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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/7/2005 4:45:14 AM

EmeraldSlave2

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That is my point entirely- life creates far more difficult tests and situations to endure than I ever could think of or feel ethical in creating- death of family, loss of job, people moving, sickness, stress, healing from all that past crap we had to go through, THOSE are the tests of life and THAT is how you find out someone's true character, time together.

Not being stubborn and forcing them to step up to the plate and dominate you like you want with artificial passive aggressive ploys.

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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/7/2005 6:04:20 AM

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Great post Darth!

I find it intriguing when people discuss and state about strong submissives. Often brat pops up. I find that its usually people who have no concept of what submissives or slaves are truely capable of. Is that not a disrespect?

A strong submissive?
Or a person who knows their own limits?

A strong submissive?
Or a person who understands the concept of communication?

A strong submissive?
Or a person who knows their own worth, be they owned or on their own?

A strong submissive?
Or a person who knows their desires and understands the service they can offer?

A strong submissive?
Or a person who understands that what they do, how they act and what they say isn't just a reflection on them, but reflects more about the person who Owns them.

A strong submissive?
Or a person able to articulate without fear of judgement, because ultimately, they understand that the only person whos opinions they need to worry about is that of their Owner/Dominant?

Strength isn't about what a person does to test a person, about the control taken, about how playful a sub/slave/kajira can be.

The strength comes from knowing oneself.

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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/7/2005 6:15:37 AM

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quote:

The strength comes from knowing oneself.

Beautifully said....as usual....welcome back Angel.

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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/7/2005 6:21:58 AM

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wonderfully said Angel

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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/7/2005 6:39:31 AM

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The boards have gotten brighter!!!!

Dearest Angel is back.... welcome back sis...

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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/7/2005 11:52:49 AM

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I find powerful women to be extremely attractive. There's a definate feeling of accomplishment in dominating a powerful woman. I don't think I would enjoy the exchange nearly as much with a woman who was a "milktoast sub".

For a woman who is extremely capable, powerful, determined, and confident, to set aside the control she has over her own life and allow me that control is a very powerful statement.

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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/7/2005 1:22:42 PM

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i have 2 problems with this.
one is i tend to be the kind of person, ''my'' ideas/feelings, come from my vanilla feelings. so i speak out as vanilla. not as what i am told is a proper slave boy.

the other is i don't know when to shut up.

good or bad. that's me.
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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/7/2005 4:06:36 PM

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erin...
my love and thanks to your wb! Hugz to you as always

stormi...
hugs and kisses sister... and thank you... Angel blushes! Peace and love to your house.

I think sisters I was away to long...lol... dust on the keyboard is never a good sign!

ty for your kind words baudeight, and Angel welcomes you to collarme!

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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/8/2005 6:38:57 AM

stormiKnightBEAR

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rofl!!!!!

Outlaw, had to laugh at your line "never know when to shut up".

seems we share something.... LOL

Master agrees with MrThorns in that He would rather know that it is
willingly set aside and that the control is given to Him rather than
have a door mat. Nothing ticks Master off quicker than being a doormat.

Be Well,
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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/8/2005 1:07:15 PM

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Heh.

I think that manners are incredibly important, no matter what side of the whip you're on. So I will be as polite as possible when in ANY group of people, and will expect the same from them. Submission and obedience, for me, is reserved solely for my dominant. I would behave exactly the same in a group of dominants as I would in a group of submissives or a group of vanilla people: I would engage in the conversation, make eye contact, try not to interrupt or be rude, argue my points with civility and logic and occasional humor, and otherwise conduct myself as a civilized and well-mannered person. That's because all those groups are, to me, exactly the same. They're all made up of people. People, to me, get the full measure of human-to-human consideration and respect, until and unless they demonstrate that they deserve less than that (and this happens a lot, with dominants, submissives and whatevers), or they deserve more (in which case, I will attempt to attach myself like a limpet. *grin*). I'm not going to make some huge screaming scene about it, though, no matter what...I'll simply remove myself from the presence of the people who aren't worthy of my time, and endeavor to spend more time with the people I respect and admire. The idea that I'd change my behavior or get all hysterical about speaking 'out of turn,' or, for example, cede an argument I was winning, just because the person I was talking to styled him or herself 'dominant,' is completely alien to me.

Should my dominant require specific and more detailed behavior of me, beyond this, in a public place, I would reply upon him to let me know in detail, so I wouldn't misstep. But that's the baseline. I don't think it makes me a SAM or a pushy sub, just...y'know....a person. *grin*

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RE: Strong Submissives - 3/8/2005 1:14:09 PM

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I quite enjoyed reading through this thread this afternoon and I agree with most of which is said here. I've seen the topic come up many times over the past 6 months, in various forms of course and here are some of the thoughts I have posted elsewhere on this subject.

I've often said that a good sub boy is like a guard dog. He is stands proud, is impressive and intimidating somewhat to others, ensures my safety and comfort, is alert and ready for anything, is at my feet and obeying my every command.

When I walk into a room with one of these virile, desirous and passionate men, whether it be in a regular or kinky setting, I love to feel the envy of other women, and certain men, when they see my man. <weg>

The same goes for the women I date. In fact, my last female sub often gets mistaken for a Domme when she goes to fetish parties.

- LA

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