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Amaros -> RE: Pain Slut? (1/11/2007 5:18:30 PM)

I think if you understand a little better why you like it and how much you like, you might be better able to judge whether  your prospective dom is on the same wavelength or not - unless that takes the fun out of it for you or something.




whisperedsighs -> RE: Pain Slut? (1/11/2007 5:20:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Fawne

hi whisperedsighs

You now have many excellent answers.

Now you need to find out your own answer. Weird, obtuse statement?

Nope. You do know the answer. It is "I don't know".

Please choose someone who can respect that you are not looking to find out allinonenight, because you need to be able to trust, be and feel safe and have time to process all of your feelings.    There is nothing wrong with not knowing all the answers and inner riddles inside you. That's why they say "it is a journey".

Good luck and have fun!


I love weird and obtuse questions and answers!!! 





daddysliloneds -> RE: Pain Slut? (1/11/2007 5:57:35 PM)

well, since i have specifically stated in my profile that i am a masochist, not a pain slut, then i'll give you my take for an answer...

first of all, i don't 'interview' doms, or am i 'interviewed', by them...

i meet dominant men for casual conversation and coffee; neither one of us is looking for a job with or for the other, so it's easy to go into detail about what we consider to be areas of confusion, such as 'pain slut' or 'extreme sadist'...

i'm a masochist, i like pain, i get off to pain, i need pain to release most of my stress, and i can sexually cum from pain without any sexual play at all; sometimes the pain is my sex, sometimes it's combined with sex...

i don't need to be beaten black, blue and bloody to enjoy the pain; i can take a lot of pain when it's built up and gradual, but come wailing a whip on me without warm-up and i'm a big cry-baby pussy...

i've always considered pain sluts to be the ones who need to have nails hammered through their breasts, and other such  extreme measures in order for them to feel release or content...

i'm a slut and i like pain but  i am a masochist, not a pain slut! i've yet to have anyone not be able to understand my meaning in less than five minutes of conversation with them, so for me, my definition of pain slut has always faired well.




Amaros -> RE: Pain Slut? (1/12/2007 6:08:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: whisperedsighs

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Pain triggers endomorphins, which are also released during sexual activity - not hard to see how pain can become addictive, and/or associated with sex - endomorphin receptors are the same receptors that are keyed by heroin, and the reason heroin is so addictive. It's conjectured that a lot of athletes are endomorphin junkies, weightlifters, long distance runners, etc.

In any case, the distinction between endomorphin release through extreme stimulus or everstimulus, and crossing the line into trauma needs to be understood by the dominant party.

I believe there is a psychological aspect to the administration of pain, that may be related, or may be an entirely seperate thing: something similar to Stockholm syndrome for instance may well be at work on some level in the power exchange relationship, bondage, etc., and that may involve seretonin levels and operate on another level entirely.

One or both of these reactions may also be at work in objectification/humiliation play, or even another process entirely, but what does seem clear is that there is some psycho/physiological "reward" involved for the bottom, and it's not necesarily indicative of "low self esteem" or some other psychological issue.

In any case, it might be easy to mistake these hormonal responses for a purely psychological "need" for abuse in a less discerning individual, and thus a diminished ability to "read" the responses of the bottom and go too far, i.e., overindulging sadistic compulsions over the line and into abuse - it certainly happens pretty frequently in Vanilla power exchange relationships that cross into dysfuntion, although I think it probobly something more experienced doms develop a more finely tuned "feel" for.

I hope this helps you guide your inquiries more effectively.


You mean endorphins don't you?


You might be right, I found one reference alluding to the use of "endomorphin" as obsolete; although if you google both terms there appears to be more entries under "endomorphin", suggesting that it's usage is still widespread, and it's the term I'm used to, but then I'm not in the biz.

"Endorphin" has two fewer letters and saves time typing I suppose.




Amaros -> RE: Pain Slut? (1/12/2007 6:10:57 PM)

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i've always considered pain sluts to be the ones who need to have nails hammered through their breasts, and other such  extreme measures in order for them to feel release or content...




slavesrs -> RE: Pain Slut? (1/12/2007 11:50:26 PM)

To The Op,
 
In my experience a pain slut is one in which they like to : 1) Have there pain level pushed all the time. 2) Have a need and desire to feel pain. 3) Get off on it in a sense that it is orgasmic. 4) It is a form of meditation, it makes them feel alive.
 
I know the last one may be a tad silly but that is the way I feel when I am going through sever pain. I tend to sleep afterwords and like a baby to boot.




Amaros -> RE: Pain Slut? (1/13/2007 12:39:17 AM)

Not silly, the shamanic expeerience is all about te immolation of the self - nothing reminds one of the self quite so much as pain - thus to rise above it is to partake of the divine. It isn't the method quite so much as the result.




SlaveSubtoserve -> RE: Pain Slut? (1/16/2007 5:54:25 PM)

To me it means one enjoys regular, semi-continuous pain exchanges with your Domme of many varieties and modalities and levels  ---- at least my definition of me- though i never liked the term slut but.....and not necessarily the bloody variety as i know many who consider themselves ps' but still avoid certain extremes as i do= more sort of an on-going daily p exchange for fun, punishment, discipline, whatever.......




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