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My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/30/2007 1:31:46 PM   
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 I know I normally try not to post my drama on teh internetz but here goes. I apologize for the emo shit, but I guess we all have our days.

So I've heard on a number of occassions about the qualities a Dominant should have, or what a slave/ submissive looks for in a Dominant. Most notably: Confidence, Self-Control, Strong both physically and mentally and Decisive.

So here is my problem. Having used the internet as an escape from my own weaknesses, and hiding from my problems within my own delusions of grandeur (imagining myself as a strong-willed, physically and mentally strong, alltogether guy who is a bit sadistic to said slave), it turns out I tend live my life the exact opposite.

I have no faith in myself. I lack confidence. I'm overall indecisive, especially about big decisions, maybe just a bit too cautious? I constantly question myself and my actions, and often don't view myself as good enough. I have virtually no control of my emotions, a problem I have had since I was a child. I focus on my faults, not my qualities.

When it comes to my sadism, I tend to ignore it for the most part, because my slave is not near as masochistic as I am, although I have her consent, something that gets to me every now and then, because I know my sadism craves an outlet that art and prose can't help.

So my question: Has anyone here had to deal with these kinds of problems? If so, how did you cope and could you offer any advise?

I want to change for the better and start being the person I want to be, but every time I make progress it feels like I'm going one step forwards and two steps back.

Hell, I just recently stopped bending over backwards to make sure everyone is happy at the expense of my own wants and needs, when I realized my life is more important than my mother's. But that is another story for another day.

My slave (z has more life experience and has dealt with a lot of the same problems I have) offers me advise and I often feel like I have to turn to her for help, but I need some advise from the other end of the spectrum too.






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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/30/2007 1:35:26 PM   
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Yanno, when you first learned to ride a bike---seems the same way....

Just the other night I was talking to my training partner in the martial art I am studying----

Don't seem like I know much or make progress until I started looking at some books, went thru alot of them, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Brazilian---others,
and said, you know, I know every one of those.............


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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/30/2007 1:44:30 PM   
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Here's the secret- every dom deals with those emotions at some point.

The point is that you're aware of the issues and making progress on them.  That's more than a heck of a lot of doms will ever be capable of.

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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/30/2007 1:59:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Slipstreme

So here is my problem. Having used the internet as an escape from my own weaknesses, and hiding from my problems within my own delusions of grandeur (imagining myself as a strong-willed, physically and mentally strong, alltogether guy who is a bit sadistic to said slave), it turns out I tend live my life the exact opposite.

Welcome to the world of human, hon.

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I have no faith in myself. I lack confidence. I'm overall indecisive, especially about big decisions, maybe just a bit too cautious? I constantly question myself and my actions, and often don't view myself as good enough. I have virtually no control of my emotions, a problem I have had since I was a child. I focus on my faults, not my qualities.

When it comes to my sadism, I tend to ignore it for the most part, because my slave is not near as masochistic as I am, although I have her consent, something that gets to me every now and then, because I know my sadism craves an outlet that art and prose can't help.

So my question: Has anyone here had to deal with these kinds of problems?

Yes. Still struggle with some, too.

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If so, how did you cope and could you offer any advise?

Part of what help me was therapy...not that it help me solve anything, but that it showed me that any mistake I make isn't going to make the floor open up a swallow me, i.e. my fear of annihilation wasn't quite a real as I felt it to be. It gave me new coping skills.

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I want to change for the better and start being the person I want to be, but every time I make progress it feels like I'm going one step forwards and two steps back.

Life is a dance. This is called the cha cah...ok, so that's really 2 slow steps then 3 fast steps, but the point is that making mistakes is ok. Part of what life is about is giving yourself permission to not be perfect. Somewhere, you’ve been taught that you must be perfect. That’s bullshit.

What I did: I started reading a lot of self help books, as cliché as that is. I really started to look inward. What therapy taught me was to ask, "Why?" Why do I feel this way? Why do I react this way? Why am I afraid of that? Why don't I love myself? I really started looking for answers, inside, because that's where they really come from.

Some of the books that have really helped me were things like "What to say when you talk to yourself" and "Sacred Contracts". These books made me look at how I work. Once I began to understand myself, I began to understand others, too. Once I began to have compassion for myself, I began to have compassion of others too.

One thing I've learned, and yes, this will sounds all hippy-flower children and stuff, but, truth comes from all places: We are all beautiful and perfect inside. We simply don't, and often can't, act as if we are. Because this is true, we steps and stumble through this journey called life and the experiences we have. Wisdom is knowledge that's gone to the heart...the path it follows to get there is often painful, but always enlightening. This is what our journey is about.

So, first, ask yourself why you don't like yourself and why are you convinced you aren’t worthy of being liked. I'm betting that, somewhere in there, like me, you've taken something that someone said to heart...and shouldn't have.

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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/30/2007 2:00:57 PM   
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I've always had a problem with my emotions, and it has always been something I have hated about myself, mainly because, when I was a kid, my vulnerability made me a target, no one ever helped me deal with my emotions, and I learned to resent it. That resent has become too deeply seated to push aside. At least so it seems. 

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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/30/2007 2:11:45 PM   
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I don't usually post here but this caught my eye. I've dealt with most of the things mentioned, I don't want to mention them but I was emotionally scarred and stuck, and one day I realized I was a sexual sadist. I have been through very submissive experiences against my will and never thought I'd ever do the things I do today (or even think the things I think, hehehe).

I've literally become a different person over time, and I think you can do the same. And yes, I still struggle at times like everybody else. It took me a long time to realise that even dominants can't be perfect. I was being too idealistic and cared too much about... well... crap ;)

Just keep going and good luck!
Alexandra

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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/30/2007 3:49:22 PM   
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You are a kid, fucking relax!  I do not mean that in a negative way in any shape or form.  At 20 if you are even aware other people have feelings, that ain't half bad.   Heap on that trying to deal with your identity issues and the fact you aren't strung out on drugs or half in the bag is impressive.

So relax, you aren't perfect, it has taken me more than the time you have been alived to reach the level of near perfection I have attained and trust me I ain't all that much nearer perfection than you are.

You have a lot to sort out, but here is some seemingly simple but quite difficult advice.  Develop a little voice in your head (no not the one that tells  you to chop people up)  that notices when you are having a strong reaction to something.  The minute you notice your reaction is all out of proportion, have it root around for the cause.  This is far harder and more difficult than it sounds but it will help you find the causes and deal with them.  As for anger, for ME (and I had the help of an amazing therapist) what worked was to stop taking things as an attack, everything was about me.  Girlfriend feels insecure, attack her for not trusting me.  Girlfriend not meeting needs I had forgotten to mention?  Attack her for being an ungrateful bitch, you get the idea.

I am sending you a long blurb I once posted here but I don't want to hijack the thread but look for it.

Hang in there, if LA gives you a thumbs up, that is pretty high praise!

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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/30/2007 9:18:44 PM   
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The sheer fact alone that you made this post and openly admitted these things shows to me that you are going to be 100% OK.

Everything you described sounds like me at a point not too long ago in my life and to a degree, still is. I still struggle with these issues at times and probably will at many more times over the years to come.

The hardest part for me was opening my own eyes and taking a good look at myself and my own life. I was lucky to have a very wise and influental figure to help me with that and to help point me in the right direction. Ego and pride can be very blinding things and realizing that you dont really like a lot of things about yourself isnt easy. Some people go there entire lives and never grow.

So congratulations! You've taken the big step, accepted that there is bad things about yourself you need to change, and realized that you are a young and very imperfect human being! Sadly, the imperfect part probably wont ever change.

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So here is my problem. Having used the internet as an escape from my own weaknesses, and hiding from my problems within my own delusions of grandeur (imagining myself as a strong-willed, physically and mentally strong, alltogether guy who is a bit sadistic to said slave), it turns out I tend live my life the exact opposite.



I went threw that same thing before I had the appifiny you are having now.  I was undeniably a brat, a coward, and just an all around unlikeable person. I had zero control over my emotions as well. However, it wasnt the Internet but drugs. Weed mostly. Lots of weed. And lots of booze. Mix in some hard drugs as well for some variety. Whether the Internet or drugs, it was still the same problem. I was hiding from myself and my own problems rather than face them. Just come home, smoke a joint, have a few drinks, and then nothing really mattered. My entire world crumbled slowly around me, but I was safe in my own self indulgent reality I had created.

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I have no faith in myself. I lack confidence. I'm overall indecisive, especially about big decisions, maybe just a bit too cautious? I constantly question myself and my actions, and often don't view myself as good enough.



Yes, I was plagued with that same thing. 

Those three issues arent really seperate issues, but just one issue thats linked. Your lack of belief in yourself. Without confidence, without faith, you cant be decisive and you cant dominate. If you beleive your inferior, then you are inferior, not because you actually ARE inferior, but because you beleive you are. Its all in your head.

How did I get past it?

By having the moment that you are having right now. I decided I wanted to change myself and threw that, I developed a little bit of faith that I could change myself. Then I took steps to do it, little by little.

First the weed and drugs. All gone. It sucked at first. I had to find new ways to deal with the world. I just generally more of a fucked up ass then I was before. I learned how to meditate and began to use that as a substute. I grit my teeth and chose to face all my problems rather than hide from them. When I started to do that, I didnt need this artifical reality to cope with anymore. Knocking the booze out of my life after that and achieving soberity wasnt too hard after that. It really wasnt my thing. More the weed.

Step by little step I began to try and improve and do diffrent things. I made a budget and struggled to manage my money. I cleaned up my house and all the areas that had never cleaned. I cut my hair and cleaned myself up. I began to make a serious effort to be at work on time and to pay my bills on time. I made a list of goals, things that I wanted out of my life and said "Ok, this is where I want to go and not changing it like I have done a million other times regarding college and school!"

With each little step, I gained a little more confidence as I realized I could actually do this, that I was actually capable of becomming the person in my own fantasies. I found out that I could surprise myself and do things I had said "I cant do" before. Like quit smoking. Its going on 4 weeks now without a cigarette.

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I have virtually no control of my emotions, a problem I have had since I was a child.



I had this problem too and still have it, but just in a less severe degree. Short of becomming a monk, I think everyone will have this problem from time the time, but rather as we grow and mature, we just have the problem less and less and with less and less severity. I learned to take a deep breathe and step away. To examine myself and why I was fealing these emotions and to understand and deal with the reason behind them. Not to fight them, but rather to accept that it was ok to feal the way I was and then to try and process it into something positive. Once again, meditation helps a lot. I also recommend the book "Who Is Pushing Your Buttons?" By John Townsend. Dont ignore the lessons in it just because its Christian inspired.

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If so, how did you cope and could you offer any advise?



Stop trying to "cope". Coping is what I did with weed and alchocol. Dont cope with your problems. Accept them, face them, and then fix them. Coping is an instant "feal good". Trying to live happily however sometimes requires fealing like shit for a bit. I can say I am happy now, but dont always feal good. Before, I felt good all the time but wasnt happy.

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I want to change for the better and start being the person I want to be, but every time I make progress it feels like I'm going one step forwards and two steps back.



Life is like that sometimes. But dont worry....if a fucked up, doped out, half drunk, bratty, childish loser like me can improve his own life some, you can do it too. Like I said, you have already done the hardest part.

I really hope this post didnt come off sounding like a self glorification, "Oh look at me and all my accomplishments" type thing. All I am trying to say is I've been there, been in a really bad spot, and things managed to get a lot better. 

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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/31/2007 9:23:29 AM   
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MadRabbit, Well done.  Well said.

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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/31/2007 11:18:44 AM   
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I wish I could add something but all I can do is agree with what the others have already said, especially MasterFire and Michael.

Your young and yet in some ways alot further along than many of us were at that age. 

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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/31/2007 12:21:53 PM   
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What makes for a brave Man?..... does He not feel fear? Damn right He does or else there would be nothing for Him to be brave over. A Brave Man simply doesn't let the fear stop Him doing what He knows is the right thing to do.

Same with being a Dom/Master.... Some even in real life seem to think I never have a dip in My confidence, never feel nerves or insecurity.... Excuse Me but cut Me and I bleed... I am still human and of course I get days like that. I simply don't LET it stop Me, thats where the self control kicks in, the self discipline to carry on regardless. Work out what you would do if you wheren't dithering about it, then get off Your arse and go DO it!

Thats My advice for what its worth.


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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 1/31/2007 1:24:35 PM   
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Thank you all for your help. I see now though that most of the responses have some of the same advice I have gotten from my slave, so one's alingment has little to do with character flaws. This much I sort of expected.

I know I am my worst critic and I have suffered a life of abandonment and abuse by my peers, which I know is where a lot of the insecurity and the high expectations of myself came from.

As far as my emotions there might be an added problem. I am questioning my gender and have always hated being stuck in a female body.

I agree with Raven, and have been slowly going down the path of just doing it. Although it has been harder than it would seem.

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Develop a little voice in your head (no not the one that tells  you to chop people up)  that notices when you are having a strong reaction to something.


I do.It has always been there, but unfortunately tends to be the voice that criticises me when I am too emotional. It has been the voice logic and reason, but I think my resentment had leaked into it at one point, but can't remember when. Unfortunately though, when I do realise I am having a problem, I don't know how to turn it into a positive situation. I have long since realised as much as I try to fight it, when I am going to cry, I cry, irregardless of where I am, or what I am doing.

I would look into therapy if I had the money, and right now I would rather get my slave back on hormones when we can. (She is pre-OP MTF, and I have noticed how she seems to slowly be sliding into depression due to a lack of either testocerone which she doesn't want or produce much anymore, or oestrogen in her body) Next semester I will be able to get free treatment with the school, so long as I am taking classes.

I will look into the books.

Feel free to add to this thread if you wish. I'll still check it so long as it is here. Thank you again.


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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 2/1/2007 3:43:42 PM   
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I'd like to add some advice that works for me nexst  to the very insightful responses you've gotten so far. 

Pick one thing and start making it different right now.  Anything.  Make any small step towards one goal...something you can do in the next 5 minutes.  You'd be surprised how good it can feel to get moving along the right track.  The smaller the step, the better.  But just get unstuck and move your body, your thinking, your attitude, and you're life will be different.  Go from that new place to another one, and another.  Sure you'll go backward at times;  we all do, but then redirect and push on.

I went through a rebirth similar to MadRabbit's some time ago, and I never want to go back.  What I have now, I've worked for - so I value it more and take better care of myself and my life. Getting out of a mess of bad habits is REALLY hard to do, but changing one thing just a little bit isn't.  Stick with what works and just don't stop and ask yourself what you feel about it.  Emotions aren't the end-all and be-all of life; just one little part of them.  You'll get there if you work for it, you won't if you don't.  Cheer yourself on as a matter of decision, not feeling.

The longer you focus on something, the more familiar you become with it, so choose very wisely what you let play in your head.  You can choose to focus on the things that work for you.  Good Luck.

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RE: My Dominance, only a fantasy? Need advice. - 2/2/2007 5:29:58 PM   
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Let's attack this head on. The first thing to admit to is that you have been using the computor as a crutch. Whether that is a fantasy persona or game playing it's the way you use it and that must change. I'd recomend limiting your time online and parceling out that time for being on this site say 1 hour; game playing 1 hour: letter writing 30 min. etc. and stick with it. Each year people make resolutions to change what they don't like. They don't succeed because they choose too many things and lose focus. Choose two things and daily remind yourself what you want to do. More often if you can. Next stop seeking advice from your slave. You will lose the clarity of each persons role{who they are}. You know who and what you want to be so you must be willing to "suffer" the pain and consequences of doing what's right for you. You have a lot to tackle so don't let to much get on your "plate" at one time. Choose two more resolutions after 6 months. It takes 6 months to make or change a habit. If you weren't successful with one of the first resolutions then take that up again until you succeed. When it comes to your gender and hating your body I have some thoughts. Don't take on the gender question right now. You are young and changing your self talk and self image may have a large impact on your decisions. In fact changing your body might be one of the 2 things to start with because the progress is easily measurable. Start eating healthy and excercize. Start slow and build up your strength and conditioning. That will also make you a better Top with more arm strength and endurance.
One last thing which has to do with problem solving. It's called 3 solutions. Whenever you encounter a problem think of 3 means of solving it, no matter how silly because there may be a nugget of an idea that will solve the problem. For example you brought up counseling. Problem-how to get it? Most counties or cities offer counseling with the cost based on a sliding scale with your income. Or 2- do you have medical insurance and can get it there or can you get insurance and get it Or 3 go in the yellow pages and look for clinic that offers low cost counseling or university teaching schools with counseling available. You get the idea. write them down and now it looks doable instead of impossible.
Good luck
please excuse any mispellings as spell check isn't working.

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