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One or the other - 1/23/2007 10:44:52 PM   
mogigo


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I'm having a problem putting these labels on people,  transgendered was a label I felt summed up myself very well but I'm still having a problem accepting this as a finality. I know I'm sexually submissive but I don't relate to the dominant aspect of one or the other when it comes to life. Equality seems to be the best tag I can find, but of course this doesn't seem like a label. More of a goal. Am I barking up the wrong tree by being here. The aspect of a dominant women is so........attractive, but again I don't want to label it. Is there middle ground to be found?

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RE: One or the other - 1/23/2007 11:34:09 PM   
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You don't have to be anything other than sexually submissive. Just be sure to state that clearly in your profile, although there are morons out there who will say you're not "real" because you're not submissive in relationships, just in bed. But it doesn't make you any less real if you're being honest and admitting what you like so nobody gets into things with the wrong expectations.

And you're not barking up the wrong tree. Being here is just fine if you're a sexual sub, a 24/7 slave, or anything in that vast spectrum in between.


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RE: One or the other - 1/24/2007 8:24:31 AM   
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Equality between what? Being sexuall submissive doesn't have anything to do with being transgendered, either. I'm confused.

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RE: One or the other - 1/24/2007 8:33:04 AM   
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When you get a firmer grasp on the idea that submission does not make one less than a Dominant partner you'll find your place.
My slave is no less than I am, she holds an equal value overall to me. The distribution of power and authority in the relationship does not have anything to do with the intrinsic value of either of us. It has to do with the way we set up the power and authority in our relationship.
I happen to be happier and more fulfilled when I have the authority and power in the relationship, lucky for me I have a counterpart who is happier and more fulfilled when she does not have the power and authority.
Niether of us believe that it makes one ofusmore valuable than the other, in fact a person who wanted to struggle over the power and authority would be less valuable to me and a person who didn't want the reins of authority in the relationship would be less valuable to her.

Value is a relative term and depends on what each party wants, if you have 4 eggs and I hate eggs then those eggs are worth little to me.
If you have those eggs and I need them for a cake then they have alot of value for me.

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RE: One or the other - 1/24/2007 9:12:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Archer

When you get a firmer grasp on the idea that submission does not make one less than a Dominant partner you'll find your place.
My slave is no less than I am, she holds an equal value overall to me. The distribution of power and authority in the relationship does not have anything to do with the intrinsic value of either of us. It has to do with the way we set up the power and authority in our relationship.
I happen to be happier and more fulfilled when I have the authority and power in the relationship, lucky for me I have a counterpart who is happier and more fulfilled when she does not have the power and authority.
Niether of us believe that it makes one ofusmore valuable than the other, in fact a person who wanted to struggle over the power and authority would be less valuable to me and a person who didn't want the reins of authority in the relationship would be less valuable to her.

Value is a relative term and depends on what each party wants, if you have 4 eggs and I hate eggs then those eggs are worth little to me.
If you have those eggs and I need them for a cake then they have alot of value for me.



Ummm...was this to me or a fast reply? I was merely asking for clarification from the OP as I didn't understand the question they were trying to ask. My comprehension abilities might still be compromised from SWLC, though. LOL

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RE: One or the other - 1/24/2007 9:22:20 AM   
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People seem to put too much value in labels.  Yes i am submissive but that is part of who and what i am it is not a label i give myself.  Why worry about labels? Just be who and what you are.

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RE: One or the other - 1/24/2007 10:32:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam



Ummm...was this to me or a fast reply? I was merely asking for clarification from the OP as I didn't understand the question they were trying to ask. My comprehension abilities might still be compromised from SWLC, though. LOL

Master Frie



Master Frie? I think your name was compromised at SWLC. grin


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RE: One or the other - 1/24/2007 10:36:32 AM   
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Thanks, lol I guess it only makes sense in my mind : ) I think Archer summed it up best, I'm just trying to find where I fit.

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RE: One or the other - 1/24/2007 12:06:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elegant

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam



Ummm...was this to me or a fast reply? I was merely asking for clarification from the OP as I didn't understand the question they were trying to ask. My comprehension abilities might still be compromised from SWLC, though. LOL

Master Frie



Hey, at least they got it right on the name tag. Maybe I should wear it on a permanent basis. I do have it tattooed on my body....but in kanji. LOL

Master FIRE (I think)

Master Frie? I think your name was compromised at SWLC. grin



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RE: One or the other - 1/26/2007 1:09:54 PM   
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People are not soup cans they shouldn't be labled Personally i think if you're submissive in bed or 24/7 either way you're still submissive. The people who depend on lables are just idiots who need to be reminded what they are. i'm a sub and if someone tells me i'm not that's their problum not mine. i know what i am and i'm proud of it. So mogigo don't worry about lables just be who you are and don't worry what others say or lable you as.

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RE: One or the other - 1/26/2007 1:25:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SlaveChezu
The people who depend on lables are just idiots who need to be reminded what they are.


Damn...my name tag just fell off. Who am I?

Labels are useful as communication tools. Humans dig labels, for the most part...that's why we have the whole modern taxonomy hierarchy. I'd not called those labels stupid or the people who use them idiotic.

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RE: One or the other - 1/26/2007 1:47:40 PM   
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Lemme see: transgendered,transexual,bi,gay,homosexual,queer,straight,hetrosexual,top,bottom,switch,Dom,Domme,slave,sub. And im positive I have left out about 100 other tags just to keep this brief(my minds a bit out of it due to meds from surgery;)
Hell just be who you are and screw everyone else.
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RE: One or the other - 1/26/2007 2:09:40 PM   
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Labels are a nessisary thing, the human mind functions on the basis of similarity and differences to known things.
Sort of the way you play 20 questions, Animal, Vegitable or Mineral?

Tomato- flowering fruit of the nightshade family.
Label Tomato
Label Flower
Label Fruit
Label Nightshade
Each would be correct but only one is specific enough to identify the plant.

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RE: One or the other - 1/26/2007 4:45:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gandalf0297
Hell just be who you are and screw everyone else.
Gandalf


That would make one an Omnisexual, no?

If you can't label what you are looking for, it is often much harder to find.

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