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slavesrs -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 8:02:31 PM)

ASlavesLife
 
Very well said. The only one that actualy has anything positive to say rather then bash and put down as most have done. Indeed I must say I am enjoying your responses as I sit back and watch people go on and on about the same old thing.



dawntreader -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 8:07:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slavesrs

ASlavesLife
 
Very well said. The only one that actualy has anything positive to say rather then bash and put down as most have done. Indeed I must say I am enjoying your responses as I sit back and watch people go on and on about the same old thing.



Then you have not read all the posts in their entirety...



MistressSassy66 -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 8:14:20 PM)

First of all you need to spell correctly its Entitled to their own opinion.
And speaking of opinions...My opinion is that your opinion doesnt mean squat to Me.
Why...because well...I'll just keep that opinion to Myself.

Edited to add that just because its My opinion doesnt mean its right or wrong...



gooddogbenji -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 8:23:55 PM)

YAY!!!  Drama!!!!

That having been said, why is every one of them Canadian????  Seriously, FFS, can't the Americans have any people like this?

I mean ones they don't elect, of course.

Yours,


benji

PS:  Minorities, women, and other mentally retarded groups disgust me and should all be raped and burned.  Just an opinion, of course, until I make it fact.



MagiksSlave -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 8:27:25 PM)

Ok listen for a moment... You are entitled to your opinion just as we are all intitaled to yours. But what right do you have to come to a boared dedicated to these people that you beleave are so wrong and bash them.. This is our safe place you comeing here and stateing your opinion in my opinion is wrong its like going into a church and bashing christ (ok extreme example but same idea)

why say something that you KNOW is gunna insult most of the population of this site?!?!?!?

Magik's slave



KnightofMists -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 8:28:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

If you want to advance someones personal growth, sometimes you have to nudge them in the direction of that growth.


and sometimes one must slam the door in the direction they are going.  slavesrs started this thread for the reason to apologize for the manner which she expressed her opinion.  I am sure some took exception to the content of the opinion, however some was also offend with it's manner.  She learned... and I suspect she will consider the ways she express her opinions more carefully next time.  I also suspect that some would like her to reconsider the content of her opinions.  Frankly, I don't care one way or the other.  Her opinions will in time evolve with experiences ... her current opinion may not change alot.  But, instead of submissive males disgusting her.... she just might become more Tolerant of peoples different choices in life.  Then again maybe she will not.

Now on to my opinion... you right... there is no actual fact.... in fact... I made a outlandish opinion that an actually be proven Wrong by simple asking if any has grown or was enlightened by what you stated (which is a growth of consequence).  It is therefore logically possible that my opinion (devoid of fact as you say) can be proven wrong.  And thus support my arguement that opinions can be right or wrong or neither.

thanks for playing



slavesrs -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 9:25:13 PM)

Well again I thank all for expressing there opinions. However, I am done with this.
I have other "opinions" I would like to mention but I will do so at a later date, or perhaps not. Depends how "I" feel [:D]
 
 



MistressYlwa -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 9:28:06 PM)

I will accept your apology, as I was offended. However, I do think you knew exactly what you were doing, when you made the post. And you got exactly the response you expected to get.
 
As to gooddogbenji
quote:

Minorities, women, and other mentally retarded groups disgust me and should all be raped and burned.  Just an opinion, of course, until I make it fact. 

I find it strange that someone who is looking for a mistress would make a comment, such as this, in the public forum.
 
Mistress Ylwa



KnightofMists -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 9:31:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressYlwa

As to gooddogbenji
quote:

Minorities, women, and other mentally retarded groups disgust me and should all be raped and burned.  Just an opinion, of course, until I make it fact. 

I find it strange that someone who is looking for a mistress would make a comment, such as this, in the public forum.
 
Mistress Ylwa


I suspect that if you read and new his posting style you would not be so surprized.  Just roll up a newspaper and smack him on the nose and he will be good.



slavesrs -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 9:33:44 PM)

Mistress Ylwa,
 
Thank you, I am glad that you accept my apology. I did indeed know what I was saying, however I do realize it was "how I said it" that was very rude and offending. As I did mention. I will be more considerate of other peoples feelings and sensitivitys.



adaddysgirl -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/13/2007 10:13:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

Therein lies the problem. Opinions are not facts. It was once the opinion of many that the world was flat, and that opinion was taken as fact. But the opinion stated by srs does not overlap into fact. She did not say that male subs sicken her and are a bilogical abomination. Had she said that, her opinion would have been treading onto the grounds of fact, and could be considered wrong. But her stating that she finds them distasteful is no more wrong than a profile saying " No Men! ", one saying " Caucasians only ", or one saying " single hetero female only ". All of these are opinions based on preference, and all do convey biases, albeit biases that most people choose to ignore. We have no more right to deny her this opinion than we do to deny a lesbian her opinion. Or are you suggesting that lesbians need to lay aside their biological compulsions and personal taste in order to conform to your idea of what is right?

Just to be safe though, I will write my one lesbian friend here and ask her how many posters on this thread have written her to tell her how narrow minded she is for finding the thought of sex with a man disgusting.


Doesn't it seem there's some type of difference between a personal preference and making a judgment on another person?  A lesbian saying in her profile 'men only' isn't the same as saying 'all men disgust me', is it?  If someone prefers a white partner, that's not saying 'all other races are disgusting', is it?   It seems there's a way to express preferences and/or opinions without causing insult, isn't there?  Or don't you think that's possible? 
 
Would you go on the poly forum and state 'poly people disgust me' (even if they do)?
Would you go on the gor forum and state 'gor people disgust me' (even if they do)?
Why would you?  (And by you i mean anyone, not you in particular.)
And saying in your ad that you do not prefer a poly or gor relationship is a bit different than going about it in the above manner, isn't it?
 
There is something called discretion and really, not only for those the comments are directed against, but for yourself as well.  And using such discretion only speaks favorably for the poster.   And really, saying 'i am disgusted by male subs' is pretty much the same as saying 'sub males are disgusting' which again, sounds pretty judgmental to me....whether it's an opinion or not.
 
DG



Calandra -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/14/2007 1:45:12 AM)

I couldn't have said that better Myself.... How do you always phrase things so well?



gooddogbenji -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/14/2007 2:37:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressYlwa

As to gooddogbenji
I find it strange that someone who is looking for a mistress would make a comment, such as this, in the public forum.
 
Mistress Ylwa


I was kinda trying to point out that even an opinion can be wrong, bigoted, and offensive, which you actually proved.

Unless you're saying it's a fact...... [sm=lol.gif]

Yours,


benji



orfunboi -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/14/2007 7:48:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressYlwa

I will accept your apology, as I was offended. However, I do think you knew exactly what you were doing, when you made the post. And you got exactly the response you expected to get.
 
As to gooddogbenji
quote:

Minorities, women, and other mentally retarded groups disgust me and should all be raped and burned.  Just an opinion, of course, until I make it fact. 

I find it strange that someone who is looking for a mistress would make a comment, such as this, in the public forum.
 
Mistress Ylwa


I'm not a bit surprised, but I have read enough of Benji's post to understand. He really is a good dog once you've gotten to know him, but be careful, I've heard he's lifted his leg on a shoe or two.



MistressYlwa -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/14/2007 8:54:20 AM)

Seems gooddogbenji has a reference. lol   Am sure that I am not the only one who was offended by his comment. However, will now know that I should not give anything he says credence.
 
Mistress Ylwa



thetammyjo -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/14/2007 8:59:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavesrs

ASlavesLife
Very well said. The only one that actualy has anything positive to say rather then bash and put down as most have done. Indeed I must say I am enjoying your responses as I sit back and watch people go on and on about the same old thing.



I replied to the other thread you started, slavesrs, and asked why you posted at all.

I think your above comments reveal an answer.

You posted as you did not to express an opinion or get a discussion but so you could sit back and enjoy the turmoil.

Very sad.



Aine -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/14/2007 9:45:29 AM)

The main thing that I'm noticing that is being argued on both sides of this is...

People have every right to their opinions.  I definitely believe that.

People are going to read them ("hear them") however they are going to hear them, whether it be reading them only how "they" want to read them or whatever.  That's something I've resigned myself to.

Which in turn means that people are going to respond to them however they see fit.

I don't agree with people throwing insults.  I agree with people that are putting their own versions of their opinions and beliefs out there.

Yes, emotions got a little hot.  That's to be expected. 

I'm glad to see that you've managed to glean from the masses that there might have been a better way of saying how you feel in a way that doesn't make everyone feel that you're pushing your ideals on them.

That's something that I've been working on most of my young adult life because I believe in being as diplomatic as possible when sharing ideas.  Makes things easier and a lot less stressful when discussing things.

Though I find it interesting that you just wanted to "hear" other's opinions rather than having a discussion. It's definitely something different around these parts, most of us are here for the conversation and debate.  It's part of what helps us grow in our own ideas and beliefs.

Part of where I think people are also rankled about your approach in the boards aside from the stuff that has already be made blatantly and not so nicely clear...is that you aren't responding to anyone (aside from the one person who seemed to agree with you on any level, or at least not completely challenge you).  You aren't making any kindof argument on your side aside from your right to have your opinion.  I find that very interesting.  Considering that I'm one that -loves- a good debate.  [:D]

And another thing on how people read things the way they want to.

Eh, I'm resigned to it because it's something that has been a bit of a challenge for me for many years.  People tend to take me the wrong way (And I'm working on that whenever I get the chance), and I'm trying to come to compromise within myself.  Feed people what they want to hear, versus (like those that flame me for my comments) say screw the world and say whatever I please.

I hate hypocrisy.  Unfortunately, there are times when we as humans are between a rock and a hard place when it comes to hypocrisy when talking about how to say things.  People like to flame others for saying what they feel what that same group of people fight tooth and nail to be able to say whatever they effin please because it's their right.  I call things how I see them, I try to be as diplomatic as I can stomach, but what are ya gonna do, right?

Do it one way you're fucked on one side, do it the other and you're still fucked. (But that's not always a bad thing, now is it? [;)])

I definitely appreciate your apologies, though I wish you might have stuck around and defended your place and made a debate of this whole debacle.

Welcome back to the boards.  [:D]



darksdesire -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/14/2007 9:54:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavesrs

ASlavesLife
Very well said. The only one that actualy has anything positive to say rather then bash and put down as most have done. Indeed I must say I am enjoying your responses as I sit back and watch people go on and on about the same old thing.



I replied to the other thread you started, slavesrs, and asked why you posted at all.

I think your above comments reveal an answer.

You posted as you did not to express an opinion or get a discussion but so you could sit back and enjoy the turmoil.

Very sad.



That is how it seems to me as well.  It can give one a nice sense of power to throw out a strong, offensively rotten meaty statement and then watch in enjoyment as all the wild dogs tear it apart. 

I don't know.  I value tact, consideration, and sensitivity and have a difficult time understanding why someone would feel a need to toss such an obviously hurtful comment into a group of people in which it is obvious that some will be offended.   The only reason I can see is to have fun watching the kinds of reactions the comment elicits.  That is a little sad.



gooddogbenji -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/14/2007 11:27:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressYlwa
However, will now know that I should not give anything he says credence.
 


That seems like the best policy, at any rate.

Yours,


benji



zumala -> RE: In Regards To Slavesrs'S Rant (1/14/2007 1:13:54 PM)

I tend to simply not comment when things get heated.  As my hubby is fond of saying, this discussion is "generating more heat than light".
 
That said, I'm only posting so I can tackle benji. [;)]
 
zuma 



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