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studrottweiler -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (1/17/2007 10:41:20 AM)

This is a great thread, the input is great




MadRabbit -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (1/17/2007 2:44:01 PM)

I appreciate the compliments greatly.




NightWindWhisper -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (1/17/2007 4:43:24 PM)

I agree wholeheartedly with gretchenS, I think that 19 out of 20 women who look at your profile would be frightened by that statement.  As a dominant "bad moods," are never a basis to interject into a d/s relationship, to do so smacks of non-consensuality which is the cardinal rule in this arena.  I would suggest that the "go get drunk" should be coupled only with non-d/s activities.  To do otherwise could very easily lead to true harm and could lead you to a jail cell--though I'm not suggesting that you'd do that.

Even if someone is a heavy bottom, or a masochist, or a painslut the route in that direction is almost always based upon respect and affection.  It is wise to be careful especially at your stage of the game--if a person is marked, and they make a complaint to the police, perhaps because your point-of-view and theirs wasn't quite the same, or perhaps they got in over their heads-- the marks alone will make an instant case for assault.  As a dominant I believe a prime role is that of a protector, to make sure things don't go too far, or too fast.

I agree with the suggestions that point to books previously mentioned, additionally I enjoy "The Loving Dominant," and "Screw the Roses, Send me the Thorns," which can be had sometimes quite cheaply on half dot com.  Connecting with a local group, and there are a few in your area, is likely to be very fruitful.  Not only will you feel free to ask and observe but there most will be willing to offer good answers to your questions--and that is the one best way to find the partner that you seek.





gretchenS -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (1/18/2007 6:10:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NightWindWhisper


Even if someone is a heavy bottom, or a masochist, or a painslut the route in that direction is almost always based upon respect and affection. 



You get to learn a lot of this just by reading other people's posts and the advices given there.

I find this to be very true, as well as the fact that if this is what the couple wants, it must be discussed between them, before hand, together with many other aspects of a D/s or M/s or Top/bottom relationship. All of it must be an agreement to stablish goals, even if it's just a one weekend type of thing.




thisishis -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (1/19/2007 7:10:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit
There is a LOT more to directing and handling someone who has entrusted you with their bodies, mind, and heart then just saying "Suck, it bitch" when you feal like it.
Is there a "Quote of the Day Thread" around here someplace to post stuff like this?!? Like the one liners that give cause to literally chuckle out loud, or whisper to yourself, "Amen, yep.. i hear ya."
For a post from someone who explains that they are as young as the OP, that one line is reeking of common sense.
Thanks, MadRabbit, i enjoyed...




MrFixxxer -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (1/19/2007 8:02:07 PM)

I am in the same position as strata, i am looking to become a Dom. Someone interested in mentoring?




Totalmaster4you -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (1/22/2007 7:26:17 PM)

Strata you could begin by reading. I started with the John Norman Gor series. The nothe place to get hands on experience is your local community. Many have seminars on differing aspects of BDSM.    Good Luck




emdoub -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (1/22/2007 10:52:27 PM)

First - SimplyMichael, MadRabbit, others - good replies.

Everyone else is telling strata how to walk away from it for a bit - so I'll tell him how to start anywho.  Just bein' contrary, y'know?

First - make contact with your local community.  They'll have a whole lot more experience for you to find than anything here, or anywhere online.  Online is a good place to get the basics, or specific information on a minor point - for the major stuff, you need to see some RL interaction.

This is not politically correct, but I'll stand by it - go sub to someone.  It isn't actually necessary, but it really helps a lot - it's much easier to guide someone to a place if you know what that place is like yourself.  Sub to someone good, mind you - not another newbie would be my choice, and a well-respected dom is where I'd start looking.  (I didn't have that option myself, and subbed to newbies - it didn't exactly work out well, but it wasn't a disaster, but that was lots of luck.  It was, however, responsible for much of the success I've had as a dominant.) 

Find a mentor - if not a purposeful mentor, someone you can watch - see them dom, analyze why they do what they do, and why it works - and internalize that.  Not their style - but your understanding of the whys behind it.  Make lists of the other whys and hows you hear of, listen carefully to the ones that sing to your soul.  Some classes in basic psychology are not going to be wasted.

Be REALLY clear that you're a newbie - the single easiest way to lose trust in this community is to claim experience that you don't have.  Mostly, they'll know - and despise you for lying.

Watch others - especially others who have community respect.  You can see a lot by simply observin'.  When you've seen enough, patterns start to emerge, and understanding starts to happen.

Start small - one-night D/S sessions, domly dates, experiments - while you're building a rapport and understanding of the person you're doing this with.  Always remember that it's a person - not a set of tits with a pussy and someone incomprehensible driving 'em - a person, who deserves respect and understanding just as much as you do, if not more.  It's not their job to understand you - it's your job to understand them, and make sure that they know you well enough to serve you.  Honesty and openness help a lot, but they're not as easy as they look - and they don't look easy.

Spend some time asking, humbly, for cues from the experienced submissives.  They often understand dominance better than the doms do - they can see the forest better with the trees out of the way.  Sometimes, they'll do sessions, as an investment in dom futures - do your level best, and thank them kindly, and listen to what they have to say afterward.  Learn from them - they're often the best teachers.

Always remember that there's more to learn, and a splat can happen at any time, to anyone - a large part of domming is being able to deal with the splats without letting them throw you.  Expect to be surprised, and frightened - and deal with it.

Control yourself - be the one driving the bus you're on.  Only when you can control your own life can you realistically expect to do any good at controlling another's.

Welcome, and good luck - this can be the most rewarding lifestyle I've ever heard of, or the worst - depending on how well you do it, and how you do it well.

Midnight Writer




ShogunSensei -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (2/20/2007 11:57:30 AM)

Yes, the best advice you could get you've already gotten.  Just enjoy and play a lot.  Work on your skills as a top.  As you mature emotionally and mentally, you will be ready to move further.  Patience is a great quality not only in submissives, but also in dominants.  




Celeste43 -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (2/20/2007 1:09:39 PM)

Being under 21, you can't go to most groups. However call the contact numbers and ask them for the nearest TNG group which is for people 18-35.

The other thing is that if you get cut off in traffic, or receive a bad grade, there is no good reason to hurt someone else as a result. That's not D/s, it's abuse. You want to be dominant, then first dominate yourself.

And getting drunk is also not something that recommends you especially as you've already admitted you are out of control when upset. The combination spells trouble, damage for her and jail for you.




Domrob -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (2/22/2007 5:32:40 AM)

A good pro sub can teach you a lot very quickly

they set me uo for life.




novicecourtesan -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (2/23/2007 5:52:53 PM)

strata:

thank you for posting this. I have often wondered about what problems and challenges doms encounter when they are starting out. I hope more doms share their early experiences on this thread....





Driver1961 -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (2/24/2007 12:21:18 AM)

He dips His lid;

I'm extremely impressed Madrabbit!  A fantastic real summary that has taken one hell of alot of thought and reflection- not to mention typing. Rarely do I read such simple clarity on these boards from Dom/mes.   I wish you every sucess in your journey.

Regards Driver.




Despot -> RE: Seaking alittle advice from the more experieanced (2/24/2007 11:02:16 AM)

Just a small bit of advise. If what you are about to do is going to really harm your sub. Step back and think twice. As a Dom, it is your responsibility to ensure their safety, whether they are looking for it or not. Having said that, I have spanked numerous people extremly severely, bound or unbound, nipple torture, cbt, etc. I can say that after 10+ years, I have never brutalized anyone, or caused any real harm. As Doms we walk a very thin line. It's important to know not to cross it.




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