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Submission for the Dom/me - 1/23/2007 3:11:41 PM   
ToGiveDivine


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Before becoming aware of the lifestyle, I was submissive in the vanilla sense based on my outlook of a relationship.  Why do we submit and what is the motivation?

When it came to sex, I learned early on that it wasn't what I did that brought pleasure, but how it was perceived by my partner.  An orgasm lasts a very short time, but the memories of how the orgasm was acheived can last indefinitely.

From various posts, alot of subs seem to think that the act of foot worship, et al, is what pleases the Dom/me; but it really seems that how the Dom/me perceives the submission is what is really the source of the pleasure.

There is the facesitting thread, eating cum, foot worship, cuckolding, watersports, CBT and all sorts of other threads on every imaginable "act".  What is the subs motivation in doing any of these activities?

Is cuckolding about how the sub enjoys watching his Domme with other men, or cleaning her up; or is it about the fact that he's willing to allow her physical pleasure with other men?  Whether she takes another man or not, wouldn't the knowledge of knowing her sub was comfortable enough with their relationship to be okay with her taking other men for her pleasure?

Watersports, is it so much the humilation for the sub, or is it the subs willingness to submit to the Dom/mes obvious display of domination?  Does drinking involve degradation or does taking something of little importance to the Dom/me (let's face it, you pee and flush it away, it's not important) and take it inside of yourself show that something of little consequence to them is important to you?

I've always known that what I do to please my partner between the ears is more important than what I do between their legs.  It's not whether you kiss their feet, but how you do it that matters.

To me, submission is doing something to please another whom you hold in high regard, more for their pleasure than for yours.

I don't see the lifestyle as being much different than my vanilla life in that respect.

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RE: Submission for the Dom/me - 1/23/2007 3:17:04 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine
To me, submission is doing something to please another whom you hold in high regard, more for their pleasure than for yours.

I don't see the lifestyle as being much different than my vanilla life in that respect.

That's a form of submission, not universal though. 

What about a master who holds his slave in high regard, and does something to please their slave, more for the slaves pleasure than the masters?

I know that might cause a few horrified glances...but I don't see anything wrong with it.

You are right- it's not the act, it's the motivation.  But for me, it's simply motivation to follow another's authority.  The devotion, worship, sacrifice, service, etc are all expressions of inner feelings, but that's not solely the domain of the submissive.

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RE: Submission for the Dom/me - 1/23/2007 7:24:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine
To me, submission is doing something to please another whom you hold in high regard, more for their pleasure than for yours.


A great post, but I find it hard to define submission in these terms only. I have "servant master" branded on my arm. One of the meanings of that is that I feel it's an honor to serve my friends, no matter what their, or my, station. I've been in service to a Master/slave couple for a weekend when they really needed someone. It was very fulfilling...but it didn't make me submissive.

For me, it's the intent behind what we do...whatever we do...that makes the difference. I can give my girl a backrub and it's me being sweet to my girl. she can give me a backrub and it's an act of total devotion. Same act, different intent, both done for the pleasure of their partner.

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