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domiguy -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 11:07:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

What you seem to be seeking is "can I find another way to look down on others and feel better about myself"

Why not look in the mirror and ask "why the fuck do I pretend to be dominant and yet worry so much about what others are feeling and doing"


Yep. Got me there.....I do think there are a lot of dopey people on this site...But I think there are dopey people everywhere (tugs on Bruce Willis' jacket and whispers..." I see dumb people.")

Just like you see fat chicks everywhere...just our perceptions....lol.

As far as worrying about what others are doing...(no offense, but you could all be killed in a fire at a dungeon...I would read about it over coffee and a piece of toast...mutter something like "that's a shame."...Finish breakfast and off to my life(I'm not quite as cold as it sounds, enjoy your posts, and do wish you all well...but...)....Actually much more curious as to what/how others do and view this "life/hobby."

When I make a post I make sure to include my bias.  Just like when I started this post I really didn't understand the reason to "scene" in public..( With other somewhat like minded individuals)...Made it clear it probably wasn't my thang...I consider my relationships to be "private." But I read and took in what you as well as others took the time to post and I understand much better the different reasons for wanting to partake in such actvities.

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.




Devilslilsister -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 11:26:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

#1)At what point does this become too consuming?  Meaning...Do you feel that you are spending to much time on this in lieu of perhaps other things?

#2) Role playing: Does anyone find that it it hard to it take seriously?


#1) Dont know i got pregnant and ill before i could seriously jump into it all and now that i am not ill Master has about grounded my social life.  If i hadnt.. nah i wouldnt have found it consuming and i'd of jumped in as full force as i could until i got bored. 

#2)  I do.  I can not do role play.  i have my own personal insulting thoughts about it and i can not do it.  I would also feel like a moron trying.  Luckily Master doesnt seem to have any interest in it, which is good.  i'm sure if he tried, my reaction would send it all right out the window.  Point blank, i am not good at faking it.  i unfortunetly have no respect for teachers, doctors, or other forms of normal authority.  

"come here little girl"  (teacher)
"what are you some horny old coot who cant get anyone from ppl your own age?" (me) 
"i said come here!"  (teacher) 
"screw off - you're just an underpaid, under appreciated teacher who hasnt any right to tell me what to do"  (me) 

Sounds like a role playing scene gone wrong........ 




onestandingstill -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 11:31:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: callmemilord

dammit, just Once id like to disagree with julia..it IS play, whether in public or private, and i think the term scene derived from a play, or movie, in which perhaps not all the dialogue is scripted, but each party has an idea of what's going to happen. Some of the rougher and more uncomfortable things, had better be discussed thoroughly First. Tho my prettyeyes always likes a few surprises...weg

For me when I'm in an S&M active energy exchange I'm not playing at all. I take the sensation exchange as serious and not a game, but a journey and a gift I give him and he give me that we share in.
I use the word play in the notion others understand that relates to the sensation energy exchange.
suzanne




daddysprop247 -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 12:05:45 PM)

my Master don't "scene" at all, in public or in private. we also don't refer to anything lifestyle oriented that we engage in as "play", because it's not.

we do occasionally go to bdsm clubs, but not to watch the "scenes" (that's about as exciting to us as watching paint dry), but to hopefully meet others of likemind. more often than not we use a bdsm club as a neutral meeting ground when we meet local lifestylers for the first time that we may wish to get to know better. instead of meeting up at hooters or applebee's, we meet them at bound or crucible (well not crucible...the crucible sucks, but, you get the idea). but that's about it for us as far as bdsm clubs. the music isn't to our taste, most of the people are either lookie-loos or people roleplaying for kicks on the weekend, and most of the actual lifestylers there are more BDSM oriented than D/s oriented...not to mention the scenes taking place everywhere which are just strange and silly to us. so it's basically just a meeting place. nothing more nothing less.




onestandingstill -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 1:30:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy


out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers and from getting flogged till all of the blood leaves Domiguy's body.

mnottertail is this another profile of yours?




theMadWelder -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 2:17:19 PM)

Public scene/play is a safety net. There are house rules in effect, everyone is on their best behavior, everyone goes home safely and happy.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 2:24:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: theMadWelder
Public scene/play is a safety net. There are house rules in effect, everyone is on their best behavior, everyone goes home safely and happy.

That's a big lie.  Bad stuff can  and DO happen in public scenes just like they can anywhere.  If I don't feel safe playing with someone privately, why would I take the chance in public?




theMadWelder -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 2:42:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: theMadWelder
Public scene/play is a safety net. There are house rules in effect, everyone is on their best behavior, everyone goes home safely and happy.

That's a big lie.  Bad stuff can  and DO happen in public scenes just like they can anywhere.  If I don't feel safe playing with someone privately, why would I take the chance in public?


Never at any place I have ever been or ever when I took my turn at DM duty.




MsOpal -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 2:56:52 PM)

)At what point does this become too consuming?  Meaning...Do you feel that you are spending to much time on this in lieu of perhaps other things?

#2) Role playing:

.............................

I do not understand the 1st question here.  Ds is my life.  yes I "do" regular real life stuff and yes Argent gets up and goes to work and all that mundane stuff we all ahve to od, but just like we are married all the time, we are also Ds all the time and that fact colors all we do.  So I ahve no way to reply to "when is it too much".

Role playing can be fun, it can be a release of tension, it can be acting out a lifelong fantasy, it can just be FUN!

About scenes: when we play - that si when we engage in full out bdsm activities we call it a scene or play.  Argent will say "I want to play tonight" or I will tell a boy, "we will play after you finish the supper dishes and take a shower.  We also play at parties, large and small.  it gives us an energy we do get playing at home, it feeds us in some spiritual way that we need from time to time.

if you think knifeplay is boreing ... come here little boy, let me show you my pretty, shiney things!  Don't worry, I have first aid training and a good first aid kit.  But, knives can also be about sensual play and that has it's own fun.  If that is just too boreing, let's play with needles, or electricity, or fire!
MsOpal




domiguy -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 4:45:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsOpal

)At what point does this become too consuming?  Meaning...Do you feel that you are spending to much time on this in lieu of perhaps other things?

I do not understand the 1st question here.  Ds is my life.  yes I "do" regular real life stuff and yes Argent gets up and goes to work and all that mundane stuff we all ahve to od, but just like we are married all the time, we are also Ds all the time and that fact colors all we do.  So I ahve no way to reply to "when is it too much".

if you think knifeplay is boreing ... come here little boy, let me show you my pretty, shiney things!  Don't worry, I have first aid training and a good first aid kit.  But, knives can also be about sensual play and that has it's own fun.  If that is just too boreing, let's play with needles, or electricity, or fire!
MsOpal



Thanks for the reply "big mama" but you can keep that first aid training and kits and "shiny things" and little subbie boys in Texas(along with "w" when done with his term) and I'll sit comfortably here in Chicago....But thanks for the offer nonetheless.  Wasn't trying to sound condescending in regards to playing at parties...just wanted to know what the attraction was to folks out here.

As far as question #1) Many people live this life 24/7...and the results have been possibly costly...(potential loss of friends, family etc.) or spending so much time on one aspect of your personality(or maybe this is 100% who you are....and everything else is secondary?) that the cost could also be potentially the time spent doing "this" could have been spent elsewhere?  That is what I was eluding to with the first question.  Just thought it was provoking...There are many things in the past that I have spent my time on...that in hindsight,at least, could have been managed better, and at worse, were a complete waste of Domiguy's time.

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers...as well as MsOpal.




whisperedsighs -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 4:55:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lorelei115

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
Now if they were wielded by monkees you would have my attention)



Anyone else getting a picture here of Mike, Davy, Mickey and Peter dressed in leather, wielding knives? *laugh*



Falls over laughing!   hey!  Just remember, I'm not your stepping stone!




aSlavesLife -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 6:04:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

#1)At what point does this become too consuming?  Meaning...Do you feel that you are spending to much time on this in lieu of perhaps other things?

While I am in a M/s relationship it constitutes a large portion of my waking hours. I don't feel as though it is too time consuming, as it is an integral part of my life.

#2) Role playing: Does anyone find that it it hard to it take seriously?

Sometimes, though I take my 18th level chaotic neutral wizard/thief seriously. Or do you mean some other sort of role playing?





MaryT -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 6:13:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

Personally, while I enjoy the energy at a good scene party, and like to take part if my partner is willing, the "serious" work of the relationship usually happens in private. 


Relationships are work?  Is this common knowledge among Doms?  [:D]

MaryT




julietsierra -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 6:35:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

As far as question #1) Many people live this life 24/7...and the results have been possibly costly...(potential loss of friends, family etc.) or spending so much time on one aspect of your personality(or maybe this is 100% who you are....and everything else is secondary?) that the cost could also be potentially the time spent doing "this" could have been spent elsewhere?  That is what I was eluding to with the first question.  Just thought it was provoking...There are many things in the past that I have spent my time on...that in hindsight,at least, could have been managed better, and at worse, were a complete waste of Domiguy's time.

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers...as well as MsOpal.


Domiguy, I understand your concern here, but if I may, I'd like to approach your question somewhat differently, and instead of defending why I do what I do, I'd like to point out a similarity with another life change that more people are familiar with and accept as pretty natural.

Way back when, when I was a young and single woman, I did things that young and single women did. I went to the bars with my girlfriends, I went camping with my girlfriends, I spent a lot of time with a lot of men that I'd met and enjoyed knowing in a variety of different ways. Some were just my buddies. Some were kind of like second brothers to me. And some were boyfriends and lovers and well, one night stands. I had a great time.

Then one night at a party that I'd gone to with a male friend and sometimes lover, I met another young and single man. We met, we spent a lot of time together that evening, exchanged phone numbers and eventually went out on a date. That date led to many others and eventually to the point where I dropped all the other male friends, and sometimes lovers, and stopped going to the bars to pick up men with my girlfriends. When my family was doing things together, they got upset because I wanted him to be there doing those things with me. Eventually, the young man asked me to marry him and I said yes.

By this time, my girlfriends were more than upset. They were angry that I wasn't going out with them to the bars and picking up men anymore. The other young men I'd been seeing were not real pleased either. "Why do you want to tie yourself down with just one person?!" they'd ask. My family just wanted me to go on to finish school and forget all this marriage nonsense. NO ONE was happy with my decision.

In the months that followed, we planned a wedding and I started spending most of my time with him. We started doing things with people that accepted us as a couple and pretty much stopped doing things with people who just wanted us the way we were when we were single. And I have to admit, that this decision to marry cost me some friends because they couldn't accept that there was this man in my life that I was choosing to be with above them, It wasn't that I cared less for them, but it was that this was the man I wanted to spend the rest of my life with.

When we married we were the first of our friends to do so and both his friends and my friends were none too happy, and the cost of our marriage included the loss of some of the friends on both our parts. I mean face it, we weren't going out to pick up men and women anymore. A fun Saturday wasn't filled with days at the beach in the summer and all that. We had other obligations and found our fun in other ways.

The thing is, no one finds this change odd. Afterall, it's a change that's pretty much expected when people choose married life over single life. But now, we're talking about something that's more than a bit off the beaten path, and instead of marriage, we're talking about a BDSM relationship. Except that it's still pretty similar.

When people do this 24/7 with the Master/slave, Dominant/submissive of their choice, they are making a decision as to how they want to live their lives. They are, in effect, choosing to not be single - even if matrimony isn't a part of their lives. And all of a sudden, people are up in arms about how detrimental this all is to their friends and family.

To that, I'd say yes it is. But if someone's going to walk away from a friend because they've that friend has someone they feel comfortable with, then it's a chance they have to take. Yes, people talk about the possibility of losing children and all that, but honestly, people who divorce and then meet someone else in the vanilla world, depending on the ex-spouse face that possibility as well. There are some mean-ass people out there and whether they're vanilla or involved in bdsm, mean is mean. If they're going to pursue custody because someone has a Master, Dominant, submissive, slave, then I'm pretty much betting that they'd have done this even if the new people were boyfriends, new husbands, girlfriends and new wives. 

So, I don't think that being involved in bdsm is that different from being involved in vanilla relationships. It's more the stigma that WE attach to what it is we do out of fear over being found out than something we do because we're SO bdsm-y.

So, I don't think that this life is that different from vanilla and matrimony. Time is time, and when we choose to be more exclusive with our time, chances are, there will be some people we know that will have a problem with our choices. It just doesn't mean our choices are wrong.

juliet




MsOpal -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 7:09:26 PM)

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers...as well as MsOpal


mmuuhahahaaaa .... I love it when they run!




SlyStone -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 7:41:13 PM)

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Last night I did a highly formalized wax scene with my partner. I spent hours preparing beforehand, I set up the "stage" with blankets and sheets and made sure everything was laid out properly so I wouldn't spill the wax. Then I spent hours IN the scene pretty much doing nothing but putting on oil and wax, and then taking off wax.

After that I played with my partner with some flogging to practice my florentine and for him to enjoy his newly exposed skin as I waited for another station to open up so I could do some violet wand play with my friend.

I did some more play with her and then got my partner on the table to give him a full taste of electric play as a beginner.

Then we calmed down for a bit and I did a slow and leisurely foot worship/objectification scene with him.

What's the difference for me? Nothing really. Play usually denotes more freestyle, spontaneity and no particular energy that I want to build up which a scene denotes a more specific goal of energy and connected with parts that have been specifically put into place to achieve that goal.

It's also VERY rare for me to play that much in a single night, but the energy was smoking.

Were my scenes/playing just to perform for people? I certainly don't think so.




This, and the posts by michael on scening, are examples of  (and there are many more by others)  why I read this board.





domiguy -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 7:43:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsOpal

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers...as well as MsOpal


mmuuhahahaaaa .... I love it when they run!



Being that you are 54...it would probably only take a fast paced stroll....lol.
(you don't have one of them "rascals"yet, do you?...Hear they move like greased lightning!)

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.




domiguy -> RE: 1st new thread by sir Domiguy...Things this dude just doesn't get...Be easy he's fragile. (1/22/2007 7:52:12 PM)

I do appreciate everyone who participated...I think it shows people like myself...who do not participate actively at parties or within the "community" that there are valid reasons why it should be considered.  I do come out here often just to be a bit of a smart ass... but I, as well as I'm sure many others, do glean some information that is helpful and can be kept for good use.

Thanks again. Now go about your flogging.

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.




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