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Congress on Iraq - Tomorrow on Energy - 1/30/2007 8:42:38 AM

Mercnbeth

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The Senate passed a resolution condemning the troop buildup in Iraq.

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Democrats and a lone Republican on the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee vented their frustration with President Bush's troop buildup in Iraq with a symbolic protest vote on Wednesday. Now, the nonbinding resolution is expected to go before the full Senate for a vote last week.
Source: http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070129/OPINION/701290309/1046

As soon as this motion is passed by the full Senate they plan on moving on and tackling the energy problem.

Plans are for a resolution to repeal Newton's laws of physics. A Senate spokesman said that as soon as these archaic laws concerning gravity and inertia are removed people will be able to smoothly glide to work without the need of any oil fed engine.

Iam Fulla Krappe; Senate Meaningless Acts Committee chairman, said; "The impact of our vote, removing Euro-Centric approach to physics, shows that the US is ready to take the lead in alternative solutions to the energy crisis. Obviously the positive feedback we've received by the news organizations and the citizens of the US regarding the Iraq resolution inspired us to move forward with the same approach to other problems facing our nation today. I expect that with quick passage of the new energy laws we'll move on and apply the same solution to immigration, universal health care, poverty, education, and eliminating the cause of obesity - TV commercials."

Sounds pragmatic and logical to me.

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"Second Hand Water" Direct Cause of Childhood... - 1/31/2007 11:43:43 AM

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In an effort to protect us all from ourselves another new law is moving through Congress. Unlike theoretical and unsubstantiated 2nd hand smoke, water is proved to cause death. In fact it is one of the leading causes of death for people under the age of 14.

How can we as a civilized society not do anything to address this problem!

Swimming pools should be banned!

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Drowning in swimming pools is one of the leading causes of death for people under the age of 14. In fact, more people of all ages die in swimming pool related drownings than any other type of water activity. The true tragedy of these deaths is that a great deal of them could have been prevented if only pool owners and operators followed standard safety precautions.
A large number of these deaths occur when small children access pools in residential areas. The U.S Consumer Product Safety Commission estimates that 300 children drown in residential pools each year, with another 2,300 under five years must be hospitalized due to near-drowning. Source: http://www.sddefenselawyers.com/drowningaccidents/

The problem in getting this law passed to ban swimming pools is that it will eliminate a source of lawsuits. It's difficult to conceive that the attorneys and legal industry would permit the loss of a source of income.

Note - the information source is an attorney's web page soliciting business. I have 100's of similar pages from throughout the country to select.

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RE: "Second Hand Water" Direct Cause of Child... - 1/31/2007 11:57:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

In an effort to protect us all from ourselves another new law is moving through Congress. Unlike theoretical and unsubstantiated 2nd hand smoke, water is proved to cause death. In fact it is one of the leading causes of death for people under the age of 14.

How can we as a civilized society not do anything to address this problem!

Swimming pools should be banned!

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Drowning in swimming pools is one of the leading causes of death for people under the age of 14. In fact, more people of all ages die in swimming pool related drownings than any other type of water activity. The true tragedy of these deaths is that a great deal of them could have been prevented if only pool owners and operators followed standard safety precautions.
A large number of these deaths occur when small children access pools in residential areas. The U.S Consumer Product Safety Commission estimates that 300 children drown in residential pools each year, with another 2,300 under five years must be hospitalized due to near-drowning. Source: http://www.sddefenselawyers.com/drowningaccidents/

The problem in getting this law passed to ban swimming pools is that it will eliminate a source of lawsuits. It's difficult to conceive that the attorneys and legal industry would permit the loss of a source of income.

Note - the information source is an attorney's web page soliciting business. I have 100's of similar pages from throughout the country to select.

Q. What's worse than a whiner?

A. That's a tough one but I think I'm gonna hafta go with "a stoned whiner.."

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RE: "Second Hand Water" Direct Cause of Child... - 1/31/2007 12:07:11 PM

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Fear is a strong emotion isn't it Noah? Fear of consistency. Fear to recognize failure.

Better to rationalize that consistency, integrity, and even common sense should be ignored.

Some are more suited in pontificating and filibustering. When that fails use insult and name calling. Pity you don't have a better argument; not that one could be expected from myopic vision.

Fear of having things pointed out that cause you to think may be something you need to address.

These issues make sense to you? Maybe your reality is drug induced.

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RE: "Second Hand Water" Direct Cause of Child... - 1/31/2007 12:49:17 PM

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Fear is a strong emotion isn't it Noah? Fear of consistency. Fear to recognize failure.

Oh come on. Re-read your posts and then come tell us who is quaking in his and/or her (semi anonymous) shoes.

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Better to rationalize that consistency, integrity, and even common sense should be ignored.

Like the integrity implicit in your completely spurious suggestion that someone is trying to ban swimming pools, I suppose. And your disingenuous suggestion that the continuous pursuit of the present failed policy in Iraq is as inevitable as Newton's Laws.

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Some are more suited in pontificating and filibustering. When that fails use insult and name calling. Pity you don't have a better argument; not that one could be expected from myopic vision.

As though you weren't insulting anyone in your pair of Chicken Little posts? Or in this one? But it's okay for you 'cause your cause is just, I suppose.

Anyway I'm not blind, you know. Just Differently Envisioned. I think that in a certain way we actually have that in common.

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Fear of having things pointed out that cause you to think may be something you need to address.

Yo, sparky. I saw something which I thought could use addressing and I addresed it. Need help with the math?

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These issues make sense to you? Maybe your reality is drug induced.

Oh simmer down.

Yeah. Open political discourse makes sense to me. Recommending precautions--not prohibitions--where children encounter risk to life and limb makes sense to me too. Holding people to account who through their negligence harm children? I'm afraid that also makes sense to me. Guilty on all counts.

You want tort reform? Run for office. Change the laws.

Or. hey, keep doing what you're doing. Maybe that's the best way to make the world a better place. Your call.

I enjoy most of your posts, you know. But then this kind of stuff crops up.

You talk about fear but this weird little subset of your posts, the ones that fit into the pattern shown above, well they are just part and parcel of the whole Politics of Fear approach which we have finally begun voting out.

Rock on with it if you really think posting stuff like that to a bondage website is going to overturn the status quo. Maybe getting your pants all up in your crack the first time someone takes a potshot at your rants will help your cause.

Time will tell, I guess.

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RE: "Second Hand Water" Direct Cause of Child... - 1/31/2007 1:24:14 PM

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Pointing out hypocrisy is a hobby of mine; here or any of the other media or places I post. People or institutions guilty of it should be ridiculed and mocked. My manner of doing so, is to pose a comparison that is ridiculous in order to make a point. I apologize that this method was lost on you.

If the swimming pool ban wasn't apparently made up it only serves to prove the point that based upon recent attempts to regulate freedom, people wouldn't be surprised.

I don't understand how you associate this with drug use or boot quaking. Maybe you can enlighten me. And how is it "insulting"? Is a requirement of consistency insulting? Is the use of logic to point out illogical conclusions insulting? To whom? Is there a disjoint between the fact of pool associated death to their regulation so far fetched?

I won't use the unprovable postulation of second hand smoke as a sole cause of death even though no death certificate ever identified second hand smoke as a cause of death. I point instead to the helmet requirement for motorcycle riding. Less than 500 per year died and less than 1000 were injured in motorcycle accidents due to the lack of helmet wear. Compare it to the number of deaths by drowning. Is is so much of an incongruity?

Sanctimonious posers who replace good results with good intentions as a goal need to be held up to ridicule. I point out the total absurdity of wasting time on a none binding resolution by comparing it to a resolution regarding the repeal of gravity. Both have the same result - NOTHING.

Is that what you hoped for under the new Congress? Politically I supported, worked, and voted, for every candidate in my jurisdiction who wasn't an incumbent. I'll continue to do so. I will also continue to point out why more people should do the same. This forum is a good as the others I post to. You felt the need to respond. Why do so in a immaterial "bondage website"?

I am so very happy that we are "differently envisioned"; I have no requirement the situation changed. You introduced and needed to include a drug reference. For lack of any better point? I should settle down? Well, first off, I'm never "up" regarding any on-line attack. My reality is much too much fun and fulfilling to waste any emotion toward someone who needs to use name calling or a drug reference to make an argument. However, I never "settle".

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Congressional Resolution - 2/14/2007 11:55:22 AM

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Does anyone get any sense of satisfaction regarding the activities of your Representative on this resolution? Make no mistake, these people have the ability to end the war tomorrow should they choose by ending funding as of a specific day/time. Not one person in Congress has the integrity to speak to the issue of how much a waste of time this is. Every one of this hypocritical, spineless, disingenuous, fools should be voted out.

But no - because so many believe the rhetoric or are blinded by political labels or party identification form will hold and 75% will be right back in their same seat in 2008.

Even in the context of this NON-BINDING resolution, copied below in its entirety, the final negotiated wording has less impact than telling a toddler "no". Yet four days will be spent, 5 minutes for each representative, "debating" a resolution that has no impact!

Are you fooled by this meaningless action? Is the answer, "this is the 1st step" acceptable to you? What is the next step? These people have the last step in their hands. If they had convictions end the appropriations; simple, quick, clear. But no, as long as they can fool enough of you, as long as talk is all you expect; what you read below will define "action".

Do you see it as anything other than a waste, having the same impact as the ridiculous other items I used to in the OP?

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CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

Disapproving of the decision of the President announced on January 10, 2007, to deploy more than 20,000 additional United States combat troops to Iraq.

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That—

(1) Congress and the American people will continue to support and protect the members of the United States Armed Forces who are serving or who have served bravely and honorably in Iraq; and

(2) Congress disapproves of the decision of President George W. Bush announced on January 10, 2007, to deploy more than 20,000 additional United States combat troops to Iraq.

Source: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/2007_iraq_resolution.pdf

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