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Hell explained by Chemistry Student - 1/23/2007 1:12:37 AM   
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The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid-term. The answer by one student was so "profound" that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well:
Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.
One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.
As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell.
Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of
Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which
souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will
increase until all Hell breaks loose.
2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of
souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, "It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you," and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore,
extinct..... .leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting "Oh my God."
THIS STUDENT RECEIVED THE ONLY "A"
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RE: Hell explained by Chemistry Student - 1/23/2007 1:27:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good stuff SirD; I think it did the rounds a while ago, but good stuff is always worth repeating.

What I could never get over though, was that in a paper about chemistry, a pure science - there was a question about hell, which is a religious concept.

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Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell explaine... - 1/23/2007 2:11:23 AM   
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Good stuff SirD; I think it did the rounds a while ago, but good stuff is always worth repeating.

What I could never get over though, was that in a paper about chemistry, a pure science - there was a question about hell, which is a religious concept.

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Well guess it suits Me as I made the rounds a while ago but still am good stuff too

I did see a pic of a population sign that had ice hanging from it. What a riot!

Hell is an emotional state is it not?

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 2:18:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hell is indeed a state in this life, as well as in what might come next, yes.

Although I have somewhat strange ideas by comparison to the church!

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 2:29:36 AM   
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Hell is indeed a state in this life, as well as in what might come next, yes.
Although I have somewhat strange ideas by comparison to the church!

Strange how so? Many would rather go thru physical pain than return to the emotional hell they have been thru.....might this be a means for them to suffer...is it attrition or avoidance or both? Ever notice how many dress as priests and nuns on Halloween?

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 2:33:10 AM   
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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 2:44:56 AM   
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Yeah i,m not going to hell....

How can you be so sure? Did you find out from the quizes?

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 2:49:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		It depends on the nature of the hell SirD.

Yes, in an emotional hell in this life, physical pain can be of use. And I'll likely get slammed for this, but I find its true; those who cut themselves and so on, do so because the physical pain is cathartic in relation to the emotional pain. The general approach in the UK though is, to class cutters as attention seekers and write them off; of course their seeking attention, they are in an emotional hell for goodness' sake! But writing them off just makes the whole thing worse. I've never come across it personally, but I guess there might be some "masochists" out there who have others provide catharsis through bdsm activities - ie they are not really masochists, but find relief from emotional pain in physical suffering. I know I would find it difficult to provide what they are seeking by way of catharsis, when what they really need and want is love. Emotional pain can be so very worse than most physical pain too, for anyone reading this that feels differently.

Then there is the idea which one might draw from some church/bible teachings, that it is good to suffer in some way - that this is of advantage to the soul. Certainly, suffering by way of self-denial, flagellation and the like are widespread as spiritual practices and are valid. But then some might take this further and propose that God, whatever that is, wants us to be unhappy and in pain, just for the sake of it. And worse, then engineer pain and unhappiness for the "good" of all, the idea being that we are all so evil that we need to suffer deeply just to get into heaven, which is daft, as not everyone is ready for heaven as their next life.

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RE: Hell explained by Chemistry Student - 1/23/2007 3:44:10 AM   
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What I could never get over though, was that in a paper about chemistry, a pure science - there was a question about hell, which is a religious concept.

Would you subscribe then to the description of Hell found in Dante's Divine Comedy?

Ross

"Through me the way into the suffering city,
Through me the way to the eternal pain,
Through me the way that runs among the lost.
Justice urged on my high artificer;
My maker was divine authority,
The highest wisdom, and the primal love.
Before me nothing but eternal things were made,
And I endure eternally.
Abandon every hope, ye who enter here."

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 3:53:53 AM   
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do so because the physical pain is cathartic in relation to the emotional pain.

I have personally known some that do it to "just to feel something" as the emotional pain was numbing.

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 3:57:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllenThen there is the idea which one might draw from some church/bible teachings, that it is good to suffer in some way - that this is of advantage to the soul. Certainly, suffering by way of self-denial, flagellation and the like are widespread as spiritual practices and are valid. But then some might take this further and propose that God, whatever that is, wants us to be unhappy and in pain, just for the sake of it. And worse, then engineer pain and unhappiness for the "good" of all, the idea being that we are all so evil that we need to suffer deeply just to get into heaven, which is daft, as not everyone is ready for heaven as their next life.

But is it possible that such practices and teaching are an interpretation or perception by a human based on the thoughts of a Supreme being?

Ever tell someone something only to hear it weeks later from someone else and it has completly changed from what you originally said?

a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend...

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RE: Hell explained by Chemistry Student - 1/23/2007 3:58:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hell, in terms of afterlife SirD - I tend to go with the Norse version, which has several levels.

There is a cold hell, which is similar to the Christian one (but cold, obviously), for evildoers, oathbreakers and the like. Not as a punishment, but as a natural consequence of wyrd (karma, basically).

But also there are nice bits of hell, and one who dies a "straw death" (ie, in bed of old age) might end up there. A place for people who didnt do evil but also didnt do anything remarkable either, that would result in earthly or heavenly rebirth.

The Christian hell is a place of damnation, but for me its just somewhere one goes as a natural consequence of one's deeds. Also, you dont leave the Christian hell apparently, but mine is just another place of rebirth from which eventually you will be reborn again.

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 3:58:55 AM   
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suffering by way of self-denial, flagellation

Might this not be such a selfless act but one of completion or need to suffer...as in endorphines or mental mindset?

Where and when might it cross the line...

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 3:59:31 AM   
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do so because the physical pain is cathartic in relation to the emotional pain.

I have personally known some that do it to "just to feel something" as the emotional pain was numbing.

Ross


I guess so. I just posted from personal experience.

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 4:02:31 AM   
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suffering by way of self-denial, flagellation

Might this not be such a selfless act but one of completion or need to suffer...as in endorphines or mental mindset?

Where and when might it cross the line...

Noticed self flagilation in DaVinci Code movie..


Ross



Such practices are widespread across the world, as means of accessing the divine, so its not just a Christian thing.

It then comes down to intent and interpretation I guess; the scientist would say its endorphines and psychic change, the religious would say its accessing the divine by way of mental state.

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 4:24:14 AM   
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Such practices are widespread across the world, as means of accessing the divine, so its not just a Christian thing.
It then comes down to intent and interpretation I guess; the scientist would say its endorphines and psychic change, the religious would say its accessing the divine by way of mental state.

So enphorpines evoke spiritual interpretations ala be it being hung by the chest via eagle talon or whipping.

How many submissives or bottoms have experienced a religious awakening during a session?

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/23/2007 4:59:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm, I think its important to distinguish between spiritual and religious on that question SirD.

Religious conjures only one form of spirituality in our culture, unfortunately.

Spiritual is universal. The native Americans doing their sun dance had spiritual experiences by our culture's measure but unless they were doing it for Jesus and/or accessed the divine trinity thereby, then by our culture it wasnt religious, you know?

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/26/2007 3:48:55 PM   
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Hmm, I think its important to distinguish between spiritual and religious on that question SirD. Religious conjures only one form of spirituality in our culture, unfortunately.
Spiritual is universal. The native Americans doing their sun dance had spiritual experiences by our culture's measure but unless they were doing it for Jesus and/or accessed the divine trinity thereby, then by our culture it wasnt religious, you know?

So was the crucifiction a spiritual ritua with divine experiences in a higher form of the sun dance?

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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 1/26/2007 4:00:36 PM   
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The native Americans doing their sun dance had spiritual experiences by our culture's measure


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RE: Hell is an emotional state is it not? RE: Hell expl... - 2/1/2007 6:43:13 AM   
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Hmm, I think its important to distinguish between spiritual and religious on that question SirD.


Gosh...I like it when you talk like that...


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