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syreena -> Pain Management (1/7/2007 1:00:22 AM)

There are many books and various techniques to deal with unconsensual pain but few articles and such to deal with consensual pain.  If there was to be a presentation on dealing with consensual pain what would you like to see it in?  How mentally and physically do you deal with consensual pain?  Are there certain things you do while receiving consensual pain to help you?  Are there certain things you do after the pain is received immediately and following that help you?

Please note:  i am a seasoned slave that does deal with consensual pain but was just curious how my fellow submissives/slaves deal with it.




Tikkiee -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 3:14:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: syreena

There are many books and various techniques to deal with unconsensual pain but few articles and such to deal with consensual pain.  If there was to be a presentation on dealing with consensual pain what would you like to see it in?  How mentally and physically do you deal with consensual pain?  Are there certain things you do while receiving consensual pain to help you?  Are there certain things you do after the pain is received immediately and following that help you?

Please note:  i am a seasoned slave that does deal with consensual pain but was just curious how my fellow submissives/slaves deal with it.

I don't 'deal' with it. I just let it flow.




bandit25 -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 3:21:48 AM)

I'm pretty much with Tikkiee.  I let it flow also.  Of course, for me, letting it flow is dealing with it. 




moftop61 -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 7:02:55 AM)

r u talking about mental pain or physical pain.  Since my Master is a sadist and i am definatly not a mascocist i have much experinece with physical pain.  I use various scenarios in my head where i am being tortured and i must take it for some greater good.  sometimes i am a martyr, other times a marathon runner, etc. 

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juliaoceania -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 7:22:41 AM)

I am allowed to respond to pain by crying out. Sometimes he insists that I not move a muscle, but I can say whatever I like. I cuss, I yell, I tell him to stop (although that does not mean I want him to[:D]). I deal with it however the mood strikes me. Sometimes I laugh.

I enjoy pain, sometimes I must endure pain I am not enjoying to get to the pain that I do enjoy. Sooner or later I will enjoy it in my experience. But then again I am a masochist.




velvetears -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 7:37:53 AM)

Headspace is very important as well - being "prepared" or put in the right frame of mind by his words can get me at least on the way to those feelings of deep submssion. Also, how the pain is delivered, how skilled the dom is, how in tune he is with your body can make a huge difference. 

Sometimes being tied can make you feel helpless and when you realize "there's no where to go" it can make that transition easier. 




onestandingstill -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 8:39:20 AM)

I think aftercare aftercare aftercare is the key for me to be able to take heavy pain without it hurting me emotionally or physically.
Knowing what to do after a scene like ice on the bruises, rubbig the bruses to prevent clots, and also warm ups all play a role in how much pain can be nflicted on me.
I would indeed buy a book that expressed comon things to do about the lingering effects of a scene & safety tips.
suzanne




daddysprop247 -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 9:47:53 AM)

how i "deal" with the pain depends on the situation. if it's a punishment, then there is no dealing with it..i just take it and suffer, because that is the whole purpose. during a physical punishment i am permitted to cry, which i will often do, but i must remain still and silent, which comes naturally for me anyway.
if it's pain that has nothing to do with punishment...say i just have to endure it for my Master or someone else's pleasure, or maybe i am being beaten to provide a physical release for my Master...in those cases i process the pain differently. i will usually sort of "zone out", and just leave the building, emotionally and mentally. it's almost like taking a numbing drug...i don't feel the pain so sharply as i would if i were "there."




junecleaver -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 11:24:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: syreena

There are many books and various techniques to deal with unconsensual pain but few articles and such to deal with consensual pain.  If there was to be a presentation on dealing with consensual pain what would you like to see it in?  How mentally and physically do you deal with consensual pain?  Are there certain things you do while receiving consensual pain to help you?  Are there certain things you do after the pain is received immediately and following that help you?

Please note:  i am a seasoned slave that does deal with consensual pain but was just curious how my fellow submissives/slaves deal with it.
 Breathing deep and closing my eyes.  Headspace is pretty much essential for me as is 'aftercare.'  I can get into the correct headspace on my own, but I always need help coming back down.




Zsuzsanna -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 11:31:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tikkiee

I don't 'deal' with it. I just let it flow.
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Same here. I tend to enjoy the pain, even when it hurts to walk I still enjoy it because I love what I did to be in such pain. I am usually a little sad when I am not sore anymore.

edited because I'm a retard.  :)




gypsygrl -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 12:27:11 PM)

I learned a lot of things about 'pain' and its significance when I was pregant and decided not to use pain killers during labor and delivery.  Depending on the kind of scene, I find myself using many of these same techniques.  Various kinds of breathing, finding a focus point (either internal or external) and fixating on that, relaxation and reinterpreting the 'pain' as something benign or useful are probably my favorite.  Using these techniques tends to make me very quiet and unresponsive to stimuli, so I try not to rely on them so much if I'm with someone who likes their partner noisy and twitchy and try to just feel the pain without doing anything and react spontaneously.  I've also learned a way to orgasm through pain which is fun. :)




Mercnbeth -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 12:35:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: syreena
...How mentally and physically do you deal with consensual pain?...


MOST of the time it is perceived by this slave as pleasurable...but then again, this slave is a masochist.[:)]
Master is a sadist who does not believe absence of pleasure on the part of the masochist that serves Him is essential for His pleasure, therefore this slave is allowed, nay, ENCOURAGED to enjoy the pain He inflicts on His slave.
the times when it is NOT perceived as pleasurable is when it is given by Master in the spirit of correction, which is a totally different headspace, and this slave deals with that by focusing on being grateful for Master's correction.

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Are there certain things you do while receiving consensual pain to help you?  Are there certain things you do after the pain is received immediately and following that help you?


permission to cum from it is the only assistance this slave begs of Master, and in the rare case of correction, this slave is allowed to cry.

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...just curious how my fellow submissives/slaves deal with it...


Master receives pleasure from it, this slave gets all hot and wet and orgasmic from it...and in the case of correction, this slave bears it, and it is OVER when the correction is done.  never really thought of it as something to "deal" with.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Pain Management (1/7/2007 1:42:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
the times when it is NOT perceived as pleasurable is when it is given by Master in the spirit of correction, which is a totally different headspace, and this slave deals with that by focusing on being grateful for Master's correction.


I am glad to see this clarified, as I so often see posts that talk about the inability to successfully physically punish a masochist.  I think such posts miss the point that it is the motivation behind an act which makes the act what it is.  My Master can slap the hell out of my face and it will send me whirling into space, hot as can be.  Yet he has slapped me in a corrective action before and it flattened me, causing me to cower at his feet.  Any time he is disappointed in something I've done there is no enjoyment whatsoever, but grief over causing him strife. Therefore he could probably just tap his finger on my shoulder and it would hurt!

I am finding the other replies interesting, also.  There was a similar discussion in Ask a Master not so long ago, in which I commented that finding my center was helping me to process pain more effectively.  I appreciate all posts about pain because they help me with this area of struggle for me.




syreena -> RE: Pain Management (1/8/2007 4:42:02 PM)

Thank you all for responding as i am looking for new ways to present this situation.  i am honored that you took time to write and let me consider your thoughts and emotions.




behindmirrors -> RE: Pain Management (1/8/2007 9:26:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: syreena

There are many books and various techniques to deal with unconsensual pain but few articles and such to deal with consensual pain.  If there was to be a presentation on dealing with consensual pain what would you like to see it in?  How mentally and physically do you deal with consensual pain?  Are there certain things you do while receiving consensual pain to help you?  Are there certain things you do after the pain is received immediately and following that help you?

Please note:  i am a seasoned slave that does deal with consensual pain but was just curious how my fellow submissives/slaves deal with it.


My tactic is typically (in every case, be it from an injury I recieve or when playing or being punished) to focus on the pain, acknowledge it, and experience it for what it is right then and there. When I do this, I think it alleviates one big portion of the experience of pain for me- being afraid of it. If it's an injury, I feel it, acknowledge it, and then check myself out to see how bad things are- going through the first steps clear my mind enough that I can rationally evaluate what my situation is and determine what to do next. When playing, I want to feel it- I don't want to block it out- and the same goes for punishment. I think of the motive behind it, I think of how it feels and I just let it happen.

I hope this helps-
behindmirrors.




syreena -> RE: Pain Management (1/10/2007 10:10:40 PM)

Thank you for taking a moment to reply.  you're response is very appreciated.  i will certainly consider your words.




ardelle -> RE: Pain Management (1/11/2007 5:19:12 AM)

greetings
 
from a personal standpoint, i find absolutly no pleasure in pain. Pain most often is associated with punishment. However, during the times that one must endure punsishment, it is expected that silence be observed. It is during this that i am encouraged to focus on the reason behind the punishment, and be grateful that Master has the strength to correct the wrong that has been done.




bacchas -> RE: Pain Management (2/28/2007 9:14:20 PM)

I have a breathing excersize one. Concentrate on your breathing, usually something like in through the nose out through the mouth. I'm not as big into pain as some are so I use this one. Although if my concentration breaks I'm in for a world of hurt.




StellaByStarlite -> RE: Pain Management (3/1/2007 5:41:37 AM)

Hello. =)

This is a great thread for me right now, because I'm discovering that I'm not really a physical masochist, but my owner has sadistic tendencies.

I personally like to envision myself as a noble sufferer, offering up my pain almost in a spiritual sense. It makes me feel heroic, somehow, lol.

There's a term called " masochismo" I ran into a few days ago. anybody familiar with that concept?


Cheers,
Stella




littlespicyone -> RE: Pain Management (3/1/2007 5:42:54 AM)

Just knowing that my Dominant is enjoying hurting me does it for me. I give the pain and my cries and my tears to Him as a love offering. I find that yogic breathing makes it easier for me to bear; when I get all riled uo, it hurts more. Also, if I stay relaxed it's easier ... but there's some flogging that is like a massage and it's easy to relax then.The Sadist who flogs me now that I'm without an owner likes to bring the flogger down vertically on my back so that it leaves a trail of pain along my shoulder blades, I imagine myself with wings and it makes it easier to bear as well.




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