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A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 4:28:56 AM   
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Time to put all those years of catholic school to good use (no, put DOWN the old uniform…that is not what we are doing right now…well, maybe later if you are good…).  Who would he or she be? What attributes and symbols? What is the background story?  Discuss…
I would prefer a pre-existing saint, some one I could proudly but the saint’s card for with a private wink to myself (and such a great gift too!)…but I think we would all enjoy a creative and amusing fantasy saint…

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 4:57:51 AM   
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Actually all those years of parochial school did wonders for all the taboos I started to explore when I was introduced to BDSM


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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? 5341 saints - 1/23/2007 5:00:29 AM   
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I do not believe any showed up on PATRON SAINTS INDEX of the 5341 saints
http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/indexsnt.htm

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 5:05:27 AM   
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http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/patron00.htm

No patron saint of

Bondage

Discipline

Sadism


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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 5:46:07 AM   
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Looking over that list there is a patron saint for slaves, but that would be pushing it..

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 7:19:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC

Time to put all those years of catholic school to good use (no, put DOWN the old uniform…that is not what we are doing right now…well, maybe later if you are good…).  Who would he or she be? What attributes and symbols? What is the background story?  Discuss…
I would prefer a pre-existing saint, some one I could proudly but the saint’s card for with a private wink to myself (and such a great gift too!)…but I think we would all enjoy a creative and amusing fantasy saint…

I would suggest Mary the mother of Jesus.
She in fear chose to do the right thing and abide by God's wishes in her life.
She too had a choice to bail out and be something other than her destiny.
She knew just like we do she was taking a road less traveled, and not understood.
She too suffered for her beliefs and was happy to do so daily as she knew it was the right thing to do regardless of the notion her life would not be accepted by the multitudes.
She cares for all of us like our mother and helps us when ever we earnestly ask.
I vote for Mary, hands down.
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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 7:23:45 AM   
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You knw, many of the saints could do as patron saints for submissives at least...Saints submitted their will to God,  turned their lives over to His destiny and plan, and dedicated their lives to service.  I'm not sure about a patron saint for dominants though....

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 7:47:03 AM   
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I agree with your choice of Mary (partly because its also my first name)  LOL  - BUT  She isnt really a saint and well she's too well known for other things. 

But i love your description!



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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 9:24:40 AM   
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My patron saint I chose for my Confirmation was Saint Catherine of Sienna:

http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/CATSIENA.htm

At age 12, I chose it because I liked the name Catherine. After reading her full history, what an appropriate guide for me.
 
She was kick ass Domme who took on the Popes. 

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 1:31:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC

Time to put all those years of catholic school to good use (no, put DOWN the old uniform…that is not what we are doing right now…well, maybe later if you are good…).  Who would he or she be? What attributes and symbols? What is the background story?  Discuss…


No contest, St. Teresa of Avila.  She became a Doctor of the Church after entering the convent at age 20, where she was plagued by long periods of illness. While ill, she would study mystical and spiritually acetic works and find herself entranced in "spiritual ecstacy."  She spiritually purged herself through the self-infliction of pain and suffering, often using self-torture to induce periods of trance or heightened awareness.  She took over an existing order of nuns by papal decree and reformed them through the application of her strict rules:  absolute poverty, giving up of all property, ceremonial flagellation every week, regular seclusion, and the ritual of going barefoot all the time. 

As a mystic, she wrote extensively regarding her four stages of the ascent of the soul.  From the Wiki: 

The first, or "heart's devotion", is that of devout contemplation or concentration, the withdrawal of the soul from without and specially the devout observance of the passion of Christ and penitence.

The second is the "devotion of peace", in which at least the human will is lost in that of God by virtue of a charismatic, supernatural state given of God, while the other faculties, such as memory, reason, and imagination, are not yet secure from worldly distraction.

The "devotion of union" is not only a supernatural but an essentially ecstatic state. Here there is also an absorption of the reason in God, and only the memory and imagination are left to ramble. This state is characterized by a blissful peace, a sweet slumber of at least the higher soul faculties, a conscious rapture in the love of God.

The fourth is the "devotion of ecstasy or rapture", a passive state, in which the consciousness of being in the body disappears (II Cor. xii. 2-3). Sense activity ceases; memory and imagination are also absorbed in God or intoxicated. Body and spirit are in the throes of a sweet, happy pain, alternating between a fearful fiery glow, a complete impotence and unconsciousness, and a spell of strangulation, intermitted sometimes by such an ecstatic flight that the body is literally lifted into space. This after half an hour is followed by a reactionary relaxation of a few hours in a swoon-like weakness, attended by a negation of all the faculties in the union with God. From this the subject awakens in tears; it is the climax of mystical experience, productive of the trance.

Hrm....  sounds a bit like subspace to me. 

In high school I managed to get a poster of Bernini's The Ecstasy of S. Teresa de Avila for my wall - told my devout mother she was a Doctor of the Church and an inspiration for good Catholic girls.  I remember getting chills the first time I read the quote on which the sculpture is based...  I was 15. 

Smart and submissive, the leader of her order willing to be led by the Holy See, living in total subjugation to God and able to find peace through pain and testing...  Sounds like my kind of woman.

~Holly, who wonders whatever happened to that poster...

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 4:29:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC

Time to put all those years of catholic school to good use (no, put DOWN the old uniform…that is not what we are doing right now…well, maybe later if you are good…).  Who would he or she be? What attributes and symbols? What is the background story?  Discuss…
I would prefer a pre-existing saint, some one I could proudly but the saint’s card for with a private wink to myself (and such a great gift too!)…but I think we would all enjoy a creative and amusing fantasy saint…


Look. Just because I've announced the formation of an Exploratory Committee does not mean I will seek the nomination.


Aren't all saints pre-existing, whether or not canonized? With that in mind, anyone else interested in Simone Weil?

And, well, if Julie of Norwich doesn't get a mention you might as well throw this thread down a well.



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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 5:31:39 PM   
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The Archangel Michael, being the protector, is someone I call on while scening...so far, so good!

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 6:17:50 PM   
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The Archangel Michael, being the protector, is someone I call on while scening...so far, so good!


The one who used to go by CrappyAngel?

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 6:19:21 PM   
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you called?...

(hehehehe) Saint Allie

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 6:30:28 PM   
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The Archangel Michael, being the protector, is someone I call on while scening...so far, so good!


lol...personally I have been calling upon St Jude ever since I joined this site...

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 6:32:10 PM   
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I'd say St. Jude or St. George for the Doms, St. Mary (the original) or St. Monica for the subs.


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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 6:35:28 PM   
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I'd say St. Jude or St. George for the Doms.


oooo...creepy!  Are we, like, jinxed now b/c we said the samething?

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 6:40:19 PM   
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lol I thought the same thing, so I had to go back and add on to it.

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 6:40:50 PM   
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St. Christopher because when I am traveling down my local highway, there is a lot of congestion but that is what I get for living in Florida, tourist state of the snow birds.  At least it is not snowing in my area, so far.

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RE: A patron saint of BSDM? - 1/23/2007 6:48:17 PM   
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I vote for Titivillus as patron demon for subs/slaves/etc.  Someone is responsible for all our mistakes, right? (Hey it worked for those medeival scribes...)

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