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PassionateNights -> RE: creampie desires (4/7/2005 1:17:16 PM)
I think that just as there are submissives who recieve their enjoyment/reward by different measn so there is for Dominants. I know that some Dominants enjoy pushing a submissive to do things that they don't want to, just because they can. Others are more centric in their desires and just work on fullfilling those. Bottom line, we all do this becasue we get something out of it. For me I find vicarious pleasure through the joy I bring my Dominant. The beauty of D/s relationships is that it removes so many socially constructed barriers and allows us to delve into whatever we find erotic, with some carefully constructed limits. imho....:) I think that this thread "Creampie desires" illustrates this perfectly how one couple can derive pleasure/enjoyment from the same scene/activity for a completely different set of reasons another couple might. of course as always I could just be full of #$%$

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: creampie desires (4/7/2005 5:06:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PassionateNights I think that just as there are submissives who recieve their enjoyment/reward by different measn so there is for Dominants. I think that this thread "Creampie desires" illustrates this perfectly how one couple can derive pleasure/enjoyment from the same scene/activity I understand what you're saying, but what I'm saying in this case is that it becomes extremely important for each person to be clear about his desires/motives in listing certain interests. For example, I don't have a single problem with a sub who will submit to providing for my comfort/pleasure to leave open the option for me to someday bring home a sudmuffin, do in front of him, and clean me up after said studmuffin... I do have an enormous problem with a sub who has no/little interest in intercourse/sex with a woman, but is far more interested in watching her with another/cleaning up after him; there are men like this, and usually they don't say this is how they are, they simply say, I am open to submitting to cuckolding (which isn't exactly true in my view, I think this means he wants a man in the mix, but is unable to approach men by himself). M

PassionateNights -> RE: creampie desires (4/7/2005 5:55:22 PM)
BlkTallFullfig...I couldn't agree with you more. I think that is why people should take the time to explore and understand who they are as people before taking on the potentially deep relationship that D/s can build. I'm way against the "Hey I'm kinky, your kinky..let's get freaky" attitude. But I think of those as more general relationship issues. Perhaps I'm just too old, but I do not in general get involved with people who don't know what they want out of life (perhaps why I adore Dominant women...becuase most know exactly what they want and aren't afraid to ask for it). I think it would be incredibly dishonest and certainly not in your dominants interest, to use her as a tool to be able to engage your homosexual needs, rather than being man enough to be who you are. But for the record, creampie desires, I think can encompass more than just another mans cum, after making love to a woman I have no qualms about sliding down and continuing to pleasure her. I think it shows a level of devotion, especialy when a male reaches orgasm, his desire goes right out the window. Continuing to make it all about her shows another level of devotion.

MsMacComb -> RE: creampie desires (4/8/2005 2:27:11 AM)
I have always felt that men that have a desire to perform orally on a female after sex dont have gay inclinations. If he classified himself as bi he would usually go directly to the source (the penis) and wouldnt need the middleman (the female). Cuckolded males are often (not always) just very orally submissive. They may do certain things at the direction his wife they would never do on their own (as a gay or bisexual man might). Their desire to please and be a part of her affairs and to submit to me, are what makes it so wonderful. I think its one of the ultimate forms of devotion. As we all know heterosexual males are FREAKED at the thought of being gay. A submissive straight male who is willing to ingest semen from another man has to be very dedicated to his wife. Naturally there are some that may be latent but I have alwasy felt that was the exception rather than the rule.

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