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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/23/2007 1:48:41 AM   
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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/23/2007 6:05:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lorelei115

Also, organic food is bad for the environment. Yup, thats right, its bad. It takes far more land area to produce the same amount of organic crops than non-organic. More land for food= less land for rainforests.


You're gonna have to back that one up, biointensive techniques have recorded yields far in excess of any monoculturural factory farming technique you can name - using less than half the water.

The real benefit to organics is reducing the amount of damage done to the ecosystem, high nitrate runoff  is slowly sterilizing the entire Gulf of Mexico, and there is a very real possibility that soil exaustion could recreate the dustbowl under the right conditions.

If the hidden costs were figured in, your basic non-organic food woud cost at least twice what it does now. 

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RE: Toxic Chemicals In Everyday Items - 1/23/2007 6:39:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I suspect food additives may be dangerous but they are present in almost every supermarket food. What can you do ?


Things People Can Do

1) Learn to cook.
2) Avoid eating prepared foods.
3) Purchase fresh produce at farmer's markets.
4) Kill and butcher Bambi.
5) Read ingredients on things you like, purchase those ingredients you want in your food, make the food yourself.
The list goes on.
The more you allow other people to prepare the food you eat, the more likely you will be to be eating additives those other people put in things.
Sinergy


Sensible response but item 4 I could never do. I would sooner eat completely synthetic meat.
This very day I found a big bird, a Crow  or a Rook not sure which flat out in my front garden.. I picked him up and have taken him to vet. He wasn't a bit grateful and tried to peck me. Will find out tomorrow what happened to him.


Howdy All,

Item 4 was mostly tongue in cheek.  I have been rescuing animals all my life and I have issues killing even most bugs and spiders at this point in my life.

One thing that people seem to forget is that human beings are toxic to the planet.

1)  We exhale carbon dioxide

2)  We fart methane.

3)  We exploit resources.

4)  We alter the system space without having (not sure this is even possible) a particularly clear understanding of the system space in question.

5)  We alter the natural balance of life forms by breeding, animal husbandry, monkeying with genetics, driving cars, etc. 

What people seem to be unable to understand is that when you have a balance, and one upsets that balance, nature then steps in and reestablishes a new balance.  This may or may not be in the best interest of humans.  For me, I do as much as I can to avoid altering the extant system space whenever possible.

The thing I do not do is dwell negatively on the parts of the system space I have changed.  Things happen.  Adapt or die.

Sinergy

edited to add that this is Sinergy.  strumpet never logged out of my computer.

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