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When accidents happen - 1/13/2007 3:42:00 PM   
sweetsurrender22


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Hello everyone. I'm hoping some of you can give me some input from a domme's perspective.

A short background: My Mistress and I are still both fairly new to the lifestyle and as is the case with everyone I would imagine, there is a lot of trial and error involved, but all in all, things are going very well.

A few nights ago however, we were in the middle of a scene when things went very wrong. I won't go into exact details, it's not relevant, but I ended up with a few injuries (nothing too serious). It was all a total accident and neither of us could have done anything to prevent it, it was just a complete and utter fluke.
Since then however, my Mistress has been having a very hard time dealing with it all. She blames herself (I certainly don't) even though it was not through any fault of her own. She was either irresponsible, nor misjudging or anything like that. We have disussed this at great lengths and while she knows on an intellectual level that it was just one of those things, emotionally she doesn't seem to be able to get past it. I feel so helpless because I want to just move on and put this behind us (it really wasn't a big deal to me) and really wish I could understand what was going on in her head (but she doesn't seem to know either!) and help her.

Has anyone had any similar experiences they would like to share? Any advice on how I could help her?
Thanks
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RE: When accidents happen - 1/13/2007 3:55:05 PM   
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It's nearly impossible to respond without knowing what kind of accident occurred. 

Burned skin from wax that was too hot? 3rd degree thru 1st degree burns can and do happen if one is a novice at waxplay.
Broken skin from a whip? Cuts, breaks in the skin, severe bruising can easily happen with one misfall of a whip. 
Canes can and do lay flesh open to the bone. 
Needle play, nick an artery?
Knife play, blade slipped?
Ropes that were bound too tightly cut off circulation perhaps?
CBT resulted in swelling?

Unless you are much more specific, one can neither begin to address your concerns nor offer any constructive suggestions.

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/13/2007 4:05:28 PM   
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Thank you for your reply. It was far more mundane than any of that. I really hadn't thought it was relevant, but I see your point.

It was a freak accident involving the dining room table collapsing whilst I was tied to the top. I ended up with pretty severe bruising but nothing more. Like I said, nothing either of us had any control over (and the table had always been sturdy enough up until then).

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/13/2007 4:18:16 PM   
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That's really not so different than a singletail that lays open a piece of buttock because My hand slipped.

BDSM is no different from anything else:

PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT!

Tell your Mistress that I suggest She pick Herself up, dust Herself off, and start all over again.  Seriously.

...And be sure to thank Her for being so deeply affected by such a mishap.  Not every Domme you meet would take it so hard, even though they should.

It sounds to Me as though you have an attentive, sensitive, serious Domme in the making.   Accidents happen to the best of us.  While they are always traumatic, to some degree, they are rarely insurmountable.

It always helps Me to hear a sub tell Me that he loved the pain and the "train wreck", whatever it might have been.  Perhaps YOU could help Her with that.

Next time, I'll bet She tests the table before tying you to one.

There will come a day when you will both look back on the event and laugh!

Good luck to you both,

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/13/2007 6:01:59 PM   
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Of course she is taking it very hard -- that is part of the stuff that tops must deal with. We can't control everything but we often are taught that we should. Taught may not be direct, it can be what we pick up from non-fiction and fiction, especially poorly written or unrealistic stuff.

My advice is to give her space. Don't push it because you are bringing it to the forefront of her mind. If she wants to scene again, great, for now do little things together and be sure you are expressing the fun you have when you do it. Again, don't bring this stuff up but be open to talk about it if she wants to.

The only cure is repeated practice and seeing that things can go smoothly. She needs to feel though that she has some control so try to go at her pace.

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/13/2007 11:17:01 PM   
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Your Mistress needs to learn that sometimes Mr Murphy and his laws will want to play too. I don't think there is a single top alive that has not had an oops.

There's a joke that says if you mess up doing knife play, you just move on to needle play and sew it back on. The point is no one is perfect. You can't honestly expect never to miss, miss judge something or over look something. Experience and education are the tools we use to minimize the mistakes, but mistakes will happen.

Wait till she finds an emotional trigger..... I guess by her response she has hit one of her own emotional triggers.

You learned you need a stronger table. You both learned you need to think things through a bit more. Bottom line is we really don't like hurting the ones we love. She got scared. She'll need some time to heal.

Have her talk with some experienced Top's. We all have our scenes gone wrong stories. I believe Jay Wiseman wrote a book of people's scene's gone wrong.

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/13/2007 11:24:03 PM   
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During one of my very first experiences domming about 8 years ago I made a minor mistake and cut someone ... not terribly, but he bled a small bit ... it was a learning lesson for me.  It taught me to be more aware of what i was doing and to test things out before I went ahead and did it.  I felt awful about it and cried, thinking it was the end of the world.  But, I moved forward and just learned to be more careful about what I did and to this day (even though I am now a slave to my Dom) I still get overwhelmed and happy when people tell me I have been their best session ever ... I credit it to learning from my many mistakes.


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RE: When accidents happen - 1/13/2007 11:45:10 PM   
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One of our first "oops" moments was actually not really involving the boy at all - Holly and I moved badly with relation to each other, and she nearly broke my nose.  I sat there and cried for about 10 minutes from the pain ... then it passed, she got me an ice pack, and of course, the whole time, the boy was laying there tied down wondering what in the hell had happened.  We learned that day to be more careful about each other LOL

It will take time, but she will move on, I'm sure.  Give her the time to do so.

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/14/2007 12:17:16 AM   
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Thank you all for your posts, it's good to get an insight from the other side.

I think the thing that's bothering me most about this is that Mr Murphy really did decide to play. I can't seem to get my head round the fact that she feels so bad over something she has no control over, but therin lies the crux (and the reson I'm a sub heh).

We've had a few things go long before, either because of a mistake on her part or on mine. In which case we were able to discuss it, learn from it and move on.

So I guess it's the idea of something happening that is beyond your control that's the main issue?

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/14/2007 12:27:19 AM   
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According to many sources (not credible ones, of course, but still), Dominants are NEVER supposed to not be in control - EVERYTHING that goes on is under their control, so if ANYTHING goes wrong (and it's not obviously someone else's fault) it's the Dominant's fault ... even if it should be obvious that it was beyond anyone's control ...

Of course, it's not true, but depending on what kind of environment she originally learned about the lifestyle in, it may have been beaten into her head until she can't get past it even though she knows better.

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/14/2007 8:45:36 AM   
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I think it's more than just an issue of feeling lack of control.  As my sub's Mistress, I have the ability to cause discomfort, but in a loving way.  While the things I do to him might be painful or humiliating, I would never want to cause harm, physically or emotionally.  When an accident happens during a scene that results in unintentional injury, it can be difficult for the dominant to process.  I once slapped my sub but was a little off on my aim and hit his ear.  I felt really bad about it, and it took me a while to get over the incident because I didn't want him to lose trust in me as his Mistress.  He was very supportive and communicated that he never lost trust in me, and we were able to move past it all.

Best of luck to you,
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RE: When accidents happen - 1/14/2007 9:02:06 AM   
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When i first read this topic i assumed by boy had opened a new profile and posted this himself!!!!
Its a relief to see other people have it too!!!   I made an oops, I handled it badly, a lot of it was becasue i was still in my crazy space when we were relaxing down after the session and i went from feeling euphoric to suddenly very small and vunerable and sad.  I will casue him discomfort, i love challenging him with some mild pain but i never want to hurt him in a bad way.  As a domme i felt terrible, I instantly cried and couldnt talk to him about it for ages.  I felt i had let myself down and him, i worried he would be scared to play with me again  or that he would flinch if i went near him.  It took me a few days /week to get my head straight about it all.  Now i look at it like this,   I love him and he knows that.  Accidents will happen iI cant help that, i can be more vigilant and try and be more aware at all times.  Although I hold a lot of repsonibilty i am only human and im no less a domme for havin an oops. 
I dont know about your mistress  but to me when i play with my boy i see no room for error, errors undermine my confidence and make me judge my abilities,  its upsetting when things go wrong but its what makes us better dominants in the end i think,  it stops us getting complacent and sometimes gives us something funny to think back on.
I hope she is feeling better about it in herself soon.

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/14/2007 11:08:35 AM   
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re: beyond Her control or yours:

I once attended a Dark Party (extreme fetish party for interested members of a BDSM group) in Austin, Tx. 

I attended w/My then sub husband and a sub male in training. 

We knew all of the attendees and were very familiar with and comfortable with the party's host. So comfortable, in fact, that I was encouraged to bind and flog the sub in training with my sub hubbie in attendance to give a demonstration.  

Considering  all of the other sessions going on at the time that involved activities MUCH more hard core than flogging, our simple little activity generated an inordinate amount of interest and observers.  I assume this was because I was the only Domme in attendance; at that point in time,  one pretty much had to travel to Vegas or New York to find a r/t Dominatrix.

I was so engaged in My own demonstration and in gauging the reactions of both sub and observers that I didn't hear the front door crash downstairs when Vice Squad broke into the home and began slapping handcuffs on everyone in sight. 

Fortunately for us, the local Vice team was sorely lacking in numbers when they made their 'bust'.  A runner came dashing up the stairs warning us to get out: ropes were cut off the bound sub, floggers were dropped, equipment left where it lay, and we all beat a hasty retreat out to the balcony, down the stairs, and across the neighbors' estate next door.

We waited in the dark clumps of twisted Austin scrub oaks until things died down enough for hubby to go get our car. 

We'd arrived rather late, and luckily our car was on the next street over from the residence and happily was not included in the subsequent run on license plates. 

We made it home safe and sound, none of us any the worse for wear.  We suffered no personal or professional consequences after the raid, since we had not been associated directly with the event and since our friends who HAD been arrested remained staunchly moot about their guest list.

The emotional and psychological fallout lasted for decades thereafter, though.

I carried around the burden of imagining my sub in training having been arrested that night for a long, long, long time.

Thereafter, I became MUCH more private, MUCH more cautious and even paranoid about attending private group activities where things would be beyond My immediate control.

Even today, decades later, I find myself checking doors, windows, exits, and I find myself watching for any signs of disgruntled neighbors, or any indication of blacked out vehicles lurking about in the dark....even for something as simple as a special interest group meeting about bondage in someone's home.

I've had My share of little BDSM mishaps, but none that compared with that one  near brush with incarceration.

Your Mistress will eventually accept that there was not much she could do to mitigate the circumstances of a faulty table....TammyJo's suggestion about doing small things together and giving Her some space reminded Me of how my sub hubby and I got back on track after our Vice Squad fiasco.

Good advice. Follow it.

TexasMaam





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RE: When accidents happen - 1/14/2007 1:31:05 PM   
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if anything, you owe her a new table

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/14/2007 2:55:42 PM   
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again another post saying "thank god i'm not alone".

during my second session with my boy, first time with a strap-on by me, i inserted it and i could practically see the stars he felt his reaction was so severe. it wasn't the act of the strap-on....it was that in foreplay the previous night, i had thought my finger has sufficient lube, and inserted it...i apparently did not, or something with a fingernail, and caused a very tiny tiny tear...enough that he felt it when going to the bathroom the next day (but didn't tell me) and enough that when it was stretched by the dildo it was horribly painful. he forgave me, right away, (after he got over the pain) but i was distraught...I thought I ruined the entire session, his trust, the mood, everything. it did for a little while because i was so upset and crying. He couldn't understand why I was so upset.



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RE: When accidents happen - 1/14/2007 7:04:34 PM   
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Much ado about nothing...

New table with more sturdy legs and move on.

I'd have a good laugh and go about it. 

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/16/2007 4:48:36 AM   
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quote:

if anything, you owe her a new table
But it was my table.

I'm away on busines at the moment, but will be back home tomorrow, hopefully things will be a little more back to normal by then. Thank you all for your input, this is interesting reading.

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/17/2007 11:33:26 AM   
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Well things happen- i've had a couple of accidents happen to me over the years and one way to mitigate is to understand one's own joint responsibility in these things--- so its not all on her= next time you can both check the table ahead of time!

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RE: When accidents happen - 1/17/2007 11:51:00 AM   
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About 9 years ago I was using a bullwhip and the submissive moved right before the strike and I cut them open. He was fine, I felt bad then got over it as shit happens. You can train, and practice but things will happen in the blink of an eye. Tell Her it happens and you can't wait to have it happen again with Her :-)
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RE: When accidents happen - 1/17/2007 7:58:14 PM   
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If nothing ever went wrong you would never learn a damn thing.  Its always better to ask others and get an objective point of view about the situation. As you can see no one here seems to think it is an issue, as they shouldnt.  This should tell you the same thing.  In 20 years I have had a few oops myself.  I sure didnt like it, and I am sure neither did they.  But it happens.  As long as you educate yourself before you try something, chances are any mistakes that might arise wont be life threatening.  As long as everyone is safe and virtually unharmed learn from it. I think you already have.

As for your Domme, she just needs time to deal with it. She is most likely feeling like a failure in her position. She is responsble for you while in that vulnerable state, and something went amiss.  Its a natural feeling.  Try to engage her in some other form of play to boost her confidence.  Dont relive the moment trying to make her feel better. Its no big deal. Time will take care of it.  Just continue to show your admiration for her and your willingness to try other things, or other tables.

Good luck to you.
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