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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 8:35:34 AM   
SlyStone


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Beating a women is beating a women, end of story.
Beating a women is sick, end of story.
You beat women, end of story.
Therefore you are sick, end of story.



Based on how people usually take my posts I had better add that the above is sarcasm.


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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 8:48:26 AM   
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According to statistics I read not long ago, a half of all men and two thirds of all women cheat on their partner. Maybe those stats are wrong but other stats give very high rates of cheating too so I guess cheating is part of human nature. It sucks but insisting its wrong isn't going to change it so is it really worth worrying about?


This fucking thread repeats itself every three to four months. It may as well be a paint by numbers sketch. The hardliners are all invariably unmarried: chichenhawks of life-long monogamy and marital simplicity.

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 8:52:23 AM   
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The hardliners are all invariably unmarried: chichenhawks of life-long monogamy and marital simplicity.


Invariably? I held this stance twenty years ago, I held it when I GOT MARRIED 7 years ago after the first few years of that relationship. I will still hold it after next month when I get My decree nici and I will continue to hold it when I take My next (2nd but last) wife!

Looks variable to Me! Wrong again cloudy? Not the first time is it!


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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 8:56:34 AM   
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If you cannot make that distinction there is no sense arguing with you, your focus is to narrow and your mind is set. One thing is sure, you would make a poor judge  because your focus is only on the crime itself. Even our court system allows for circumstances that effect the criminal.

Even a murderer in our court system would get a fairer trial than a cheater that violates your morality which is funny because what we do violates most peoples morality far more than any cheating, and that is for sure. 



You will actually find more advocating of redemption, forgiveness, reform and rehabilitation for murderers and rapists on these boards, than you will for 'cheaters'.

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 8:58:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
The hardliners are all invariably unmarried: chichenhawks of life-long monogamy and marital simplicity.


Invariably? I held this stance twenty years ago, I held it when I GOT MARRIED 7 years ago after the first few years of that relationship. I will still hold it after next month when I get My decree nici and I will continue to hold it when I take My next (2nd but last) wife!




If you get divorced, you break a vow.  You betray a promise to stay with someone for better or worse.

Breaking a vow is breaking a vow. 

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 9:01:07 AM   
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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 9:18:48 AM   
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If you get divorced, you break a vow.  You betray a promise to stay with someone for better or worse.

Breaking a vow is breaking a vow.


Lol look at the appologists for liars clutching at straws. Not that it is actualy relevant but despite Me being the wronged party.... she was the one to apply for the divorce (Wanting to re-marry). I'd have forgone marrying again to hold to My promise... but now I have other options.

Barking up the wrong tree there sweetie :-D


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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 9:27:41 AM   
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You will actually find more advocating of redemption, forgiveness, reform and rehabilitation for murderers and rapists on these boards, than you will for 'cheaters'.


Well, in this thread, the OP didn't ask about any of that.  If they had, I certainly would have gone into it, being a former cheater myself.

What they asked what specifically how we should define doing things with another without the spouse's consent.  So that's what I responded to.

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 9:41:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I forgot you are all just flotsam...no responsiblity for anything that happens to you or within your relationship....You are all just carried helplessly by the tides...."life just happens."...Get some fucking stones!  You allowed this to happen by not tackling the probems initially...like when your wife/husband lost interest in fucking you...you stayed silent or just skipped down the path ignoring all of the signs and hoped things would get better...And now look at you! Justifying your actions under some weak or rediculous guise for fucking others and then say you are doing it "for the good of the kids!"

The kids would be better off in a home with happiness and love than one filled with lies and coexistance...But I expect nothing less from people who are unable to take responsibility for their own actions...and will blame what they do on others or poor choices or other pathetic extenuating circumstance.

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MarieToo
If you get divorced, you break a vow.  You betray a promise to stay with someone for better or worse.

Breaking a vow is breaking a vow. 


"Staying with some when it gets "worse" does not mean fucking other people...Are you all really this short sighted and/or weak?   I wonder how Mr marieToo would feel about this?

If you are going to cheat tell your spouse and hopefully they are poly and you can get your groove on...otherwise get out...loose half of your shit...AND BE HAPPY AND HONEST!!!!! What a bunch of pathetic fucks!  Hard to imagine people coming out to tout such actions and then provide some lame excuse...as justification!!! Like it can be rationalized...All it says is that you are dishonest, lack character, are unable to face the truth, are unable to communicate effectively, and would rather run from your demons than face them....Sounds like you are all quite a catch...Where do I get me some of this?

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 9:55:51 AM   
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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 10:02:13 AM   
SlyStone


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Status: offline 		The only person here who said they had cheated was LA. Perhaps she is the only one courageous enough with "shortsighted pathetic fucks" commenting on their actions or perhaps no one else has cheated and we all exist here in a vacuum of perfection. As far as I know no one here is condoning cheating.

I have never cheated on a spouse , not that it is any of your business, but what I am trying to say is that for me this is another case of understanding that people make mistakes in a relationship and things are not always as they appear to be and a group of people who are judged mentally ill for engaging in a given practice should be able to see this.

Or not. 

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 10:11:12 AM   
SlaveAkasha


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We all make mistakes, thats for sure.  I never cheated on my lover, but I did tell her upfront what I was going to do, and kept her informed every step of the way.  I wonder now if that wasn't worse than hiding it from her, but I can't go back.
 
I was with men that cheated on their wives, its not something I am proud of, not by any means.  Things do happen though, things I never thought in my life I would do.  I was going thru a lot right then, but that doesn't make it right.  I hope I never do it again, but I can't say I never will, I have learned that over the past couple of years.  I can say I hope that life doesn't put me back in the position where I feel that is the right choice for me again.
 
Seems we are very quick to judge others of their wrongs around here, but we need to look at all of the things in our lives we wish we hadn't done, or probably shouldn't have done.  We are human, mistakes come with that.  One is not worse, nor better than another.
 
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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 10:18:34 AM   
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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 11:01:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gentlethistle

In general, people here seem to be wildly oposed to it...but I guess I should let them all line up and tell you themselves how dreadful low-down, cheating, hypocritical...etc etc...


See...I knew they would.  They don't like 'cheating'.  And because they don't like cheating and lying, not one of them has ever appropriated office stationery or been party to a 'cash in hand' transaction or told their spouse that their bum doesn't look big in that or given their unmentionable offspring to believe that their artistic efforts are a work of genius or....no, they are all to a man and woman scrupulously honest in every aspect of their lives, they never fail to live up to their own high standards.  Well hoorah for them....not everyone is so perfect.  And in an imperfect world people make imperfect decisions in the interests of trying to hold things together.  If I were really 'honest' I'd quit doing a job I don't want to and stop trying to keep my next of kin alive...but I'm not honest...in a fit of hypocrisy I continue to do both things out of some misplaced sort of hypocritical duty.  I'm not proud of 'cheating' like this...but some people are weak when it comes to 'doing the right thing' and they make shitty compromises.

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 11:27:27 AM   
SlyStone


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So a snip here and a snip there and it all goes away and you can pretend to be what you wish you were.

You come on here and call us "pathetic fucks" and than it turns out that you are what you hate. The moral majority would love you for sure if you are already not one of them, and aint it always the ones who protest the loudest who have committed the sin.

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 11:35:14 AM   
domiguy


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ORIGINAL: gentlethistle

In general, people here seem to be wildly oposed to it...but I guess I should let them all line up and tell you themselves how dreadful low-down, cheating, hypocritical...etc etc...


See...I knew they would.  They don't like 'cheating'.  And because they don't like cheating and lying, not one of them has ever appropriated office stationery or been party to a 'cash in hand' transaction or told their spouse that their bum doesn't look big in that or given their unmentionable offspring to believe that their artistic efforts are a work of genius or....no, they are all to a man and woman scrupulously honest in every aspect of their lives, they never fail to live up to their own high standards.  Well hoorah for them....not everyone is so perfect.  And in an imperfect world people make imperfect decisions in the interests of trying to hold things together.  If I were really 'honest' I'd quit doing a job I don't want to and stop trying to keep my next of kin alive...but I'm not honest...in a fit of hypocrisy I continue to do both things out of some misplaced sort of hypocritical duty.  I'm not proud of 'cheating' like this...but some people are weak when it comes to 'doing the right thing' and they make shitty compromises.

Laura

To make the comparisons that you have above is ludicrous....sit your boy/girl friend or husband/wife down and tell them it's time we have a serious "heart to heart."  Stare them right in the eye and say you know "last Friday I took home a pen from work." or last weekend you know ..."your clothes actually are fitting a tad to snug...maybe it's time to think about losing some weight."  or "you know when I told little Susie that her picture was great I was lying."  THEN TRY THIS ONE..."LAST NIGHT I FUCKED,FLOGGED,BLEW OR HAD MY PUSSY ATE."
"DON'T KNOW IF IT IS CHEATING, BUT I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO KNOW."
I'm sure there reaction to each one of those scenarios will be the same....because they are all equal...right?

Geez, Louise!

out.

D.G.

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 11:35:58 AM   
marieToo


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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

quote:

ORIGINAL: marieToo
If you get divorced, you break a vow.  You betray a promise to stay with someone for better or worse.

Breaking a vow is breaking a vow.


Lol look at the appologists for liars clutching at straws. Not that it is actualy relevant but despite Me being the wronged party.... she was the one to apply for the divorce (Wanting to re-marry). I'd have forgone marrying again to hold to My promise... but now I have other options.

Barking up the wrong tree there sweetie :-D



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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 11:37:51 AM   
marieToo


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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I forgot you are all just flotsam...no responsiblity for anything that happens to you or within your relationship....You are all just carried helplessly by the tides...."life just happens."...Get some fucking stones!  You allowed this to happen by not tackling the probems initially...like when your wife/husband lost interest in fucking you...you stayed silent or just skipped down the path ignoring all of the signs and hoped things would get better...And now look at you! Justifying your actions under some weak or rediculous guise for fucking others and then say you are doing it "for the good of the kids!"

The kids would be better off in a home with happiness and love than one filled with lies and coexistance...But I expect nothing less from people who are unable to take responsibility for their own actions...and will blame what they do on others or poor choices or other pathetic extenuating circumstance.

quote:

MarieToo
If you get divorced, you break a vow.  You betray a promise to stay with someone for better or worse.

Breaking a vow is breaking a vow. 


"Staying with some when it gets "worse" does not mean fucking other people...Are you all really this short sighted and/or weak?   I wonder how Mr marieToo would feel about this?

If you are going to cheat tell your spouse and hopefully they are poly and you can get your groove on...otherwise get out...loose half of your shit...AND BE HAPPY AND HONEST!!!!! What a bunch of pathetic fucks!  Hard to imagine people coming out to tout such actions and then provide some lame excuse...as justification!!! Like it can be rationalized...All it says is that you are dishonest, lack character, are unable to face the truth, are unable to communicate effectively, and would rather run from your demons than face them....Sounds like you are all quite a catch...Where do I get me some of this?

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.


wow.  Thats alotta baggage ya got there.  I wish you a speedy recovery

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 11:47:28 AM   
domiguy


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wow.  Thats alotta baggage ya got there.  I wish you a speedy recovery


It would be interesting upon boarding our flight who would have to pay the additional surcharge...lol.

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RE: being married... - 1/28/2007 11:48:47 AM   
marieToo


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: marieToo
You will actually find more advocating of redemption, forgiveness, reform and rehabilitation for murderers and rapists on these boards, than you will for 'cheaters'.


Well, in this thread, the OP didn't ask about any of that.  If they had, I certainly would have gone into it, being a former cheater myself.

What they asked what specifically how we should define doing things with another without the spouse's consent.  So that's what I responded to.


No, it didnt start out as that at all.  You're correct. 

But it did go in that direction.

It just surprises me to see the level of rage over this topic that I see time and time again.

I think alot of people have experienced being the cheater, the cheatee, the other man/woman etc.,  I say live, learn, move on and try not to make the same mistakes.   Apply the lesson to your next relationship instead of bringing the baggage to it.





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