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Slave's pet - 1/12/2007 10:30:36 PM

damia

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Okay, i'm not sure how to put this. All right, i read about a slave whose Master gave her a 'male pet' (her words). i wondered, does that make her a switch, or is it kinda like someone getting their wife a dog?

This has got me so confused, because don't only doms or switches (who are being dominant) have 'pets'? It read like she was a 24/7 slave, but with a pet...how does this work??

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RE: Slave's pet - 1/12/2007 10:37:33 PM

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I've often wondered about this myself. My speculation is that the slave is an alpha slave and the pet will be a secondary slave subordinate to both master and the first slave. I use the term alpha as a matter of convenience, to denote a primary or first slave. Historically it was not uncommon to find a slave in a position of supervision or limited dominance over another slave or group of slaves, so a pre civil war plantation slave that was delegated the duty of overseer to a workforce of other slaves could be seen as an alpha slave. Still owned, but imbued by virtue of his owner with the power to discipline other slaves in a limited degree.

This is of course only speculation on my part, and I am eager to hear other interpritations.

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RE: Slave's pet - 1/13/2007 8:36:53 AM

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The only way to really know is to ask HER. He could be just a sexual playmate, he could be submissive to her. Even though labels make things easier to grasp in our heads, who really cares what label that makes her? And, remember, what we do does not necessarily define who we are...so just because she's a sub doesn't mean she can't Top. Some label that as switch, some label that as good sex.

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RE: Slave's pet - 1/13/2007 8:50:09 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: damia

Okay, i'm not sure how to put this. All right, i read about a slave whose Master gave her a 'male pet' (her words). i wondered, does that make her a switch, or is it kinda like someone getting their wife a dog?

This has got me so confused, because don't only doms or switches (who are being dominant) have 'pets'? It read like she was a 24/7 slave, but with a pet...how does this work??

You know, there's so much confusion about roles within the community. We much too often want to clearly define what is what. Most slaves I know would never dream of topping anyone and are just happy with their role and station as slave. Some slaves, whether completely submissive or not, may have Doms who for whatever reasons want their slaves to top others...Some Doms have households whereby alpha slaves top beta slaves and so on...also, and here's a groovy twist - not all slaves are actually submissive. I know that's a hard one to wrap your brain around, but it is true. I know of a slave who is in a service position, but who does not consider herself submissive - she simply chooses to serve. And then, there are all the people who identify as switch, but also choose to live a life as 24/7 slave. There may be all sorts of reasons why a Dom would give his (or her) slave a "pet." Perhaps we should try to open ourselves more to the various possibilities this lifestyle has to offer.

MNN

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RE: Slave's pet - 1/30/2007 1:24:53 PM

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i will throw my hat with MistressNoName.

For a community that wants to consider it isn't "pressured" by "vanilla" or "mainstream", we certainly seem to have a lot of unwritten rules, and when someone varies ever so slightly, we call foul, or at the least ask for it to be defined within those rules.

It's like how some people go to church on sundays, and some on wednesday night, both doing their thing, their way, with a common thread. And when someone decides "i'll stop in on a thursday night" (i know, good luck finding a church open in this day and age), we all stare at them like they're crazy.

Best way is to ask the person(s) in question. And, possibly avoid any labeling or stereotypes ^_^ We all know how those suck OUT-side this little community, just do your part to limit them -in-side ^_^

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RE: Slave's pet - 1/30/2007 2:05:57 PM

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hello all

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RE: Slave's pet - 1/31/2007 8:02:52 AM

LordVelvet

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I would have to agree with MasterFireMaam. As long as all parties are on the same page and having fun why does it matter? What/Who they are to the outside world probably doesn't matter to them so why should we care? Just a thought.
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RE: Slave's pet - 2/1/2007 6:46:48 PM

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While I agree that it doesn't matter so much as long as everyone is having fun, I do understand the need to quantify, classify, catagorize, etc. Some of us do it to understand others and ourselves. In any event, I love the idea that it is like getting your wife a dog. I laughed so hard at that, and I'm not quite sure why. I think it could be like that. It could also be as others have suggested and really only those playing know for sure.

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RE: Slave's pet - 2/5/2007 2:40:15 PM

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This thing about labels has got to go. There are too many flavors of personality in the world to use ordinary words.

For example, I would like to walk into an AA meeting and say a few things. OK, I drink beer every day. I do not get drunk, but I just don't drink soft drinks anymore and have actually stopped drinking coffee. Distilata, milk, beer and sometimes real juice.

So I would walk in there and say I am alcoholic, I certainly am by their standards. I would say it freely, but I would not sat that I AM an alcoholic.

Put one way it is a condition, the other way it is a label. In that particular venue, some of them want to be labelled. Really. They want to be seen as sick and unable to help themselves. I am different. I generally do not utter the words 'help' and 'me' in the same sentence. I have a similar aversion to the words 'promise' and 'I'. Keeps me out of trouble.

I could envision the games of a D/D/s/s trio. I wouldn't mind being in the middle of it. Charged with training another with what I was taught. Not really so much into the 24/7 thing, but it might float my boat.

I think it would be fun, to make a long story short (too late ?).

T

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RE: Slave's pet - 2/14/2007 2:17:48 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: beltainefaerie

In any event, I love the idea that it is like getting your wife a dog.

There are profiles on CM that specify that they are looking for a third to please one partner or the other and that third person will be submissive to both. Really not that uncommon. Just browse the dominant couples profiles...

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RE: Slave's pet - 2/14/2007 2:50:38 PM

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"It is also common for people to switch with different partners, such as when a person acts exclusively as a top with one partner and exclusively as a bottom with another." -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch_%28BDSM%29

Hope that helps you some....

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RE: Slave's pet - 3/26/2007 9:24:14 PM

dogthing

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quote:

ORIGINAL: beltainefaerie
While I agree that it doesn't matter so much as long as everyone is having fun, I do understand the need to quantify, classify, catagorize, etc. Some of us do it to understand others and ourselves. In any event, I love the idea that it is like getting your wife a dog. I laughed so hard at that, and I'm not quite sure why. I think it could be like that. It could also be as others have suggested and really only those playing know for sure.

I guess it gives the sub a hobby and something to keep them occupied when their dom is at work or doesn't want to be bothered with them. A live-in sub who isnt lalowed much outside contact might get bored sitting around the house all day, a pet that they have to look after might take the edge off things.

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RE: Slave's pet - 4/5/2007 10:38:21 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: damia
this has got me so confused, because don't only doms or switches (who are being dominant) have 'pets'? It read like she was a 24/7 slave, but with a pet...how does this work??

This works because people don't think of themselves as labels. Because we are malleable and changable. Hpow does it work? She has a gift which she is now enjoying and doing what she wants with it. Without owrrying what she now calls herself. She's living her life without the constrictions of the boxes. Fluidly. so maybe now some would call her a switch. Oh well. It doesn't matter really. I don't get too confused about how others choose to live their lives, I'm not sure it's worth the energy.

Oh and a 24/7 slave can still be a switch.

Those terms are not in my mind mutualy exclusive. I know slaves who are quite sadistic and enjoy the opportunity to hurt another. Plenty of them. Free. Your. Mind.

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RE: Slave's pet - 4/6/2007 11:00:17 AM

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Big fat nerd that I am, I immediately thought of the scene in Gods of Mars where Dator Xodar was stripped of his rank by the living goddess Issus and condemned to serve John Carter as the slave of a slave, the worst humilliation she could think to bestow upon him.

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RE: Slave's pet - 4/6/2007 11:54:05 AM

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This is familiar to me. I submit totally and completely to my Master... BUT... I do top some submissives when an opportunity presents itself. Master has no interest in a male sub, and has allowed me to "own" one from time to time (especially during the summer when I need a LOT of pedicures and general foot care).

It all depends on the relationship. Nothing works all the time for everyone.

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RE: Slave's pet - 4/20/2007 1:29:54 PM

RoninTyger

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NO MORE LABLES!!!!! just do what makes you happy.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

This thing about labels has got to go. There are too many flavors of personality in the world to use ordinary words.

For example, I would like to walk into an AA meeting and say a few things. OK, I drink beer every day. I do not get drunk, but I just don't drink soft drinks anymore and have actually stopped drinking coffee. Distilata, milk, beer and sometimes real juice.

So I would walk in there and say I am alcoholic, I certainly am by their standards. I would say it freely, but I would not sat that I AM an alcoholic.

Put one way it is a condition, the other way it is a label. In that particular venue, some of them want to be labelled. Really. They want to be seen as sick and unable to help themselves. I am different. I generally do not utter the words 'help' and 'me' in the same sentence. I have a similar aversion to the words 'promise' and 'I'. Keeps me out of trouble.

I could envision the games of a D/D/s/s trio. I wouldn't mind being in the middle of it. Charged with training another with what I was taught. Not really so much into the 24/7 thing, but it might float my boat.

I think it would be fun, to make a long story short (too late ?).

T

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