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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 10:18:33 AM

Missokyst

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I am reminded of my sister-in-law, with the statement below. When we were both young, I was changing my second child who was about 6 months old. My sister-in-law had just had her first daughter who was a week old. During a diaper change, she told me, OMG that REEKS as I changed my daughter. She stated HER baby never made such an awful stench.

Having had a child before I kept quiet. I knew what was in store.

Sometime later we got together again for a family thing and she had to change her baby who was around 6 months.

<g> Mine was potty trained by then.

I said OMG What reeks! I thought you said your baby never smelled like that!?

She blushed a little and didn't say a thing.

It is amazing what kinds of lessons are learned in life with experience.

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" I " feel that the people that looked down on me for my feelings and thoughts are the ones that are truly closed minded.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 10:28:09 AM

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putting "i feel" before a bigoted statement does not make it any less bigoted. That's a cop out. Having opinions such as yours is fine, but you would be wise to learn to keep them to yourself. At least that's what i feel.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 11:21:57 AM

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" I say what I think and I say what I feel; always" that is the motto I live by and if one cannot and will not accept it or respect it then that is there problem and not mine.

With Regards;
SRS

My only comment to you is on your statement above. You will find as you grow up that there will be countless times where you have to choose between always saying what I think and feel and practicing some grace, dignity, discipline and self control in expressing those thoughts and feelings.

We may have the freedom of speech in this country, and encourage people to communicate their feelings, but we also have to face the consequences of those actions.

In most jobs, even when you are the boss, you will likely be held accountable for saying inappropriate things, or saying something at an inappropriate time. You may find yourself unemployed.

If you ever find a Dom/Master you wish to submit to, he isn't likely to just smile and pat you on the head if you don't practice grace, discipline and self control in your relationship with him. Sharing with him that you are feeling an overwhelming desire for him to bind, gag and beat you is one thing, but blurting it out in front of his Mom, Dad and the rest of the family at Thanksgiving dinner is likely gonna be a whole 'nuther story.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 1:54:29 PM

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xtremely poor

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nettiquette smettiquet if the mods don't care she started a new thread who're you to tell her what's " extremely poor netiquette " or to do or not do it again.

The same guy who politely tells people to stop yelling on a croweded bus. There's no excuse for poor manners, in any public setting.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 2:19:13 PM

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...You will find as you grow up that there will be countless times where you have to choose between always saying what I think and feel and practicing some grace, dignity, discipline and self control in expressing those thoughts and feelings.

Brava! Well said!

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 3:29:05 PM

adaddysgirl

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SRS,

i see by your profile that you are bisexual. So what if i came on here and stated 'bisexual people disgust me because that is not the natural order of things....and females should only be with males and males should only be with females' ?

First of all, what type of reaction do you think that would get from the bisexuals on here and those who don't agree with my statement?

And secondly, wouldn't you feel somewhat insulted by my words?

And would saying 'that is just my opinion and i can say whatever i want' make it any better to express it that way?

Sure, you have the right to your opinion but you might want to think of the effect you have on people who live in a way you find disgusting. It seems you could have found a more tactful way to present your opinion, doesn't it?

BTW....on one of the 'fat threads' some time ago, a male poster said 'Obese people disgust me'. my first thought was 'how rude is that?' i mean, really, was it necessary to state something that way? Needless to say, my opinion of him dropped dramatically. So wouldn't that sound insulting if you are overweight?

i realize you have apologized here but as long as your response keeps including 'that's my opinion and i can say what i want' then somehow the apology just doesn't sound very sincere. Now all of this is just my opinion of course

Daddysgirl

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 3:37:23 PM

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To adaddysgirl

If you wish to "bash" gay and/or bi-sexuals that is your perogative and not mine, I take no offense what so ever. My opinion is my opinion and that's that. If people are going to be so uptight and get there shorts in a knot then so be it. It was simply an opinion.

P.S.

As for the fat comment I also don't take any offense. As I said "Everyone is intitled to there own opinion and that there is no right or wrong anwser."

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 4:08:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: slavesrs

To adaddysgirl

If you wish to "bash" gay and/or bi-sexuals that is your perogative and not mine, I take no offense what so ever. My opinion is my opinion and that's that. If people are going to be so uptight and get there shorts in a knot then so be it. It was simply an opinion.

P.S.

As for the fat comment I also don't take any offense. As I said "Everyone is intitled to there own opinion and that there is no right or wrong anwser."

If I said that "In my opinion men that try to control women are lacking in integrity and should be in jail, especially is they think they own a female, because women need freedom". You might have an emotional reaction to that statement. Since you are not probably not bisexual in that you have had a romantic long term relationship or gay, it probably does not matter much to you what others say about gay people. Kinda comparing apples and oranges if you ask me

(BTW I love dominant men, was just using that as an example)

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 4:09:08 PM

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Ah, i see SRS. Then you should obviously take no offense at others' opinions of your opinion, right? So simply put, i find your opinion of male submissives disgusting....and that is just my opinion. Probably not the best tactic to use when trying to 'win friends and influence people' but you are responsible for your own reputation here. Fair enough.

BTW....i will look forward to your responses on other threads. i think i will find that interesting.

DG

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 4:25:20 PM

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"Everyone is intitled to there own opinion and that there is no right or wrong anwser."

Just because everyone can express an opinion doesn't equate to there being now right or wrong answer. In fact in some cases... opinions can be dead wrong... and sometimes opinions can be dead right. Also, some opinions can be enlightening and insightful expressions of thought and feelings... on other occasions some opinions can be full of prejudice and stupidity. The value of an opinion is in the eye of the beholder.. a rather subjective endeavor to say the least.

Frankly... I hold no value to your opinion expressed in the Slaversrs Rant and I am beginning to develop an opinion of your behaviors on the forums that is less than positive.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 4:25:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

My only comment to you is on your statement above. You will find as you grow up that there will be countless times where you have to choose between always saying what I think and feel and practicing some grace, dignity, discipline and self control in expressing those thoughts and feelings.

We may have the freedom of speech in this country, and encourage people to communicate their feelings, but we also have to face the consequences of those actions.

Very well said !! The ripple effect...
Brings to mind another quote i like:

"Don't talk unless you can improve the silence"
Jorge Luis Borges

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 5:11:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: slavesrs

"Everyone is intitled to there own opinion and that there is no right or wrong anwser."

Just because everyone can express an opinion doesn't equate to there being now right or wrong answer. In fact in some cases... opinions can be dead wrong... and sometimes opinions can be dead right. Also, some opinions can be enlightening and insightful expressions of thought and feelings... on other occasions some opinions can be full of prejudice and stupidity. The value of an opinion is in the eye of the beholder.. a rather subjective endeavor to say the least.

Frankly... I hold no value to your opinion expressed in the Slaversrs Rant and I am beginning to develop an opinion of your behaviors on the forums that is less than positive.

I actually can't grasp this one. I hatethe Mexican food menudo. The smell and taste of it makes me physically ill. I find it one of the most disgusting foodstuffs imaginable. That is my opinion based upon my taste and preference. How can this opinion be wrong to me? An opinion reflects the tastes or feelings of the individual, and therefore can never be wrong in that regard. Many people love menudo, and that is their correct opinion. Even other people are indifferent toward it, and again this is their opinion. The woman stated her opinions on matters that many find controversial, but that gives no one the authority to tell her that her opinion is wrong. I prefer cats as pets, others prefer dogs. Does this mean that I am wrong in my preference? Should all dog and cat lovers team up and tell snake lovers that they do not have the right to hold such an opinion and choose either a cat or a dog? Should we flame the profiles that are searching for a specific race? After all, they are presenting their profile for everyone to see and subjecting everyone to what could be called a racist bias. And what about those people that are seeking a specific gender? How dare they have such a sexist opinion put up for all to see! Those foul, narrow minded heterosexuals really need to quit subjecting us to their intolerant bias.

See, you don't flame the things that can be construed as intolerant as long as you agree with them. But you snap and bite like a pack of lapdogs whenever someone says anything you wish to disagree with . Waving the banner of self-righteousness you march proudly in the ranks of the morality corp, never glancing into the glazed windows of shop fronts to see the blackened soot of hypocrisy smeared upon your faces.

So, just who are really the intolerant ones here? And like everyone else here, this is just my opinion.

< Message edited by aSlavesLife -- 1/13/2007 5:31:05 PM >

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 5:22:39 PM

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Think what you want of me. I really don't care. Just because I had expressed my opinions,feelings and thoughts does not make me a bad or horrible person. Yes, I may have said it in a crappy way and could have said it better. Next time I will be more considerate as to other peoples feelings. But what is said is said and what is done is done and I cannot change it nor will I sit here and dwell upon something I said or did.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 5:30:19 PM

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. Just because I had expressed my opinions,feelings and thoughts does not make me a bad or horrible person.

Correct... it's not the expression of an opinion that will equate a person as being bad or an horrible person... it's the content and/or value of such an opinion. I think the reactions to the content of your opinion speaks volumes to it's value and affect it will have on peoples view of you.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 6:04:37 PM

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Opinion "The holocast never happened"... sometimes opinions are expressed that just defy facts .. should we label them as right for that individual? No.. Some opinions are just Wrong.

Opinion "Women are the stupid"... sometimes opinions are expressed in absolutes that only one exception will make the opinion invalid. Somehow I suspect I can find one woman that is smarter than me.... ok maybe alot woman.

Yes there is situations that opinions are expressed that are just wrong... and sometimes they are just right.... They also can be expressed in a manner that denotes a preference that is subjective to the personal tastes of an individual. But just like a person has a personal preference opinion.. so do others and they will conflict. The right or wrong will be in the eyes of the beholder.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 6:22:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

Opinion "The holocast never happened"... sometimes opinions are expressed that just defy facts .. should we label them as right for that individual? No.. Some opinions are just Wrong.

Opinion "Women are the stupid"... sometimes opinions are expressed in absolutes that only one exception will make the opinion invalid. Somehow I suspect I can find one woman that is smarter than me.... ok maybe alot woman.

Yes there is situations that opinions are expressed that are just wrong... and sometimes they are just right.... They also can be expressed in a manner that denotes a preference that is subjective to the personal tastes of an individual. But just like a person has a personal preference opinion.. so do others and they will conflict. The right or wrong will be in the eyes of the beholder.

Therein lies the problem. Opinions are not facts. It was once the opinion of many that the world was flat, and that opinion was taken as fact. But the opinion stated by srs does not overlap into fact. She did not say that male subs sicken her and are a bilogical abomination. Had she said that, her opinion would have been treading onto the grounds of fact, and could be considered wrong. But her stating that she finds them distasteful is no more wrong than a profile saying " No Men! ", one saying " Caucasians only ", or one saying " single hetero female only ". All of these are opinions based on preference, and all do convey biases, albeit biases that most people choose to ignore. We have no more right to deny her this opinion than we do to deny a lesbian her opinion. Or are you suggesting that lesbians need to lay aside their biological compulsions and personal taste in order to conform to your idea of what is right?

Just to be safe though, I will write my one lesbian friend here and ask her how many posters on this thread have written her to tell her how narrow minded she is for finding the thought of sex with a man disgusting.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 6:28:13 PM

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To adaddysgirl

If you wish to "bash" gay and/or bi-sexuals that is your perogative and not mine, I take no offense what so ever. My opinion is my opinion and that's that. If people are going to be so uptight and get there shorts in a knot then so be it. It was simply an opinion.

P.S.

As for the fat comment I also don't take any offense. As I said "Everyone is intitled to there own opinion and that there is no right or wrong anwser."

I doubt anyone has their shorts in a knot over you, dear. I bet most of them think your a child who has a lot of growing up to do, but shorts in a knot. Nah, not happening.

Oh, and when you change your name next time, you might want to get a new pic...people on here are pretty quick to spot things like that.

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 6:33:00 PM

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Think what you want of me. I really don't care. Just because I had expressed my opinions,feelings and thoughts does not make me a bad or horrible person. Yes, I may have said it in a crappy way and could have said it better. Next time I will be more considerate as to other peoples feelings. But what is said is said and what is done is done and I cannot change it nor will I sit here and dwell upon something I said or did.

You are right - what is said is said and what is done is done - the fact that you realize you could have expressed yourself with more diplomacy and consideration of others means you have learned from your original post :-) i would not dwell on it ; move on with concientiousness...

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 6:45:33 PM

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I guess.. you read more into what I say than what I actually say. Maybe you should actually stay within the context of what I actuallly state.

I am not stating or making a judgement of slavesrs specific opinion express with regards to submissive men disgusting her.

I am making a statement with regards to her statement that their are no right or wrong opinions. If she wants to make an opininon with regards to it's a "Man's World" then she is entitled.. but that is not the point of my post.

your right opinions are not Facts... However, countless times facts are expressed as opinions... and the opinions are express defy facts.

For example... "It's a Man's World" it could equate to a preference. However, one must determine on what basis that opinion is expressed. What if the basis of the opinion is that it's a Man's world because Men on average make more money than women. Or... Men are able to vote and women are not. The basis of the opinion orginates from a fact that can be proven or disprove. or the opinion could be based on just a preference. In one case.. it could be denoted as accurate... since studies do show that Men do make more money on average.. of course... the disparity is closing and "Man's World" is becoming smaller. However, if it's because men can vote and women can not... then this is an opinion based on an inaccurate fact.. since in the western world women can vote. Of course... is some cultures I do believe this still applies.

Secondly... no one is saying or suggesting she be denied her opinion... anyone is able to have as many brilliant or stupid opinions as they are able to. People however are expressing their opinion of her opinion. And if she can't stand the heat...well get out of the kitchen. Stop hiding behind silly mantra's such as no wrong or right opinions. Stand up be counted... State your opinion... and take the consequences for it.

Oh yeah.. my opinion of what you shared on this thread.... below par and of little consequence to anyone's growth or understanding except that you express intolerance for people not being tolerant to others opinions.... Just how tolerant is that. oh the irony of it

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RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant - 1/13/2007 7:24:07 PM

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Oh yeah.. my opinion of what you shared on this thread.... below par and of little consequence to anyone's growth or understanding except that you express intolerance for people not being tolerant to others opinions.... Just how tolerant is that. oh the irony of it

Your opinion of what I have shared on this board is noted as just that, your opinion, devoid of fact. As for it bearing little consequence on personal growth, I am curious to know how the venomous hostility presented to the girl has benefited anyones personal growth unless their idea of expansion and growth encompasses spewing nasty comments at anyone that disagrees with them. This is not the first time this has happened on a thread. Often time that someone expresses a view contrary to that of the majority, the person is swamped by hostile responses, regardless of how politely the person expresses their opinion. The community here in general will slam the door in the face of anyone that disagrees with them after tossing hot coffee in their face. Is this very tolerant? Are the masses so afraid of ideas contrary to their own that they resort to verbally beating the person into silence? If so, then maybe their views are so weak that they cannot withstand any opposition.

Is it intolerant of me to point out people's hypocrisy on this? It is politically correct to allow some biases to slide. It is PC to give gays their choice, for instance, and those that deny them this choice are called hate mongers. But people have decided that if it doesn't fall under the PC umbrella, it is fair game for attack. This breeds the hypocrisy present on these boards, as not only do the rabble assault anything that isn't PC, but they also attack with zeal anything not covered by political correctness. My exposing this is not me being intolerant. It is calling a spade a spade. If you want to advance someones personal growth, sometimes you have to nudge them in the direction of that growth. Petty and hurtful attacks of a person's opinion just because it doesn't conform to that of the herd is not a growth direction that I would want to give endorsement to. But that is just my opinion.

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