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LaTigresse -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 11:56:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: shamedmale

im 100% with you on this one onestandingstill, if you excuse the pun your bang on the money when you say that its better to give money if you want to to a charity and not to a selfish bitch. Thats bang on the money for me. There are too many dommes out there who are conniving bitches and pure greedy.  Their greed is fuelled by their manipulative behaviour in getting men to pay them ridiculous money BUT and this is a huge money if enough men said no to them or paid them just token tributes , they would NOT be so demanding.  Why?  They would know they could only get so much, whereas NOW there is no limit a woman asks for $1000 and the sub gives it to her no questions asked no wonder there are so many demanding greedy manipulative dommes out there. They can get away with it and are screwing men every way because they get away with it. If enough men stood up to them and said NO and meant it they would soon become less demanding


Michael is that you?




shamedmale -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 11:57:15 AM)

next time it happens mate ignore the person and if she hassles you about report her to the appropriate authorities, it s harrassment and whether its man or woman no one has the right to harrass you or take anything that is yours PERIOD




shamedmale -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 12:02:19 PM)

The woman in question was obviously heartless she didnt care about you or any other male slave all she wanted was money. In my opinion she wanted to break you and have you living on the street. She  is not worth thinking about and you were right to take issue with her. You will get your dominant lady mate. Trust in God and the lady of your dreams will come to you. She wont be over demanding and she will respect you as a person. A lot of dommes both male and female unfortunately dont. But as for the money grubbers shut them out of your mind, they are only out for themselves. And your dead right, DONT beggar yourself for anyone man , woman, Queen, or Femdom ruler or Empress.  At the end of the day slave or no you are a human being not an ATM machine, the woman of your dreams will realise that, the rest are not worth thinking about, they laugh at you behind your back and just want to break you
take care
shamed




brat4u -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 12:11:57 PM)

i agree shamed liars and players come in all kinds though,  i have found out that some men just call themselves Doms.  All subs/slaves should be treasured...not just used althought some peeps get off on being used and fall into the rut of running into the same type of people to be topped over and over again by that same type of  person i find is/ and can get tiring.  But, after a "live and learn" type relationship  there is always a lesson to learn, that way i find that i rise above the crappy relationship or "player Dom"          




Chakota -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 12:13:07 PM)

Brafox...When you go to a gunfight armed only with the belief you are invincible, your chance of emerging victorious is slim indeed. Stop complaining and move on.




Celedane -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 12:36:13 PM)

I agree with Chakota, it's really about personal responsibility.  If you wish to give money to any top simply because they demand it, you already know what kind of person they are.  You allow yourself to be used to your own limits.  And if you meet someone that is selfish and out to use people, you leave yourself open to that.  So if you wish to learn and move on, next time, know that you have the right to not give anything to anyone simply because they are a 'domme/dom/etc'.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 1:00:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: demistress
you contacted a domme with the intention of getting into a financial domination relationship and then were displeased when she demanded money from you for the time invested in talking to you?
GET A LIFE!!!!
I think the OP is someone who wanted to discuss his gripe with some women he's met on the net, and contrived it with lame yahoo messenger story, than later added she was mad because I wouldn't give her money.   Sounds like BS to me at this point, particularly since he apparently had no problem telling her he is a financial slave, giving her $1000, but the additional $200 broke the camel's back... 
His profile sounds like a man who knows what he wants and won't be manipulated to what he doesn't want. 
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Ladies, I can be the kind of sub that gives myself completely to just one Domme, but to own me completely, it will take some work on your part.
He actually sounds like a man who approached me messenger a few days back saying he's young, adores my type, and wealthy and can afford me as an opener and figured that would give him carte blanche for online jerkoff material from me.    I asked him how he knew my price, told him to go find some other sucker to get his wanking material from, and blocked him.

Than there's the case of Shamedmale who is thrilled with this thread and obviously has a huge hard on because he's been given a thread to spew his anger and hate about whatever issues he seems to be suffering from.
Good luck boys,   [sm=crop.gif]   M




FelinePersuasion -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 1:18:32 PM)

What I want to know, is how come all the new subs on the scene, seem to have no sense to think for themself at all.  I see more and more people asking is it ok to think for myself, is it ok to refuse advances from strange dominants, do I have to submit to the first person who says to.

What ever happend to using your mind.




onestandingstill -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 1:39:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

What I want to know, is how come all the new subs on the scene, seem to have no sense to think for themself at all.  I see more and more people asking is it ok to think for myself, is it ok to refuse advances from strange dominants, do I have to submit to the first person who says to.

What ever happened to using your mind.

Hi Feline,
I'm a smart girl, but indeed was led to permit unhealthy decisions being made for me too when I was new and naive.
I think it comes from not understanding what's yours to control as a person vs what rights you give up to be a sub/slave.
It's very confusing as when you ask ten people they all have different answers from each other as to how a good slave/sub conducts themselves.
That coupled with your desire to be found pleasing leaves you open to suggestions you're not a real sub unless _______.
It's mostly peer pressure I think, and unrealistic or romantic expectations that the Dom/Domme has your best interest at heart and won't harm you.
suzanne




shamedmale -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 1:50:22 PM)

I have no issues though some people in my country are moaners
God bless you
shamed





shamedmale -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 1:52:04 PM)

what ever happened to good honest to God decency and compassion for others
blessings from ireland
shamed




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 1:57:13 PM)

Why do the angriest people in the world seem to be invoking God's name so frequently?   
Your profile is incredibly funny... So are you single or owned?   No, I'm not trying to pick you up, especially since I'll expect all of your person and stuff without asking. [sm=preen.gif]  M




shamedmale -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 2:08:56 PM)

your profile says deranged , i think that sums it up, you need psychological help
take care
shamed




shamedmale -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 2:27:09 PM)

not unlike most people here you are full of contradictions you object to me invoking God yet you list Christianity and Catholicism as things you tolerate. hmm  i wonder who started these churches




drawntothedark -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 2:38:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: shamedmale

your profile says deranged , i think that sums it up, you need psychological help
take care
shamed



If we are gonna start ripping profiles.......care to explain yours? Looks to me like your little "public punishment" is a cry for other Dommes to come- a- runnin.

To the OP......no one can make you do what you don't want to do. Period!




shamedmale -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 2:44:13 PM)

i was referring to BlkTallFullfig, I am glad that you list Christianity as one of the things you live for and respect you enormously as a person for that. However my profile is my own personal business and i do not wish to divulge. I would be extremely grateful if you did respect that
God bless you  and your family
shamed 




shamedmale -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 2:46:41 PM)

have to go , see you tomorrow
God bless you and yours
shamed




LadyEllen -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 2:59:30 PM)

shamedmale - I seem to remember you coming in here, pissing and moaning a few months back on another thread, and I thought after our little conversation on that thread that you'd understood that it does you no good?

You can make your point without throwing insults about like you have here, at people you dont know, for goodness' sake. You've picked on two very popular members as it happens, who regularly offer sound advice to all - not to make your point (which was a reasonable point though poorly made IMO), but for some reason known only to you it seems. Whatever the reason though, it tends to undermine your point when you do that.

E




Celedane -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 3:19:26 PM)

I don't know shamed, but his intent seems to be to cause divisiveness, and to seek negative attention.  We were talking about a sub's rights, now the thread has moved to focus on shamed.




MistressSassy66 -> RE: Being a submissive, do we have any rights? (1/8/2007 3:45:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: shamedmale

your profile says deranged , i think that sums it up, you need psychological help
take care
shamed



That deranged has nothing to do with profile and everything about posting in the threads.The more you post the more deranged you get.





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