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RE: Does gentle Master mean weak? - 1/14/2007 7:11:15 PM   
SimplyMichael


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The first part of this question, especially those who believe this line of reasoning (the OP) has ruined more potentially rewarding relationships than any other.

Look at it from the other side, if the submissives doesn't obey an order given with the look of an idea, it sets the dominant up as at fault. 

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by rewarding a girl when she is good rather than just punishing her when shes bad and leaving it at that, it will initiate a cycle of positive reinforcement.


This part I agree with and why I liken being a dominant to being a parent.  However, anyone know of any perfect parents?  I rest my case.

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RE: Does gentle Master mean weak? - 1/14/2007 9:28:16 PM   
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No..I dont think that gentleness equals weakness in a Master..however I will be honest and say I get really turned off by Doms who put that in their profile.

I couldnt tell you why though..

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RE: Does gentle Master mean weak? - 1/14/2007 9:45:15 PM   
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Perhaps because you only want them to be gentle after they shoved you to the grown and used and tormented you for a while?

Just a guess...

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RE: Does gentle Master mean weak? - 1/15/2007 12:04:14 AM   
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To paraphrase the Buddha:

The high road ends up with you climbing a big hill early and then relaxing on the down side, the low road you start out easy and then have a hard time later, but the middle road leads you on a path that is never too hard and never too easy, but you can keep walking when you get to your destination.

OK, he didn't really say anything like that, but I could imagine him having said something like that.

Moderation is always good in everything, from discipline to reward.  The key to knowing whether a master is weak or not is to know whether the slave truly needs discipline and if the master lets things go well past when the discipline should have occured, they will have taken the low road - they now have a hard path to walk up to get to the destination (a well behaved slave, but not too harshly disciplined).  A well chosen word here and there can keep you on the middle path, rarely requiring punishment (well, unless the slave requests 'punishment').

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RE: Does gentle Master mean weak? - 1/15/2007 12:14:21 AM   
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everyone likes something different

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RE: Does gentle Master mean weak? - 1/15/2007 12:22:25 AM   
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Gentle doesn't equal weak just like bully doesn't equal strong. I'm gentle with a submissive when being gentle makes sense and I'm not when it doesn't. Whether it's play or punishment or whatever. But I pretty much stay away from generalities like this because everyone needs something different and I don't see the point of trying to lump someone in a category most of the time. 

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RE: Does gentle Master mean weak? - 1/15/2007 3:17:56 AM   
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For me this quote springs in to mind,   “Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character.
For me it about who you use the attitude of being gentle, sometimes in my past I knew she needed to be held in my arms and other times need a good thrashing.  Sometimes people need that clam gentle Dominate person and others need that evil sadist person.  For me weakness comes in someone personal taste, rather than the dominate actions of being a more gentle soul.

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RE: Does gentle Master mean weak? - 1/15/2007 8:03:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Perhaps because you only want them to be gentle after they shoved you to the grown and used and tormented you for a while?

Just a guess...


<laffs> no.. I think it has more to do with anyone who puts D/s "cliches" on their profile...

To me..thats just a turn off.

But hey....that was a nice visual..THANKS!

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