime.

I am to wait, though waiting so be hell;

Not blame your pleasure, be it ill or well.

So true a fool is love that in your will,

Though you do any thing, he thinks no ill.

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/7/2007 10:13:43 PM   
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Those were beautiful!

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/7/2007 10:27:39 PM   
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I've always thought "The English Patient" by Michael Ondaatje has some of the most moving passages I've ever read.  (in fact, I just added one as my signature lol).

"We die containing a richness of lovers and tribes, tastes we have swallowed, bodies we have plunged into and swum  up as if rivers of wisdom, characters we have climbed into as if trees, fears we have hidden in as if caves. I wish for all this  to be marked on my body when I am dead. I believe in such cartography - to be marked by nature, not just to label ourselves  on a map like the names of rich men and women on buildings.
We are communal histories, communal books. We are not owned or monogamous in our taste or experience. All I desired was to walk upon such an earth that had no maps."


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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/8/2007 10:26:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: badlilthang

Once you familiarize yourself with the chains of bondage, you prepare your own limbs to wear them.
~ Abraham Lincoln~

-:Hellen Keller:-
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.

-:Ralph Waldo Emerson:-
Thou art to me a delicious torment.

I have not yet read this whole thread so if this has already been said...Well... I just said it again.
 
I am just curious as to why you see the above quotes as related to BDSM?
To me they are about totally different things.
 
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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/8/2007 7:19:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: brightspot

quote:

ORIGINAL: badlilthang

Once you familiarize yourself with the chains of bondage, you prepare your own limbs to wear them.
~ Abraham Lincoln~

-:Hellen Keller:-
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.

-:Ralph Waldo Emerson:-
Thou art to me a delicious torment.


I have not yet read this whole thread so if this has already been said...Well... I just said it again.
 
I am just curious as to why you see the above quotes as related to BDSM?
To me they are about totally different things.
 
Missy.


Once you familiarize yourself with the chains of bondage, you prepare your own limbs to wear them.
~ Abraham Lincoln~

The B in BDSM stands, to most people, for bondage. This quote considers bondage.

Mr. Lincoln was presumably not thinking about BDSM, but propositions can present more than one idea. When Armstrong landed on the moon, he spoke of a step and a leap. Those words may have been addressing the movement of a man's legs but just as surely they were addressing the movement of a species from one world to another.

Someone might quote the astronaut as that someone crosses the threshold into the room where his first BDSM experience is due to happen. In this way he shows us what the Neil Armstrong had to say about BDSM, whether or not Neil Armstrong knew it at the time.

In a similar way, someone may quote that snippet from Lincoln, where he spoke of unconsensual, economic slavery. In doing so she might find meaning for herself in terms of the consensual bondage of BDSM. Others may see it or may not, and that's okay, I think.

The really cool part is, whereas I have to drone on for paragraphs to get something like that said, somewhere there is a well-chosen quotation which could have expressed it in one breath.

-:Hellen Keller:-
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.

Some people try to manage their lives by seeking perceived safety and fleeing perceived danger. This might lead them away from BDSM generally, or result in a timidity which forbids them some of the rewards available in BDSM for others who will accept more risk.

This quote can be seen to encourage a kind of openess closely linked to honesty, as well as courage. These are two things which can deeply enrich the BDSM experience--or possibly get you killed, so what the fuck.

And by the way, if you substitute the word "love" for the term BDSM, that paragraph has just as much to say, and that quote from Keller speaks to them both.

-:Ralph Waldo Emerson:-
Thou art to me a delicious torment.

This quote, like the others, can be seen to speak to BDSM in any number of ways. Two strike me as prominent.

Think of a car guy, or a motorcycle guy, talking about his "sweet ride". He means his vehicle, of course, which may indeed offer a sweet ride down the road in the other sense of the word.

Words that work so nicely in very different but still related ways can do a lot of the heavy lifting in poetry. Picture a masochistic submissive reciting the Emerson quote to her sadistic dominant.

Thou art to me a delicious torment.
He torments her, and she finds it delicious.

Now picture the sadistic dominant saying the Emerson quote to his masochistic submissive.

Thou art to me a delicious torment.
He torments her, and he finds it delicious.
(kind of like boinking her and then calling her a sweet ride, get it?)

That there is a pretty versatile BDSM quote, in my book.


A hundred other people could find a hundred other messages about BDSM in each of those quotes. I'm not sure all one hundred of them post here regularly.

Finally--just exactly as you say--each of these quotes is also about totally different things. And those readings which came naturally to you should not, in my view, take a back seat to my readings or anyone else's. And most of all they should not take a pillion post to what we guess may have been intended by the author.

If I'm walking out of Death Valley dying of thirst and come upon an old hubcap full of water, I don't care what the hubcap's author meant, I'm gonna read that tin as a canteen. I'm not gonna carry it back to my car and hammer it on my wheel just because that's what the guy at Chevy meant. I'm gonna drink it dry and live.

I have the same policy toward literature.



P.S. If you swap that sweatshirt for a nice Moto Guzzi T, this kind of stuff will tend to come to you much more easily, brightspot.


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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/8/2007 9:13:09 PM   
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These excerpts from one of my favorite songs has always struck a chord that reminds me of submission, though the history of Roberta Flack's writing of it, had nothing to do with bdsm.


"I felt all flushed with fever, embarrassed by the crowd,
I felt he found my letters and read each one out loud.
I prayed that he would finish but he just kept right on ...

Strumming my pain with his fingers,
Singing my life with his words,
Killing me softly with his song,
Telling my whole life with his words,
Killing me softly with his song ...

He sang as if he knew me
In all my dark despair
and then he looked right through me
as if I wasn't there
and he just kept on singing
singing clear and strong
Struming my pain with his fingers
Singing my life with his words
killing me softy with his song
killing me softly with his song
telling my whole life
with his words
killing me softly with his song"



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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/8/2007 9:23:39 PM   
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I am too alone in the world, and not alone enough to make every moment holy.

I am too tiny in this world, and not tiny enough just to lie before you like a thing,

shrewd and secretive.

I want my own will, and I want to simply be with my will,

as it goes toward inaction,

and in the silent, sometimes hardly moving times when something is coming near,

I want to be with those who know secret things or else alone.


ranier marie rilke



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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/8/2007 9:39:12 PM   
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I love the Rilke quote.  The ee cummings was nice too.  But just to lower the tone (Hey, I say, go with what you are good at, fella):

"I haven't had sex in so long, I forget who gets tied up first."  -- tagline, Prodigy chat room, c. 1988

"Good girls go to heaven.  Bad girls go everywhere." -- Helen Gurley Brown

"Don't know where your g-spot is?   Get fisted!   You'll find it!"  -- Annie Sprinkle

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/8/2007 9:48:38 PM   
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just to show I haven't sunk too low:

GO, pytyous hart, rasyd with dedly wo,
  Persyd with payn, bleding with wondes smart,
Bewayle thy fortune, with vaynys wan and blo.
  O Fortune vnfrendly, Fortune vnkynde thow art,
  To be so cruell and so ouerthwart,
To suffer me so carefull to endure,
That wher I loue best I dare not dyscure !

One there is, and euer one shalbe,
  For whose sake my hart is sore dyseasyd ;
For whose loue, welcom dysease to me !
  I am content so all partys be pleasyd :
  Yet, and God wold, I wold my payne were easyd !
But Fortune enforsyth me so carefully to endure,
That where I loue best I dare not dyscure.

--John Skelton (At the insistance of a nobyll lady)


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"It's the same thing," he said.

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/9/2007 4:46:08 AM   
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I asked the question because the OP asked for BDSM qoutes, that to me means quotes people made overtly about BDSM not qoutes that other's may interpret as possibly being a BDSM qoute or quotes that trigger in themselves a familar feeling causing them to believe the author may have been speaking of BDSM in a covert way. Nor did I interpret the OP as asking others to post quotes they believe in fact are are BDSM quotes.
 
Noah your p.s. only shows your immaturity and mean-spiritedness.
Ya  Long-Winded Jerk!
 
Holla out to other Harley Davidson enthusiast's.
 
Oh and at least I have the courage to show my face!.... And to ask a question if I am confused with an answer or with what the OP was asking for. I was not asking it to be a smartass.
 
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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/9/2007 2:25:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: brightspot

I asked the question because the OP asked for BDSM qoutes, that to me means quotes people made overtly about BDSM ...
... Nor did I interpret the OP as asking others to post quotes they believe in fact are are BDSM quotes.

 


How's that again? (I ask this because I am confused with your answer, not to be a smartass)

quote:

...not qoutes that other's may interpret as possibly being a BDSM qoute or quotes that trigger in themselves a familar feeling causing them to believe the author may have been speaking of BDSM in a covert way.


Brightspot, I took care in my post to say that to me, your personal interpretation of anything is just as valid as mine. That would include your personal interpretation of the OP's question.

Presuming that you read and understood that the first time around, I'm gonna take your response as being in the same gentle spirit in which I offered my post, rather than suspect that there was anything defensive about your response. Further, based on the number of smileys in your post I'm gonna assume you enjoyed the little joke I tacked onto the end of my post (the one that referenced a kind of, you know, real motorcycle.) So ...

You're welcome.

Now here's hoping that some day soon you'll grace us with a sample of your own award-winning poetry. I'll bet there are some great BDSM quotes in there.

Fond regards

Noah

PS  We're all duly impressed with your courage, dear. Certain faces do take a great deal of courage to show.


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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/9/2007 2:51:48 PM   
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Here's mine....

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/9/2007 4:45:30 PM   
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Thank you all for the wonderful responses and great quotes. I will be hanging on to all of them. =^-^=

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/9/2007 7:07:46 PM   
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I just read the entire silly thread ( and there are some truely beautiful quotes in there) only to remember and be shocked that no one said:
'pain is weakness leaving the body'
and I really can't believe no one said:
'Sticks and stones may break my bones,
but Whips and Chains Excite me!'

We could always listen to some Nickelback, "Figured you out#

I like your pants around your feet
I like the dirt that's on your knees
And I like the way you still say please
While you're looking up at me
You're like my favourite damn disease

And I love the places that we go
And I love the people that you know
And I love the way you can't say no
Too many long lines in a row
I love the powder on your nose

Ooooh
And now I know who you are
It wasn't that hard
Just to figure you out
And now I know who you are
It wasn't that hard
Just to figure you out

I like the freckles on your chest
And I like the way you like me best
And I like the way you're not impressed,
While you put me to the test
I like the wine stains on your dress

And I love the way you pass the check
And I love the good times that you wreck
And I love your lack of self respect



While you're passed out on the deck
I love my hands around your neck

And now I know who you are
It wasn't that hard
Just to figure you out
And now I know who you are
It wasn't that hard
Just to figure you out

I love your pants around your feet
And I love the dirt that's on your knees
And I like the way you still say please
While you're looking up at me
You're like my favourite damn disease

And I hate the places that we go
And I hate the people that you know
And I hate the way you can't say no
Too many long lines in a row
I hate the powder on your nose

And now I know who you are
It wasn't that hard
Just to figure you out
And now I know who you are
It wasn't that hard
Just to figure you out




 
Oh yeah let's not forget:



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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/9/2007 7:34:45 PM   
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I've been collecting them myself, and you'd be surprised what you'll find just by going through the boards and checking peoples sigs:

"Never make anyone a priority who treats you like an option."
-swtnsparkling's CollarChat sig.

"Without my dominace you cannot submit. Without your submission I  
cannot dominate. You are my equal in this, though our roles are  
different." - My Beloved
--AquaticSub's sig.

I also found this story in someone's journal a while ago; it's very artful, in my opinion:

Olive Tree

A confused boy came before a wise Master who adored him. he felt that to submit to Him would mean he would open his heart to unbearable pain should He ever leave him. he hungered for Him and needed Him, but was ready to walk away in panic. The gentle Master knelt the boy before Him and started a tale of love and devotion. As the boy looked up at Him, His arms began to widen and open like a large tree stretches its branches to the sky. At that moment the Master appeared rooted to the floor and his impressive size towered above like a giant tree. Then He began to speak...

I'm here for you... now and always no matter how far time and space takes us... Whether you walk away from Me today or you stay and serve Me I will not turn from you. I am as patient as time itself; I will take not from you unless you give freely and completely of yourself, but I give unto you regardless -- for My love is UNCONDITIONAL...Like the olive tree that can both feed you and shade you, I am there seemingly eternal to your short life on this earth. If you need My fruit to feed your hunger I will give you all the fruit you need. If your skin grows dry and loses its luster, the oil from My fruit will restore it and make it glisten. When you need comfort My leaves will gently caress your face with the slightest breeze. When you need discipline My branches will correct you when the wind blows strong. If you just need My shade to protect you from the sun, My branches will shade and protect you. If you need warmth at night My fallen branches will fuel the fire to keep you warm and safe. If you need a refreshing breeze My leaves will fan you and cool you. You are My gardener. When you submit to Me, you tend that which keeps Me vibrant and full of life. When you kneel under Me and till the soil, you give breath to My roots. When you water Me, My sap flows strong raising My limp Branches. When you soil yourself collecting fertilizer with your bare hands, you strengthen and humble Me with your devotion.

Although My life will go on, life would not be the same without you. Your dedication and unconditional care for me keeps Me vibrant and nurtures My very core. The sustenance and protection I give you seems little reward for your servitude. Still the gardener serves the tree from his heart and the tree gives to his heart all that He can! I am planted firmly on the ground and cannot follow you if you walk away from Me.... But be assured I will survive. One hundred years later and two of your lifetimes; I will still be there, waiting for you in the same spot to offer you all that I do now. Stay with Me and be My gardener. you cannot get lost in Me for we are complementary to each other. I am your devotion, and you give meaning to My existence. Apart we live life and survive; together we bloom eternally! As the Master finished His last words the boy cried himself to sleep at His feet. That night, He stood planted there like the Olive tree offering him His unconditional love and protection as he slept. As he would tend to Him with his devotion the next day and everyday thereafter!

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/10/2007 1:14:00 AM   
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PS  We're all duly impressed with your courage, dear. Certain faces do take a great deal of courage to show.


Oh so that's why you've been here this long with-out showing your's, must be pretty damn frightning.
 
"Noah" instead of being a mean-spirited jerk-off why don't you go build an Ark or do something constructive instead of spending most of your lonely moments here at CM, taking cheap shot's at other posters?
 
Huggz, Missy.

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/10/2007 8:37:37 AM   
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"Ouch, that hurts!" comes to mind.

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/10/2007 8:46:00 AM   
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cloudboy: Yes! "Ouch, that hurts!" does seem appropriate.

P.S. - Please - let us all live in "peace and harmony", shall we? Brightspot: I truly don't think Noah was tyring to be mean-spirited, or personally insutling to you (I really do not). But - I grant you, maybe you'd have to have read many of his posts to know how he he relates to people, I think. I am almost dead -certain he believes anyone has a right to their own opinion, and have heard him say as much many times. 

- Susan

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RE: BDSM Quotes - 1/10/2007 4:23:30 PM   
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brightspot, brightspot, brightspot ... you poor fragile little flower, you.
I had no idea.

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ORIGINAL: brightspot

Oh so that's why you've been here this long with-out showing your's, must be pretty damn frightning.


Oh come on now. Don't you get enough of my face on the billboards and the magazine pages? I wouldn't wish to impose.

But seriously, why do keep insisting that I haven't posted my picture? If my avatar here isn't displaying for you, just hop over to the other side for a gander at my profile pic. I hope the artistic antique-ifying
hasn't thrown you off.  A great big girl like you shouldn't find my picture all that terrifying.

quote:

"Noah" instead of being a mean-spirited jerk-off why don't you go build an Ark or do something constructive instead of spending most of your lonely moments here at CM, taking cheap shot's at other posters?
 
Huggz, Missy.

You say "jerk-off" like it's a bad thing.

And now I'm lonely? 

Oh honey.  If you only knew.

If you only knew.

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, Missy, but the humor in these non-defensive responses of yours is getting subtler and subtler, I think.

Well, except for the cunning way you turned that face joke around and actually used it against me, like the redirection of forces employed by the finest Judo master. I'll bet that was the reason you set yourself up for that one in the first place.  ZING! GOT me!
And that Ark bit, which was uproarious, of course; the element of surprise being so important in humor.

Here's a little present for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke#Psychology_of_jokes

When you're done with that, and maybe after a couple of Midol-and-tonics, would you please look back to the post that seemed to get you all riled up in the first place? You asked a question which thousands of people on this site all seemed to think was just the perfect thing to ignore. I, on the other hand, took the time to craft an answer to it according to my view. I was very careful to explicitly endorse your view as well and even to explain with the hubcap metaphor exactly why I thought your view was just as valuable as mine, or the other posters', or the quotation author's, or anyone else's.

Did you really not understand any of that?

Or do you really hate it when people pay serious attention to your questions and endorse your point of view?

Or, last guess, here: is it that the rules of the Willie G. Decides What We Like club require that you go absolutely fucking haywire when someone tries to have a little fun with you? HINT: there was a joke in that paragraph. Experienced riders (I've ridden for decades, including two seasons for money; toured my ass off; do all my own work, etc) kid with one another about brand loyalty. Honest, Missy. 

But it is a motorcyclist thing. I know that some Harley People just don't get motorcyclist things. Did you know, for instance, that your favorite apparel and lifestyle accessory company makes half-way decent bikes, too?

In fact, did you know the U.S. Navy has just signed a contract for two hundred 2007 FXDWGs?  Word. Check GoogleNews if you don't believe me. And no one in Congress is complaining because extensive research and real-world testing has proved that the Wide Glides outperform any of the anchors the Navy is currently using.

So that's humor, Missy. Kidding around. For all I know you can ride rings around me all day long and that's fine. I wasn't attacking you. I was joking with you like I do with all the riders I know who don't have a gargantuan chip on their brastrap. And they kid right back, too, regardless of brand preference. Nobody drowns, nobody dies.

Relax, okay? If I had been trying to eviscerate you, you would have known it, I think. Grown-ups can kid a little. They can dish it out and they can take it all with smiles on their courageous faces, because grownups aren't so feverishly insecure as to get their pants all up in their crack when some stranger on the internet makes a little joke.

I'll take note of the extrordinary thinness of your skin and promise never again to treat you as an equal after today, but to instead coddle you oh-so-carefully ... if I'm ever tempted to respond to one of your questions again.  I mean if that's what you'd like.

Honestly, Missy. I treated your original question seriously, in a way that showed respect to the person asking, after which I made a little joke. Then when you went off on me I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt and keep it light.

Your "When in doubt, take offense" policy might be worth a little critical review.


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RE: hello - 1/10/2007 7:26:05 PM   
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