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Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 7:06:05 AM

Unrepentant1

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I have noticed quite a few Dommes appear to enjoy forced gay sex. I am not attracted to men, but would want to do it to please a Mistress. My questions is am I really forced to do it if I do it to please another, or if I was genuinely forced, would that not be rape? By the way, I would do it for someone I loved.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 7:11:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

I have noticed quite a few Dommes appear to enjoy forced gay sex. I am not attracted to men, but would want to do it to please a Mistress. My questions is am I really forced to do it if I do it to please another, or if I was genuinely forced, would that not be rape? By the way, I would do it for someone I loved.

In much of BDSM words like "force" or "rape" or "making someone" do anything should not be taken at their surface value but represent a fantasy that is being played out or an acceptance of authority that would otherwise not exist. For example, a slave may say that her master forces her to perform oral sex on him but would bite it off if a stranger approached her. She or he may use the word "force" or "rape" because it turns them on but they have consented to the behavior if not for each activity then for the dynamics of the relationship.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 1:27:01 PM

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that is some thing theat I was museing over also thatnks for making it more clear it maks it something to remember

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 1:36:19 PM

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Have you ever heard of things called limits? Limits are where you draw the line
on what you are not "willing" to do. If it is a limit, then it would be forced. If it
is not a limit, than you are hardly being forced.
Come on now....you know the difference between when you are "forced" to do
something and when you are not don't you?
If your mistress asks you to jump off a bridge or run naked along the freeway in
broad daylight are you going to say yes?

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 1:40:51 PM

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Yes, it's terrible. How a 5'2" woman could wrestle down a guy who is a full foot taller than her, and probably outweighs her by 60 pounds, and "force" him to be a cocksucker, or take it up his ass. Look man, if gay sex were a hard limit to you, then it should have been laid out at the beginning of your relationship. Otherwise this "hypothetical" you are proposing is just bragging in disguise. It's like saying, "Oh, this Domme "forced" me to cross dress, or "forced" me to lie down and be tied up. What crap! Is it rape? Hardly. If you can't tell the difference between negotiating limits, and respecting them, (or if she can't) then you should go back to a class on on BDSM basics. Sorry if this response sounds snarky, but as a bi man, I get sooooo tired of closet cases trying to rationalize thier identity crises via public forums, or in chat, just because they found out they loved big, fat, juicy cock.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 1:43:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Yes, it's terrible. How a 5'2" woman could wrestle down a guy who is a full foot taller than her, and probably outweighs her by 60 pounds, and "force" him to be a cocksucker, or take it up his ass. Look man, if gay sex were a hard limit to you, then it should have been laid out at the beginning of your relationship. Otherwise this "hypothetical" you are proposing is just bragging in disguise. It's like saying, "Oh, this Domme "forced" me to cross dress, or "forced" me to lie down and be tied up. What crap! Is it rape? Hardly. If you can't tell the difference between negotiating limits, and respecting them, (or if she can't) then you should go back to a class on on BDSM basics. Sorry if this response sounds snarky, but as a bi man, I get sooooo tired of closet cases trying to rationalize thier identity crises via public forums, or in chat, just because they found out they loved big, fat, juicy cock.

^5 tell it like it IS.
It is so very hard to rape the willing.
DENIAL is not just a river in Egypt.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 2:08:51 PM

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You better unless you can outrun her forever or are willing to accept the punishment for your disobediance.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 3:17:57 PM

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This leads to ask one to question, in any of your discussions with your Mistress, if you had casually mentioned any reference on being curious about any "acts" related to gay sex? If so, then it sounds like to me that your Mistress may be playing on a hidden fantasy and/or fear.of yours. Most Masters and Mistresses I know on a friendship basis, do have the art of manipulating their subs/slaves fears, even if that play is never brought into reality. This could be another form of CONTROL your Mistress will use among the other techniques She has at Her disposal!
And also this could be a way a Mistress is using this as a lesson to help the sub/slave's growth. My Master uses a simular technique with myself. In the past several days W/we have serious talks on what will be expected of me in and out of play. He always asks what my feelings are and when I respond that's is "hard limit" or a fear, He then zeros in and forces me to think way outside my comfort zone. He does this to assist in my growth and makes me realize that much of my fears are groundless. Master does know what I want and need even if I don't see that.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 9:14:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

I have noticed quite a few Dommes appear to enjoy forced gay sex. I am not attracted to men, but would want to do it to please a Mistress. My questions is am I really forced to do it if I do it to please another, or if I was genuinely forced, would that not be rape? By the way, I would do it for someone I loved.

I'm curious about this. I have yet to meet one female dominant who actually claims to enjoy "forced __." On the other hand, submissive men who claim to enjoy "forced ____" are extremely common.

Are you sure you've been seeing many Dommes into it?

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 9:26:45 PM

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ROFL

Smartass? you made my night.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/20/2007 9:36:30 PM

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bearincuffs,

I agree with you. A Mistress I know mostly on a friendship basis definitely has the talent to manipulate something I say into something she thinks may be a hidden fantasy of mine or something that, when we do finally meet, she may be interested in seeing me experience.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/21/2007 3:16:53 AM

gailcd

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few of us are being forced to do anything. some people, dom and sub , seem to want to fantasise about "forced" behaviour. if it truly was forced it would probably be illegal

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/21/2007 3:20:30 AM

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That's true. As thetammyjoe stated, it's part of a fantasy being played out.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/21/2007 5:20:16 AM

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I am currently talking to three who enjoy this, maybe the its because they are British, lol.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/21/2007 5:29:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

I am currently talking to three who enjoy this, maybe the its because they are British, lol.

just because 3 British people like talking to you don't stereotype the nation!

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/21/2007 5:41:23 AM

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My view on this subject is that there are alot more bisexual men than are willing to admit. Using the excuse of having a dominant woman "force them" somehow makes their interest in a sexual encounter with a man acceptable.

I don't blame the men, they are just a product of our current societal biases.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/21/2007 5:45:57 AM

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LaTigress
You have hit the nail on the head, so to speak. As a male, it seems so much more legite to be made to suck on cock by another ,especially if restrained and punished, then to just have sex with a guy. I feel that it is not really me doing it on my own free will, but the will of another powerful person. Needless to say I do enjoy it!!

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/21/2007 5:57:34 AM

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Sema, thank you for that. I just find it a bit of a contradiction to have a guy tell me that while he is not bi-sexual he will service a man if "forced". I then have to wonder, if they are not bi then wouldn't they wish to make it a limitation of their service? I am sure they have other things that they consider limitations of service.

Again, I cannot blame them given the way those of alternate/diverse sexuality are treated, especially men. Rather, I find it kind of sad.

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/21/2007 6:00:30 AM

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Smiling as I reply,all those 5 foot nothing and about 100 pounds soaking wet mistresss forcing a big strapping man to suck cock I can see it all now..."please don't beat me any more MISTRESS i'll suck that cock"There must be more cock suckers out there then then the law allows so they the subs "males" use this excuse."I was forced to suck cock by my mistress"WE receive mail from them every day wanting DIANE to make them gay...CUM on guys just admitt you want to suck cock..WILLIAM

< Message edited by BOUNTYHUNTER -- 1/21/2007 6:02:29 AM >

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RE: Forced Gay sex - 1/21/2007 6:02:12 AM

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LaTigress
The first time I did it was entirely to please the lady. I had no hard set limits, it was her idea, and I wished to make her happy in whatever way she saw fit. After that occasion, I did find out that I enjoyed it, and accepted that i am bi. I still feel less guilty about it if I am "made" to do it by another.

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