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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 9:36:54 AM

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I am sure I am the weird one out but I dont like to recycle toys. Allmost everything I use for Bondage is home crafted with re-enforced wood and hand carved specifically for that sub and is only used on one sub. Obviously I dont go through that many of them...LOL but when the sub goes so does the gear. The reason for this is because I view a good scene as me sending a sub on a journey that I am the conductor of so to speak. I think each toy wether it be a spreader bar or suspention bar or cuffs has that subs essence attached to it and becomes a personal associacion for the sub. As an example I am currently constructing a St. Andrews Cross. This cross is being specifically build to the exact measurement of my specific sub and is designed to fit her body perfectly. When compleated it will have a relief carving of basically he life story done in small carved blocks as an essention through life. With all this you can pretty much bet that she ownes it and allways will because it represents her presonal journal and once it is assembled and the dungeon is set up for the weekend you can bet that as she sees it set up in the corner that it will have a big effect on her as she anticipates its use.

The time it takes to build such stuff is only a couple of months and then again in seeing the construction causes anticipation and it allso slows things down a lot so that the scenes slowly and naturally progresses. The cost is really dirt cheap, it has a huge effect as far as the mental attachment to the devices / dungeon. They can never guess as to how many woman I have been with and it keeps me from picking someone up for a weekend thrill. All in all it works out pretty good for me.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 9:39:44 AM

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Wow! You gals are soooo picky! When I invite new sub over I just "whack" the toy hard against the wall and usually most of the hair and "crud' falls right off.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 9:40:56 AM

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You can also do that with the slave, then she loses the concern of the other.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 10:08:04 AM

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Thanks, bearincuffs,

This is some info I found. http://www.vaccineinformation.org/hepa/qandavax.asp

I knew (and have had) the HepB vaccine. I'll ask the Dr about the HepA.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 10:45:01 AM

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Wow! You gals are soooo picky! When I invite new sub over I just "whack" the toy hard against the wall and usually most of the hair and "crud' falls right off.

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.

LMAO!

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 11:05:51 AM

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You can also do that with the slave, then she loses the concern of the other.

Ron

But Ron, he/she might like that.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 1:59:20 PM

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quote:

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You can also do that with the slave, then she loses the concern of the other.

Ron

But Ron, he/she might like that.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 2:34:43 PM

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I like when a bottom has their own toys because it shows they are prepared, take responsibility for their own pleasure, have been around awhile and I have a ready made set of "things I know they can enjoy and like."

This makes perfect sense.

quote:

I find it's often the bottoms who are reluctant to get their own set because they CAN be expensive and time consuming to build up.

That they can. Thanks for your thoughts.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 2:44:00 PM

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HPV (not related to HIV) is the virus that causes warts of all kinds ... If these warts are on the cervic, they can cause cervical cancer; a vaccine has been developed for this strain.

It is a lot more complicated than it was 30 years ago when herpes struck fear in the heart of everyone.

I do plan to get the HPV innoculation and maybe Hep. Thanks MFM.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 2:46:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER
The time it takes to build such stuff is only a couple of months and then again in seeing the construction causes anticipation and it allso slows things down a lot so that the scenes slowly and naturally progresses.

I admire your patience generousity. Thanks for your thoughts.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 3:42:02 PM

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I have a question on how people feel about their toys. The last dom I played with was reluctant to tinker with my stuff (leather implements). My collection has expanded and now includes bondage paraphernalia. I was talking to new Dom last night and it went something like this:

Him: So, what do you like?

Me: I like leather cuffs.

Him: I have leather cuffs, and a blindford and gags.

That's cool and all. But I want to play with my stuff someday. I don't know why. Maybe because they don't have another submissive's cooties on them?

I gather that there is a feeling of power in possession, at least in male Doms (for example, always taking his car) that extends to toys. Am I right in this thought? I'm not talking about insertables and the like. Even if my thinking is correct, surely there is some appeal to be found in a submissive that comes fully equipped?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

When I ask someone what they like and they respond as you did I respond I have those.
Perhaps responding "you have a pair of leather cuffs you like to use"
His response may have been different.

My toys that are Mine are for Myself and bishop.
I encourage submissives to buy their own gags,butt plugs etc that way no germs are passed.
submissives with their own cuffs etc,means less time I spend cleaning My gear.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 3:43:02 PM

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i must be the odd one out........

quote:

I like when a bottom has their own toys because it shows they are prepared, take responsibility for their own pleasure, have been around awhile and I have a ready made set of "things I know they can enjoy and like."

i really dont find any of it pleasurable...... taking responsiblity for my own pleasure would be more along the lines of "hey would you grab me by the hair, throw me up against the wall and screw the lights out of me?"

Therefore! i own pretty much absolutetly no toys (except a vibrator or 3 or 5) So, Master pretty much owns them all. If he wants to use something on me - its pretty much up to him to have it. Although i did by a whippish thing once, but that was at his discretion (which he owns.. like i want it!) If i'm to be tortured, he's gonna foot the bill.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 3:53:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I find it's often the bottoms who are reluctant to get their own set because they CAN be expensive and time consuming to build up, there is an expectation that the top should provide and the bottom should simply be passive and show up, and novice bottoms want to play even though they haven't collected any toys (traditional ones at least).

I agree with LA. When I dommed I almost never met subs who had their own collection of toys. They always assumed I had my own (which I did) and they seemed fine with that. This is puzzling to me, because I am a big big freak about germs and so on ... and I could never understand how they could not care about things like that. At times I assumed that perhaps it was a male thing ... because my husband often doesn't seem as concerned about cleanliness as I do.

I know that it is expensive and time consuming to collect toys, but I think it's weel worth it, because you can then collect things that appeal to you and bring you happiness when using them in a session. I know not all my toys appeal to others, but they do to me. And I don't share well with others.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 4:19:04 PM

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I always prefer to use her toys, especially when she has something fun. I do not see it as a power thing at all. Of course I consider "play" to be just that. When we think back to being younger, it was always more fun to play with new of different toys that we didn't have.

Now...I have my own stuff that I love too (just like when I was a kid) but I really don't care whos kit we use as long as we are having fun using it.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 6:18:00 PM

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Some dominants get rid of all their toys with each new submissive. My Daddy does this. If I remember correctly he gave them the toys. They were bought for them. Perhaps the new dominants think that these toys you have are a remnant of past relationship(s)?

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 6:27:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: MaryT
surely there is some appeal to be found in a submissive that comes fully equipped?

Hell yeah, there is!

Last year I played with a sub who owned a few things of his own for the first time. When I told him I was going to put him up on the St. Andrew's cross and started reaching into my own bag for my leather wrist restraints, he slapped his own on and presented his hands to me so fast I didn't know what had hit me. This was the first time I'd played with someone who brought his own things along with him instead of relying on whatever dom he might find that night to have them for his use. Personally, it thrilled me. It's not that I don't enjoy the act of tying someone up or putting on the wrist restraints, most of the time, because I do. It's just that to have someone do it more quickly, without even being asked, with his own equipment was really cool. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that "fully equipped" subs are nice.

I think you're correct about your theory of control when it comes to things like the car. Or it could be that he's just more comfortable in his car for whatever reason. Just like I'm more comfortable using my flogger, since it's mine and I know how it handles. I'm always up for trying new things and I'd hope he is as well. Maybe just handing over your toys when you arrive at his house for any period of time where play might occur would give him the choice to use whatever he wants without having to disrupt the flow of things to ask you to get them out.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/1/2007 6:33:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: MaryT

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I would not want someone else's toys used on me, yeck.
I've always felt that the bottom/sub/slave should be the one in possession of the implements. Not all of them can be sanitized. And the thought of having a toy inserted that had been elsewhere, is cootie-like.

Yep, downright risky even ...

Thanks for your thoughts.

I feel like using the same toys on more than one person is sort of getting a bad rap here. If I relied on even 1/10th of the people I've played with to own anything of their own, I would probably still be looking for my first victim at the moment. I have accumulated quite a collection for myself and see nothing wrong with using things on a variety of people as long as you take care of the toys correctly. For details on cleaning methods, etc., we should start another thread, but I will just say that a) if you use a condom on a toy every time and then wash the toy after removing the condom, you will likely have no problems - and b) if you use only non-porous materials like metal, glass, and silicon insertables, they can be boiled and bleached and thus returned to their "good as new" state of cleanliness. I know the idea of sharing insertible toys is icky to some people but that's based more on a mental block than any real danger as long as you stick to the condom and nonporous rules.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/2/2007 10:07:27 AM

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I prefer my own toys mostly for insertables but a new paddle is always nice!

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/2/2007 1:41:37 PM

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We're fluid bonded and any toys we have are only used on me. I also don't feel comfortable with toys that have been used on other people. This is both an emotional and a hygeine thing.

Want to use a special leather flogger on me? Can you promise that you didn't accidentally get any blood on it? Didn't hit a small scab on her that broke open and only left one drop? Are you autoclaving these things? No? Well that's my answer also.

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RE: Whose Toys? - 2/2/2007 2:32:01 PM

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Dear MaryT, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I make note that this post is not addressing incert toys, such as dildos, sounds, etc.

As to other equipment/gear/toys/tools; I believe people are most comfortable with the tools/gear they pick themselves. In addition, the Dominant knows how each tool behaves, as well as the weakness and its strength.

I do appreciate those submissives/slaves who carry their own gear/equipment/tools/toys. They have their own comfort by the application of them and its 'dedicated.' This has been a practice to which started when AIDS and other diseases cropped up; where body fluid was suspect. But, I also understand the need and such by slaves and or submissives to have their dedicated toy bag. However, it needs to be said, that not all Dominants possess the skills and or techniques to automaticly use another's tools automaticly. I feel it wise to permit that Dominant to get 'familiar' with the tools that are foreign to them--as to find that tool's 'voice' per se. And, I will hope that Dominants keep their toys apart. Cross-contamination is a risk.

As for my own personal collection; If I use one toy out of 22, I clean all 22. It saves me from remembering and gives a chance to clean my equipment, check for flaws or damage from the last scene, repack in a neat manner, taking inventory and ready for an impromptu use at any time.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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