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When to go to the police - 3/4/2005 6:03:30 AM

LadyShoshin

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Please be advised that there is a very crazy Dom in XXXX. He is a XXXX
male, age XX, he has XXX hair, a XXXXX and has a XX named XXXXX. He
is very dangerous. He is an alcoholic and a drug user. He has no experience in
the BDSM and uses it to torture women. He has sent one to the hospital and has
beaten my ass so hard that he broke the cane on it. One girl has used the safe
word with him and he kept on beating her. He is very dangerous he is wanted by
police in XXXXXX and is capable of hurting women to the point of serious break
down. I urge all women to please be careful. He is very dangerous and will hurt
women very badly. He beats women and uses BDSM as an excuse. Please BE CAREFUL.
I beg you stay away from XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.

I just received a notice of this being a board topic, of course by the time I got to it, it was gone because of all the identifying information which I removed before posting.

If it is true that the man is wanted by police, any of the victims this poster mentioned could have gone to the authorities and the man would no longer be harming women.

Very little is accomplished by posting a warning with identifying material, if this man IS assaulting women and they know his whereabouts, don't post a warning, go to the police immediately

Otherwise a post with so much identifying material and unsubstantiated accusations could very well be someone who has a grudge trying to smear the name of a Dom.

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RE: When to go to the police - 3/4/2005 7:39:31 AM

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If he is wanted by the police, than anyone can drop the dime (50 cents? Oh, how I date myself) and call them to report his whereabouts.

I've seen things like this go both ways - where the report was of an actual problem, and where it was an attempt to publicly smear the reputation of someone who had not actually done what they were accused of.

I'm occasionally called upon to investigate such things in the local community - and it always sucks, regardless of which it is.

If the accused is guilty only of community-relevant crimes - outing, violating consent, breaking thier word, etc - there's really not an option of calling the cops, and the local community leaders must deal with it as best they can. If they've been doing things that the courts would take seriously, it's always better for it to be taken to the police - the community has neither the resources or the authority to punish those crimes.

In the case of this particular accusation, I'd tend to take it with a large grain of salt. Hospitals tend to be very careful about domestic abuse, and when they see evidence of such, they're quite aware of how to involve the police. People in the community have enough trouble with medical professionals who find consensual marks - nonconsensual damage would likely have been dealt with already. Broken canes? I've seen that - it's no indication of abuse. Torturing women? <snicker> Oh, that's HORRIBLE - I'd never associate with someone who had done THAT.

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RE: When to go to the police - 3/4/2005 2:10:17 PM

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Take that post with a HUGE grain of salt. When I first read it, there was nothing about hospitals or safewords. I felt it was a smear campaign because it didn't state anything of real substance, just accusations.

The edited one you saw Lady S..

quote:

Please be advised that there is a very crazy Dom in XXXX. He is a XXXX
male, age XX, he has XXX hair, a XXXXX and has a XX named XXXXX. He
is very dangerous. He is an alcoholic and a drug user. He has no experience in
the BDSM and uses it to torture women. He has sent one to the hospital and has
beaten my ass so hard that he broke the cane on it. One girl has used the safe
word with him and he kept on beating her. He is very dangerous he is wanted by
police in XXXXXX and is capable of hurting women to the point of serious break
down. I urge all women to please be careful. He is very dangerous and will hurt
women very badly. He beats women and uses BDSM as an excuse. Please BE CAREFUL.
I beg you stay away from XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.

The original posting before they changed it

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Sick Dom WARNING - 3/3/2005 10:45:17 PM *bleeped out* Posts: 1 Status: offline Please be advised that there is a very crazy Dom in *bleeped out* City. He is a white male, age *bleeped out*, he has *bleeped out* hair, a *occupation bleeped out* . He is very dangerous. He is an alcoholic and a drug user. He has no experience in the BDSM and uses it to torture women. He has beaten my ass so hard that he broke the cane on it. He drinks and does drugs while he plays. He is very dangerous he is capable of hurting women to the point of serious break down. I urge all women to please be careful. He is very dangerous and will hurt women very badly. He beats women and uses BDSM as an excuse. Please BE CAREFUL. I beg you stay away from *bleeped out*. < Message edited by *bleeped out* -- 3/3/2005 11:00:44 PM > .

I mentioned in my response to the original that I didn't see the problem of breaking a cane on a sub, since they are notoriously flimsy bits of a toy and that I'd take it more seriously if there had been some mention of true abuse, such as ignoring safewords. After seeing the revision, I feel that this is a cowardly attack. Someone has decided that it is an acceptable way of getting back at someone for whatever slight he gave them. The person mentioned in the original posting says he is getting hate mail. People need to think about the fact that there are always two sides to any story, and remember that old adage.. "hell hath no fury like a submissive scorned"

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RE: When to go to the police - 3/4/2005 3:19:23 PM

LadyBeckett

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Torturing women? <snicker> Oh, that's HORRIBLE - I'd never associate with someone who had done THAT.

Never more than one or two anyway.

I prefer to torture boys.

Nice hair!

< Message edited by LadyBeckett -- 3/4/2005 3:21:12 PM >

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RE: When to go to the police - 3/4/2005 3:34:45 PM

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I've been online a while now. I remember quite well being in a chat room, giving a woman who had irritated me a piece of my mind (after all, I am human.)

She went afk for about twenty minutes, and then I received a private message from her 'sister.' Apparently, the slave in question was being rushed to the hospital because the 'verbal abuse' she had received from me had triggered her heart condition. I was told she died real time hours later. It was actually posted in a message board by another chatter who had a 'real life' relationship, and that the death certificate was going to be seen personally.

Three months later, the dead woman made a few posts, using the old account on accident. Needless to say, I learned an important lesson. The things said online are, at best, heresay. If someone posted aweful things about me like the woman in the example, I would hope that she would be seen for what it probably is - a desperate cry for attention, or a broken heart.

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RE: When to go to the police - 3/4/2005 5:31:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyShoshin

quote:

Please be advised that there is a very crazy Dom in XXXX. He is a XXXX
male, age XX, he has XXX hair, a XXXXX and has a XX named XXXXX. He
is very dangerous. He is an alcoholic and a drug user. He has no experience in
the BDSM and uses it to torture women. He has sent one to the hospital and has
beaten my ass so hard that he broke the cane on it. One girl has used the safe
word with him and he kept on beating her. He is very dangerous he is wanted by
police in XXXXXX and is capable of hurting women to the point of serious break
down. I urge all women to please be careful. He is very dangerous and will hurt
women very badly. He beats women and uses BDSM as an excuse. Please BE CAREFUL.
I beg you stay away from XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.

I just received a notice of this being a board topic, of course by the time I got to it, it was gone because of all the identifying information which I removed before posting.

If it is true that the man is wanted by police, any of the victims this poster mentioned could have gone to the authorities and the man would no longer be harming women.

Very little is accomplished by posting a warning with identifying material, if this man IS assaulting women and they know his whereabouts, don't post a warning, go to the police immediately

Otherwise a post with so much identifying material and unsubstantiated accusations could very well be someone who has a grudge trying to smear the name of a Dom.

Dear Lady Shoshin I'm glad someone got to this before it got all over the place. Besides all those things you mention; there the possibility of a Civil Action for Deflination of Character. The odd thing tho I believe is that this site, not the crybaby who started this crap would be held liable, since there are Moderators who are "Overseers".

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RE: When to go to the police - 3/4/2005 5:38:56 PM

MidnightWriter

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ORIGINAL: LadyBeckett

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Torturing women? <snicker> Oh, that's HORRIBLE - I'd never associate with someone who had done THAT.

Never more than one or two anyway. I prefer to torture boys.

While I have no problems with torturing boys, I'm not piggy, either - we can split 'em along gender lines if you like.

Line forms on the left....

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Nice hair!

Thanks! <preen> I really should get a pic taken that shows the whole length...

Per the OP, I noticed in BeachMystress's comparison that it was someone's post #1 - an anonymous accusation. Almost certain indication of something to be ignored or snickered at.

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