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NoPinkBalloons -> RE: for the Sirs - a question (3/2/2005 8:34:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

It's indicative of a certain level of respect in My circles and many online circles, including websites of the likes of http://www.submissiveloving.com/ .


I see....so only people who identify as dominant are deserving of a "certain level of respect" since they're the only ones who are entitled to this funky capitalization acknowledging it?

Sorry, but that just makes no sense to me. In over a decade in the r/l scene, I've met at least as many people who identify as submissive, switch, sadist, masochist, etc that deserve respect as I have people who call themselves dominant. And I've seen a whole lot of people who claim that they're dominant but couldn't buy my respect with a platinum AmEx card.

Basing respect on the role someone assumes rather than their personal qualities makes no sense at all to me.

So, basically, if I say (for example), "Kenin, Sir, You are a bigot and an asshole and i wouldn't cross the street to piss on Your head if Your hair was on fire", then I'm showing respect? Well all the capitals are in the right place, aren't they? So that must be respectful. But if i was to say (for example), "Kenin, I think you have some interesting ideas and I'd be very interested in discussing how you arrived at the conclusions that you have" then I'm not being respectful because I didn't capitalize the correct letters.

Sorry, but that doesn't make any kind of sense.


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This can be absolutely fatal. you have nothing concrete to base your decisions on when you work solely within these parameters. Gut instinct just doesn't cut it without having sufficient data upon which to work with. Remember, gut instinct can very easily be (over)ruled by emotion or the heat of the moment. It is not infallible. Logic would seem to dictate that O/one would gather all the data available to T/them, in the form of good and bad references and the wisdom with which the Dom/me speaks on a continual basis. Then, and only then, can O/one formulate a valid, logical, safe conclusion.


No one else's opinion is going to overrule what my personal judgements tell me. I don't care of someone says that a particular person is highly respected, skilled and admired; if I get a bad vibe from that person then I'm going to listen to my gut. The same goes of people say that Mr.X is a dangerous player - I'm going to form my own opinions and not take someone else's word for it. They could be a jealous ex-partner, or even simply someone whose style was a bad match for Mr.X's.

I've been doing wiitwd for a couple of decades, and my gut hasn't failed me yet. I'm pretty comfortable with trusting my own instincts over those of strangers.




SirKenin -> RE: for the Sirs - a question (3/2/2005 8:43:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MidnightWriter
<raises eyebrow> Um.. speak for yourself - not all of us are, and some of us would take the inference as an insult. [;)]


Indeed I am anything but normal. There isn't a person that knows Me that would indicate otherwise. I now pride Myself in it, as that fact, believe it or not, attracts women to Me. My current interest states that she has always been attracted to eccentric types (and I am in fact eccentric). She states that ordinary is boring and she's a real doll to be certain. A beautiful woman in many ways. Matter of fact, I'm very proud of her so I'll include a picture. [;)]




MidnightWriter -> RE: for the Sirs - a question (3/2/2005 8:46:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

If they don't like how you introduced yourself, then recomend that you are ready for discipline and would like to learn the correct manner they would like to be addressed. After all, most Doms including myself like subs who are willing to learn and find making a mistake here and there kinda fun.

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I can understand someone politely asking correction on how a dominant would like to be addressed; that's simple good manners, regardless of BDSM orientation. But "are ready for discipline"???

A social faux pas is corrected by a simple apology and avoidance of the same mistake a second time - and requires no more correction than that. Any person, in any venue, who thought it appropriate to punish a perfect stranger for a mistake made with no ill intent would not only earn my disrespect, but would probably earn my "get the hell outta here before I go back to jail" from me.

Yup - still grouchy tonight, but this one just struck me wrong - and wrapped.




SirKenin -> RE: for the Sirs - a question (3/2/2005 9:03:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NoPinkBalloons

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

It's indicative of a certain level of respect in My circles and many online circles, including websites of the likes of http://www.submissiveloving.com/ .


I see....so only people who identify as dominant are deserving of a "certain level of respect" since they're the only ones who are entitled to this funky capitalization acknowledging it?

Sorry, but that just makes no sense to me. In over a decade in the r/l scene, I've met at least as many people who identify as submissive, switch, sadist, masochist, etc that deserve respect as I have people who call themselves dominant. And I've seen a whole lot of people who claim that they're dominant but couldn't buy my respect with a platinum AmEx card.

Basing respect on the role someone assumes rather than their personal qualities makes no sense at all to me.

So, basically, if I say (for example), "Kenin, Sir, You are a bigot and an asshole and i wouldn't cross the street to piss on Your head if Your hair was on fire", then I'm showing respect? Well all the capitals are in the right place, aren't they? So that must be respectful. But if i was to say (for example), "Kenin, I think you have some interesting ideas and I'd be very interested in discussing how you arrived at the conclusions that you have" then I'm not being respectful because I didn't capitalize the correct letters.

Sorry, but that doesn't make any kind of sense.


Of course it doesn't make any sense. you twisted what I said all out of proportion. How on earth did you expect it to make sense? Maybe W/we can fabricate a satisfactory response to suit your fabricated conclusions. lol




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