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CruelDomina -> A Primer for male submissives (5/13/2004 9:00:31 PM)

A Primer for Male Submissives





A Primer For Male Submissives: What Female Dominants are REALLY Looking For


<<<< ”Hello Mistress. i beg of You to forgive me for this intrusion. <bowing naked before the beautiful Mistress> i am a submissive male seeking a Mistress. i wish only to follow Your every command……i LIVE to please You. Please allow me to be Your unworthy slave. i promise i will follow Your every command. i will crawl across broken glass for You…i will shave my head in tribute to You…i will carve Your initials on my scrotum… i am Yours to use and abuse. Please, beautiful Mistress…” >>>>

On the other end of the line, my newly discovered ‘submissive’ is longing to hear me say, “YES slave!! You are MINE!!! Grovel for me and prove your unworthiness, WORM!”

My true reaction? I sighed heavily, shook my head in disbelief, then responded:

<<<< “ Good evening. :) I am well, thank you for asking. Yes, the weather IS lovely here in Maine tonight. Would I like to chat with you a few minutes? Yes….thank you for asking….” >>>>

At which point, the reply I usually receive is a well thought out:

<<<< “Huh?? What??” >>>>

Being a female Dominant, especially one who occasionally ventures online, is NOT an easy task. Ask any Domme you know - I’ll bet they have received more than a few instant messages like the one above.

Many submissive males, especially those online, seem to believe that all female Dominants are looking for a compliant, powerless submissive who will prostrate themselves 24 hours a day. These men mistakenly feel that the only way women will be interested in accepting them, as their submissive, is if they show their submission constantly and strongly. After all, a Domme seeks a partner who will never speak unless spoken to, never show his intellect, never look her in the eyes, and never, never, never wants to be treated as her equal. Right?

Wrong.

Of course, I can’t speak for every female Dominant - after all, there are those few who long to have a submissive who follows the example of my friendly internet suitor….but, for the most part, Dommes seek a partner who knows when to be a ‘submissive’ and when to be a ‘companion.’

Part of the problem many new (and some seasoned) male submissives experience is too much fantasy in their lives - mainly the S/m themed advertisements, the badly made domination films, and magazines that show vicious women manhandling their compliant and appreciative submissive males. For many men, especially those who have never had a chance to venture out into BDSM society or clubs, these images are the real thing. After all, the media doesn't lie, do they?

But, as stated, this is fantasy. The reality is something completely different. And it is a reality that most male submissives either didn’t know existed - and are happy to discover - or reject automatically because the danger of the fantasy is more appealing than following the rules.

Gentlemen….I have news for you. Listen up, because what I am going to say will change your life….and hopefully your tactics!

A good Domme wants……an equal partner. A man who is confident, intelligent, caring, patient, has a good sense of humor, appreciates his partner, and realizes that a Domme/sub relationship is a 50/50 prospect. That is not to say that the power exchange doesn’t swing in the Dominant’s direction - just that, when you get down to it, the Dominant cannot take unless the submissive gives…and for that to occur, the underlying relationship must be equivalent.

Sort of sounds like most relationships to you? It should. Deep down, most relationships - straight, gay, BDSM - are emotionally and socially pretty much the same. It is merely our means of sexual gratification that differ.

Dommes are human, too. We require stimulating conversation. We enjoy a good challenge. We welcome genuine emotion and intelligence. In other words, we want a real person. On the few occasions that I have replied to one of my sniveling IM’s, and told men this, they seem completely confused.

Here is a sample of my “dream” IM from a submissive male:

<<<< “Good Evening, Mistress How are you this lovely evening? Are you interested in discussing the world global warming effects over the Arctic?” >>>>

:) Ok…not quite…..but you get the point.

Intelligence is sexy. A ‘worthy opponent’ is a turn on. A submissive who is fun, witty, bold, a wonderful companion, and who dares to look you in the eye and ask questions is a worthy partner. Confidence, bearing, and the knowledge of WHEN to act submissive is equally important.

Having said this, I’m going to tell you in depth what most Dommes are looking for….

Intelligence

BDSM partnerships aren’t all play, play, play! A Domme wants a partner with whom she can carry on an intelligent conversation. Have you ever heard the saying ‘the sexiest organ is the brain?’ It’s true! You don’t have to be a Rhodes scholar, but being able to discuss something other than cbt is a huge plus!

It takes intelligence to be a submissive. Submissives need to know the intricacies of both submission and Dominance just as well as Dominants do. After all - how else would a sub know if the Dominant is doing something incorrectly? Also, having a submissive who is intellectually as well as physically stimulating helps to keep partnerships intense, fresh, and interesting. :)

A submissive who takes the initiative to continue learning about BDSM on their own time is also highly prized. BDSM is ever evolving - and a submissive who takes the time to stay current is not only an asset to his Mistress, but also to other submissives, who may look up to him as a Mentor.

Honesty

Nothing kills a relationship - any kind of relationship - faster than dishonesty. Be honest about your expectations, desires, needs, and wants. Also, be completely honest about partnership, family commitments, etc. Some men avoid honesty, fearing that it will ‘ruin their chances’ of finding a partner, especially if they have family obligations. But it is far better to be upfront than to be deceitful.

Some subs are dishonest about their play likes and dislikes in the scene. They worry that if they are not willing to do ‘anything,’ they will be perceived as ‘difficult’ or ‘topping from the bottom.’ As a Domme, I immediately disregard emails from submissives that state that they will do ‘anything’ or that they have no limits. Everyone has limits, likes, and dislikes, and one should be comfortable stating them, especially in a close partnership. A good Domme will appreciate your honesty. Besides…it gives you both something to work up to, right?

Self Confidence

There are very few Dommes I have met who want a ‘doormat’ - a submissive who lives only to please, cannot think for himself, and gains his self-confidence ONLY from serving. Most female Dommes want a male submissive who is able to ‘stand tall’ even when he is kneeling - somebody who is confident about his position as a submissive and realizes that it makes him wanted and admired. Gentlemen - self-confidence is SEXY!

A self-confident submissive is a delight to withhold. He is sure of his value, comfortable of his worth, and displays his self-confidence with quiet pride, but never arrogance. He knows that when he makes mistakes, he will benefit from them by learning from them. His posture is straight, his physical positions are held comfortably, and his face is serene but focused. A self-confidant submissive has about him his own aura of control - and this adds not only to his worth, but also his Dominant’s pride.

Responsibility

Submission is a position of responsibility! Very often, submissives have chores and rules assigned to them - and it is expected that the submissive be responsible and follow them. Submissives who do not show responsibility do not retain their partners for long!

Responsibility extends far beyond completing chores - being on time when meeting your

Dominant, knowing how to care for your Dominant without constantly being reminded, being prepared for play sessions, taking responsibility for packing, unpacking, and cleaning toys when necessary….the list goes on.

Responsibility also extends to your life beyond submission - your career, your family, and other aspects of existence, as we know it. A sub’s life should be full and varied - not based only on serving - and a sub MUST recognize when their real-life responsibilities take precedence over their BDSM lives. Family, work, military duty, and previously scheduled personal events (such as weddings, vacations, etc.) must come first.

Very often, new submissives - who fear losing or upsetting a Dominant partner - will place serving before his real life obligations. A GOOD Domme will encourage a sub to remember his priorities and will work with him to find a schedule that accommodates both partners (remember our 50/50 lesson from earlier?). Any Dominant who insists that NOTHING come before her is NOT a Dominant worth having!

And yes….you have my permission to repeat that. <grin>

Dependability

Speaking of submissive responsibilities…..another trait that is very important - especially to Female Dommes - is dependability. I cannot tell you how many times I, have been disappointed by a sub’s failure to fulfill an assignment, or how many times I, and other Dommes I know, have agreed to meet with a submissive, only to have him either show up extremely late, or not show up at all! Being dependable is important!

Of course, life happens…traffic jams, unexpected problems at home…last minute assignments at work…..and a good submissive will immediately contact a potential Domme and let her know of any delays or the need to renegotiate the time schedule of an assignment. It is far better to offer an honest explanation, and beg for leniency! <grin>

Caring

You don’t have to cry at Hallmark commercials…but having a sense of genuine caring and compassion is important. Your sense of caring should go beyond just your Domme…..empathy toward your fellow submissives and brothers and sisters in BDSM is very important.

It is also very important that you have a sense of caring about yourself. No Domme wants a pitiful person who endlessly knocks himself down. When you care about yourself, you are much more capable of caring about others. Caring is one of the bases of human relationships, whether that relationship be BDSM or vanilla. You don’t have to be ‘Mr. Merry Sunshine’ 24 hours a day - everyone is entitled to their down times - but being upbeat, pleasant, and caring toward yourself not only adds years to your life - it helps you find a partner a lot faster.

A Sense of Humor

BDSM is a wonderful thing…and like all wonderful things, it can go absolutely, completely wrong! So having a good sense of humor is very important. Sure - BDSM can be really serious stuff - but it should also be FUN. If we don’t laugh at it, and during it, every now and then, we become quite boring!

Some of the best BDSM relationships I have seen are the ones where partners share humor between each other. There is nothing wrong with a Domme and sub knowing when to kid and gently push each other’s buttons - a bit of mischief adds to the spice of the relationship - and gives Dommes a reason to break out the paddles! <evil grin>

Of course, there is a time and place for humor…and a well trained submissive will know the difference. But again…FUN is the key!

Creativity

When your Domme asks you to do something special for her, creativity counts. Male submissives who are able to show their affection and gratitude in a creative manner are greatly prized! Creativity may also extend into sceneing - helping a Domme script new adventures and helping to set the scene.

Creativity is the one part of submission that sets most submissives apart…..most submissive will run a bath for their Mistress…it is the ‘creative’ sub who dims the lights, places out scented candles, and provides himself as a side table on which to place her drink and book while she relaxes in the tub. :)

Manners

The art of being a Gentleman has not died. Male submissives who follow the basic rules of societal etiquette are greatly prized! Even in this day and age, a woman appreciates having a man open a door for her…and A Domme is no exception.

Manners are the basis of the portion of the BDSM community known as the ‘Old Guard,’ where Emily Post would feel right at home, and military protocols rule. Of course, you don’t have to be one of the few and the proud to have manners….just remember what Mom taught you, and you should be able to impress not only your Domme, but also everyone else observing you while in service.

An Adventurous Streak

As stated earlier, everyone has their limits, but the submissive who is willing to be adventurous and try something new, stretching his limits, is a wondrous thing. A submissive who is willing to take that one extra stroke to experience the sensations that occur just past his threshold, or the submissive who will try something totally outrageous for the thrill of it, will not only discover something new within himself, but will also be a delight to his Dominant. After all, Dominants’ enjoy pushing limits and seeing just how much a submissive can endure…..

Common Sense

They say that ‘common sense’ isn’t all that common….and, unfortunately, among some male submissives, that saying is true.

Common sense seems like a trivial thing - but it isn’t. Common sense is very important and prized by many Dommes. For example….

Would you send a sexually explicit, practically pornographic description of your mating habits to a woman on a vanilla dating site? Would you include a picture of your little one-eyed friend? Ahhh….No. So……why would you send a letter like that to a Domme?

Good Grooming Habits

You’d think I wouldn’t have to extol the virtues of soap and water, BUT………

Dommes want a partner they would be proud to ‘show off’ in public. Cleanliness and neatness count! Don’t greet your Domme at the local Munch in your best WWF T-shirt….show her you care by dressing for her. A tux isn’t necessary - but a clean, pressed shirt and pants that don’t have worn out knees are nice.

A submissive is a ‘representative’ of a Dominant…and the appearance of the submissive reflects upon the Dominant. Always present yourself looking your best, whether it be your first meeting or your 101st. After all, you want other Dommes to look at you and envy your Mistress, Right?


The REAL you!

Be yourself. This is the simplest advice that most male submissives forget to follow….and the one thing almost every female Domme is seeking…..the REAL you. Don’t try too hard to be something you are not….a Domme will see through this. Yes, you should make a good first impression, but always try to relax and let your true self shine through, because THIS is the person a Domme wants to meet. Have faith in yourself….and the rest will all work out.




Sinergy -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/13/2004 9:53:01 PM)

Hello,

When I am approached by people wanting to be my submissive, my personal reactions are as follows.

1) Somebody asking me if they can be my submissive and do whatever I command them to do.

I usually think something on the order of "paint my house."

2) Somebody asking me to tie them up, beat them, sodomize them, bang them senseless, etc.

I usually think "I want dinner and a movie before I put out."

From my perspective, I want relationship more than I want the incidentals that come with a relationship, but that is just me.

Sinergy




ShadeDiva -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/14/2004 1:04:07 AM)

All I can say is:

Bravo!!! Well stated!

Too bad that the ones that NEED to read that will most likely never bother to.

LOL!

~ShadeDiva




MistressDREAD -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/14/2004 1:53:23 AM)


I disagree with
Your statements
Cruel




MizSuz -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/14/2004 5:44:26 AM)

Cruel,

You have described quite well my own preferences. I won't say that it's always what I am willing to consider, but it is usually what I am willing to consider. Often it depends on the role I have in mind for the submissive. If it's simply a service position then much of what you've described is preferable but not in all counts necessary. But for having someone in my life as an alpha I would have to say you are on the money, for me anyway.

Sinergy,

I had to laugh out loud at your comment "I want dinner and a movie before I put out." Hilarious, and dead on point. I liken this to being approached as if I were a life support system for a whip.

My preference is to have whole individuals in my life. They 'add value.'

Sniveling doesn't turn me on physically, emotionally or mentally.




Thanatosian -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/14/2004 6:45:59 AM)

quote:

I usually think something on the order of "paint my house."


Thank you Rosie Odonnell Exit to Eden[;)]




iwillserveu -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/14/2004 1:18:51 PM)

Sorry, CruelDomina,

Nice try, but worms can't read. [:)]

(I took out "wee" before worms because I don't want to be constantly explaining that is not a typo, but means "little".)




BlackGoddess -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/25/2004 6:18:44 AM)

*applauds*

I couldn't have said it better myself (well, maybe LOL)! I may want to post that on my website once a renovate it again. Of course with your permission and all credit will go to you.




yeehaw -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/25/2004 8:49:26 AM)

That was incredibly well written.

I think a dichotomy has evolved in the BDSM community between extreme fantasy that can never become real and the reality of BDSM and D/s which can never become the stuff of fantasy. Do you have children, a career, a ton of friends you don't relate to in a sexual way? Then you know what I mean.

I joined this forum/website to find reality-seeking good people, as friends or lovers. (if I should be so lucky) Either is equally valuable.

It can be hard to find like minded folk, but in a thread on common sense and real life BDSM sexuality, I find encouragment.

Thanks Cruel, well done indeed.




LadyLilith -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/25/2004 2:24:49 PM)

That is soo very, very true! I don't know why people can't get that. I actually had a guy drop to his knees before me in a shopping mall, once, and I was with a vanilla friend. Where he would get an idea that that was acceptable behavior, I have no idea.

Most of these guys need to learn the difference between fantasy and reality.

Lilith




topcat -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/25/2004 2:50:39 PM)

Milady Lilith-

Welcome aboard- I am the same Lawrence from tribe. How nice to see you here!

quote:

I actually had a guy drop to his knees before me in a shopping mall, once, and I was with a vanilla friend. Where he would get an idea that that was acceptable behavior, I have no idea.


It's not just males, sadly. I do know where one got such ideas....

I was once out at a club with a co-worker, his girlfriend, and their friends. I had be flirting with one of his GF's friends, J., when she suddenly seemed to go a bit distant, and I backed off.

Unbeknowst to me, the GF had gotten her aside, and warned her that I was into 'that stuff'.

Unbeknownst to the GF, J. had a real, deep, and totally secret desire for 'that stuff'.

Things had gotten as good as they'd get at that club, and I had things to meet and people to do, so I said my goodbyes and left. I was out in the lot, fumbling around with my helmet and gloves prior to getting on the bike, and I heard

"Buy me, Master?"

I turned around, and there was J., kneeling in the gravel, naked.

I blinked shook my head, and looked again. She was still there. I finally manged to say something along the lines of 'put on your clothes, and don't call me master- I work for a living...' (she later remarked that she thought it was so cool that I was so cuasal that I took my time to consider what to do with her.. of course, I was actually so flabbergasted I couldn't speak<g>).

I didn't 'buy' her, as it goes. She was too young, she didn't smoke, she lived at home, etc., but I did speak to her a few times about the scene, and what she was looking for. The first time we met at a Starbucks, she brought along a shoe box with a few tattered Gor books in it, which she showed me by way of explaining that that was how she knew how to approch me<g>.

Stay warm,
Lawrence




ShadeDiva -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/25/2004 7:45:18 PM)

Awwwwww

At once, both sweet and a tad horrifying.

She picked a good one to do that with though, many fellas would have taken advantage of her inexperience.

*smile*

~ShadeDiva




topcat -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/25/2004 8:40:11 PM)

quote:

At once, both sweet and a tad horrifying.


M. Shade-

Exactly that.

quote:

many fellas would have taken advantage of her inexperience.


Ahh, but I have sworn never to use my powers for evil! I was tempted, though. it crossed my mind that if I got on the bike and told her to follow me on foot, naked, she probably would have<eg>.

Stay warm,
Lawrence




ShadeDiva -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (5/26/2004 12:29:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: topcat
Ahh, but I have sworn never to use my powers for evil! I was tempted, though. it crossed my mind that if I got on the bike and told her to follow me on foot, naked, she probably would have<eg>.

Stay warm,
Lawrence


LOTS of things would have crossed my mind.

Most of them being stuff I'd decide not to do.

LOL

~ShadeDiva




JadeLady -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (6/14/2004 8:04:36 PM)

I was in shock as I started reading. Bravo!! CruelDomina.

I was beginning to think I was strange or unique. You stated it correctly and perfectly. What I have seen both online and in realtime have made we wonder about a lot of the dominate people out there.

I do not want a doormat, I already have several of those in my house. I want exactly what you described. In fact, I want the whole ball of wax. I want a sub with slave tendencies or a slave, plus a friend and lover to boot. After all the profiles I have read here and the number of ones I have talked to, I am beginning to wonder if there is really someone like that out there. However, I am stubborn and do not want to settle for less.

Be well. Be safe.




DomRaymond -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (6/15/2004 5:52:23 PM)

[:-]JadeLady what you are looking for in a man I am looking for in a woman. You ever think about being a switch. LOL[:D]




iwillserveu -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (6/15/2004 6:18:14 PM)

DomRaymond,

I know it was a joke. This is just a joke.

Why can't you switch?[:D]




ShadeDiva -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (6/16/2004 2:34:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: iwillserveu
Why can't you switch?


ROFL

I am SO glad I wasn't drinking my juice when I read that! lol

~ShadeDiva




Voltare -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (6/16/2004 8:48:45 AM)

CruelDomina,

Fantastic posting - thank you for the well written essay. From my perspective, the same holds true not just for men, but to many degrees with male dominants and female submissives (or any other combination) as the dynamics involved are the same (in my opinion.) Obviously, there are men and women who are only interested in experiancing the fantasy or casual play - and others who desire only the relationship, and most people fall somewhere in between. My first thought with a slave who says "please make me ur fuck toy" in their first couple letters is that she probably does this with lots of guys till she finds one, lives out the fantasy, and then moves on. My second thought is, if she is that promiscuous in real life, why exactly is she online in the first place? If all a woman wants is kink, it only takes an hour at a munch or play party to find it.

And, as I've said before, I don't think online is the very best place to 'find' love - though it's certainly a great place to find a date for the weekend depending on your location (grins.) Anyone want to take a trip to Buenos Aires with me this weekend? The dancing is great!

Stephan




anthrosub -> RE: A Primer for male submissives (6/16/2004 3:21:47 PM)

As a male submissive who has gone through the ranks enough to be able to say:

"The more i know, the more i realize i don't know."

i just want to say...very well done. i particularly liked the discussion of how people get caught up in the fantasy and start "living in their head" (my words). It's a shame there isn't more discussion out there to help education the unwitting. i know many will get there eventually but it would do wonders for increasing the population of educated people in this lifestyle.

Thanks again for your efforts.

anthrosub




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