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julietsierra -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (1/31/2007 2:55:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xGoddessx

I know some slaves/subs that will have sex with women so their Master can watch.  I pretty much try to stay away from them though.  I prefer one that wants to be with women, because its how they are..not because they want an Oscar for best actress.
 
Drea


I'm one of those who will - and does - have sex with women so that my Master can watch. I don't consider myself bi. However, I have a wonderful time when we're together, so I don't think I'm going to win an Oscar or anything for it being something I'm just faking.

On the other hand, if left to my own devices, choices and preferences, I find I would not look at women as sexual or emotional or even play partner. I consider her my friend - my very good friend - but not my partner. I consider what WE, the both of us are doing is pleasing my Master. I know she is bi and enjoys interaction with a woman. I am not bi, but I still enjoy my interactions with her.

But I do know that even in the heat of passion when "please don't stop" is moving past my lips - my eyes are always on him.

So... not forced, but still not chosen - what does that make me?

juliet



Mercnbeth -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (1/31/2007 4:31:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

quote:

ORIGINAL: xGoddessx

I know some slaves/subs that will have sex with women so their Master can watch.  I pretty much try to stay away from them though.  I prefer one that wants to be with women, because its how they are..not because they want an Oscar for best actress.
 
Drea


So... not forced, but still not chosen - what does that make me?

juliet


subservient?  submitting to the will of your Master for His pleasure?



solvr70 -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (1/31/2007 7:37:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DragonandPhoenix

Personally, I find it hot.  However, what would be hot for me is not forcing a man who REALLY TRULY does not want to go there, who is deeply morally opposed to it or who wants to vomit at the very thought...  Bur rather, a man who has very, very deeply repressed homosexual tendencies that he may not even know about or want to admit to himself.  There is a difference, and that difference is appearant in the behaviour of a man when the idea is mentioned during intimacy and play.  If it's not a hard limit (though it may be inititially very frightening to him), I fully intend to have him swallowing semen and taking it up the ass in the future.  Guy on guy action REALLY does it for me.  Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I suspect not...


You've described it much better then i have been able to. that is what i was thinking m'Lady. i have found it a bit challenging to find Woman with overlaping interests, and am thinking there might not be that many. But am somewhat new to the quest.

taking cock both orally and up the ass, as You described so well, would be VERY scary to do, and humiliationg (but that could be some of the draw), one then the other or both at the same time *slight blush*



talltxsub -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (1/31/2007 12:00:47 PM)

Maybe a better word is COMPELLED.  It would not be something I would seek, but if it was pleasing to my Domme, i would seek to please her.



BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (1/31/2007 12:52:44 PM)

My Master has made it clear that this is something He wants from me.  I'm not bisexual or bicurious.  I have zero interest in women sexually.  But if or when it happens, call it what you will, but it won't be anything other than me obeying my Master, or as Merc put it, submitting to His will for His pleasure.



Spankinatrix -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (1/31/2007 6:24:30 PM)

I don't ever threaten my male subs with that.  I couldn't because I only have relationships with those that see it as a treat! ;)  I suppose they could be lieing or faking, but I believe women are more likely to do that than men, when it comes to bi play.   Ah well, they're good enough to fool me... and it's quite clear they're getting some pleasure from their acting tasks!
N



TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (1/31/2007 8:04:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

Forced bi does nothing for me.  After years of being forced straight in my vanilla marraige, Id never force a sexuality on someone else.

DV
Amen!...if absolute force is needed then it is wrong, wether that force is through anger,guilt,threats,cajoling..whatever..it is simply wrong..pretend force?..then all well and good ..So thus is it truly forced or not?..IMO..not..:0)...Tempting



Wulfchyld -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (1/31/2007 8:11:51 PM)

For the record, what does that “S” stand for in S&m again?



twicehappy -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 4:45:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

For the record, what does that “S” stand for in S&m again?


Suck Slower Silly Salacious Slave Slut?



agirl -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 5:12:39 AM)

I had a chat to my M about this.

His take on it is that force is fine until it becomes abuse, or as he put it, *abuse of power*. It's one thing to force a person to do something that they're reluctant or scared to do, or even something they actively don't want to do when it doesn't leave them feeling abused in the worst sense..... but another to force them to do something that leaves them damaged, sad and with ruined trust in the wake.

agirl







LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 7:18:23 AM)

Agirl, or, as I put it, the difference between doing something that will serve you and doing something that will make you less of who you are.



Adrenochrome -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 10:26:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I was being facetious and hyperbolistic to make a point.  The fact is, a heck of lot of subs DO perform and pretend to give their doms a show with another woman when they would really prefer not. 



For what it's worth, I had no idea you weren't being serious. And though I've seen plenty of posts from you, I had no idea what your personal situation, history, and sexual identity was. So, I'd suggest being easy with the one-line sarcasm bit. It doesn't translate well through this medium.

On topic, my slave is bisexual. She enjoys the though of playing with another girl, both for self-expression and to satisfy me. However, if she were not bisexual, she would still be expected to occasionally play with another girl for my pleasure.



Adrenochrome -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 10:29:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub
Amen!...if absolute force is needed then it is wrong, wether that force is through anger,guilt,threats,cajoling..whatever..it is simply wrong..pretend force?..then all well and good ..So thus is it truly forced or not?..IMO..not..:0)...Tempting


You may wish to refrain from speaking in absolutes, since not everyone shares your opinion. Absolute force is not always wrong, to my way of thinking.



michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 10:30:57 AM)

i absolutely will not do it

[:D]



mixielicous -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 10:33:18 AM)

i have a fantasy of beating another F for His viewing pleasure, but thats about as far as it goes [well no - we fuck in front of her HAHAHA]

but these are things i dont spend much time pondering, i know Mine wont share me - with male or female.

that is, for now. i see Him providing me my whipping post some years down the road [;)]



SirStephan55 -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 10:35:42 AM)

It makes you very similar to my slave :)



agirl -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 12:19:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Agirl, or, as I put it, the difference between doing something that will serve you and doing something that will make you less of who you are.


Yes.
There are quite a few things that I most certainly would never have chosen to do, nor would I choose them to happen again, though I'm sure they will.... they still aren't damaging to my sense of self or my self worth. I don't *feel* abused*. He COULD abuse me...it would be quite easy for him to do now. But what exists between us now, would wither rather rapidly.

agirl





TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 6:43:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: agirl

I had a chat to my M about this.

His take on it is that force is fine until it becomes abuse, or as he put it, *abuse of power*. It's one thing to force a person to do something that they're reluctant or scared to do, or even something they actively don't want to do when it doesn't leave them feeling abused in the worst sense..... but another to force them to do something that leaves them damaged, sad and with ruined trust in the wake.

agirl





I can respect such a viewpoint and agree with your M...possibly I worded it a bit strongly.I think I tend to look at the worse case scenerios at times..:0)...thank you..Tempting



TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/1/2007 6:45:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Adrenochrome

quote:

ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub
Amen!...if absolute force is needed then it is wrong, wether that force is through anger,guilt,threats,cajoling..whatever..it is simply wrong..pretend force?..then all well and good ..So thus is it truly forced or not?..IMO..not..:0)...Tempting


You may wish to refrain from speaking in absolutes, since not everyone shares your opinion. Absolute force is not always wrong, to my way of thinking.

Then respectfully we may have to agree to disagree on this...[:)]..Tempting



solvr70 -> RE: Forced-bi....exciting for A/all? (2/2/2007 7:54:46 AM)

if it excited the Woman and She was insistant about it, 'tis something that dreams are made or! *ws*



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