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true or false..urban legends - 1/17/2007 10:39:19 AM   
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SINCE the price of gas is still hugh I was thinking about some urban legends I have heard about all of theses years...true or false..is there a device where we can get 100 miles or more a gallon.?has the oil companys bought this patten and hiden it away...I say maybe...True or false is there a small motor that just runs on water"hydtogen" available but not yet on the market?...Just a few of thinks I have thought about after amny trips to fill up my suv smiles...WILLIAM

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/17/2007 10:51:18 AM   
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http://www.snopes.com

For all your urban legend needs. :)

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/17/2007 11:11:22 AM   
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Sure, a vespa type scooter can get around 100MPG, so can go carts.  Or you can use a hybrid, which draws electrcity also, which probably comes from coal.  You could never drive over 20 mph and get near 100 MPG if you want.  There is even an experimental compressed air car(more like a go cart, and you can carry virtually no weight).  You want an SUV to go 70MPH and get 100 MPG, not if it runs on Gasoline.  There are all kinds of hydrogen motors on the market, but it currently costs more than gas.  Car that runs on water?  here is one that is close  http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FZX/is_2_68/ai_84017295  It runs off of Sodium Boride(its like a dishwashing soap Borax) disolved in water, hydrogen is generated from it with a catalysist, neat stuff.

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/17/2007 5:48:27 PM   
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quote:

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Sure, a vespa type scooter can get around 100MPG, so can go carts.  Or you can use a hybrid, which draws electrcity also, which probably comes from coal.  You could never drive over 20 mph and get near 100 MPG if you want.  There is even an experimental compressed air car(more like a go cart, and you can carry virtually no weight).  You want an SUV to go 70MPH and get 100 MPG, not if it runs on Gasoline.  There are all kinds of hydrogen motors on the market, but it currently costs more than gas.  Car that runs on water?  here is one that is close  http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FZX/is_2_68/ai_84017295  It runs off of Sodium Boride(its like a dishwashing soap Borax) disolved in water, hydrogen is generated from it with a catalysist, neat stuff.


I will be buying a Vespa in a month or two.

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/17/2007 7:40:41 PM   
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Buy a diesel motor and run it on used vegetable oil from restaraunts :)

Seriously I do, I pay about 25% less for proccessed and taxed waste oil.

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/18/2007 8:52:17 AM   
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http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/carburetor.asp

You're referring to a miracle carburetor. See this. Besides carmakers have no vested interest in keeping gas prices high. If we spent less on gas many of us would be able to get the sports cars of our dreams.

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/18/2007 9:17:04 AM   
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There's supposedly a guy hiding out in the desert in the US, who invented a functional engine that works on water...nothing else.

It was on a BBC travel programme (Radio 4), where this journalist was travelling about the US looking for abandoned/wrecked classic cars to restore. This guy had several wrecks outside his house and our friend knocked on the door and was answered with a shotgun by a scared and slightly psychopathic householder. Once convinced that the journalist wasnt from GM there to kill him, they looked over the wrecks.

When our friend got back to town, he told some people in a bar about the encounter, and they asked him whether he got to see the water engine, which at least backs up the story if not the existence of such an engine.

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/18/2007 11:05:54 AM   
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Interesting perspective on how Brits view the American west.  I am confused lady Ellen.  Was it your friend who met the old coot?  or a tv host and your friend saw it on TV?  Did your friend see(or see a host on TV) a functioning engine, or just look over wrecks?  And what was the name of the journalist?  Seems something like this could be checked out.  And when asked in the Bar what was the answer? 

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/18/2007 11:21:49 AM   
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I remember knowing a weird old man long since dead. He claimed to know a guy that created an engine that ran on magnetics. Supposedly ( youu gotta know this old guy was a little more than weird) the oil companies "helped" him disappear.

Who knows...


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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/18/2007 2:19:56 PM   
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Mythbusters did this one and they proved that the used oil in a diesel engine works, but none of the other tricks you see online are any good. Well, hydrgen gas worked, but then it went kaboom during their test.

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/18/2007 3:57:40 PM   
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Fact....GM made electric cars that were tested in public sales.
How ever the Cali tests were ended when they refused to leave the owners with the vehicle.
Taking them all back in a mass recall...

All the owners said that the car was a dream come true.
And most tried in vein to keep their beloved electrics.

So seems we have an alternative already.
But knowing these air head their going to milk gas, until shit hits the fans.
Then mass lay offs will ensue.

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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/18/2007 4:05:19 PM   
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you beat me to it Calliope. MythBusters Rocks.

edited cause i really really suck at spelling. 

< Message edited by BDSM05478 -- 1/18/2007 4:06:12 PM >


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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/18/2007 6:44:27 PM   
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I'm betting Japan will make the switch before we do.  Honda seems to be one of the biggest manufacturers striving towards environmentally friendly engines.

This "Water as fuel" video came out a while ago, incredible if true:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/128967/water_as_fuel/


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RE: true or false..urban legends - 1/18/2007 7:04:02 PM   
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Iceland is going to be the first nation to go 100% oil free, but they have amazingly abundant geothermal.  That water video is interesting, but it say the machine requires electricity and water.   Electrolysis (splitting water into hydrogen and oxegen gasses with electrcity), is a very old technology.  His idea of making hydrogen on site for use instead of acetylene in torches is genious and he will get rich from it.  Plasma torches are old news also( thank Ronald reagan and Star wars for that).  The car would not run on water it would run on hydrogen created on site from water and electrcity.  Electricity has to come from somewhere, did anyone else notice that California had massive power shortages a few years back?  Imagine if there were fleets of electric cars in the mix. 

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