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With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for questions... - 2/1/2007 10:46:55 AM   
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trusted?I think most of them are corrupt not good people,as the majority of politicians are only out to make money in anyway they can.And in my opinion hardly any of them can be trusted,but what do you think please?
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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 11:04:26 AM   
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I think all those that complain about Bush should look at the despotic pathalogical liar we have here and count their blessings

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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 11:54:49 AM   
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trusted?I think most of them are corrupt not good people,as the majority of politicians are only out to make money in anyway they can.And in my opinion hardly any of them can be trusted,but what do you think please?


They can be trusted to do exactly what they arrest you for doing!!!

Poppies are growing better than ever in afgahnastan now that we bombed them with the intent of shutting it all down.   Of course the CIA doesnt kow anything about that now do they?  cough choke!


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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 12:04:31 PM   
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I think he is being question for cash for honours not cash for questions which is worse because the people paying the cash would end up in Parliament's upper chamber. Talk about a banana republic, banana republics are less corrupt.  I still can't understand why anyone voted for Blair in the first place, it was quite obvious from the start he was selling snake oil. For someone who has been a peacenik throughout his career he has more than made up for it now he's in power. If ever there was a man who would do anything to get power it is him. The only thing worse than Tony Blair are all those meally mouth 'yes men' that are sat behind him that keep him in power. Let's not forget 'Blair's babes' where the only talent you needed to be selected for a winnable seat was to be able to talk through your pussy. Never before have so many women been in one room and had so little talent, all to make Blair look nice and liberal. Blair? I've crapped better.

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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 12:17:52 PM   
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Meat, it is a pleasure to find a topic we agree on :)

whiter than white
education, education, education
tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime
health system to be proud of

I feel sick now, but I dare not go to hospital.

Sat here actually trying to find one single policy of his that is as initially promised, and failing. He has made one smart move, handing over interest control to the bank, and that was not becuase it was a fiscally intelligent move, but so that he had someone else to blame should rates rise.

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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 1:02:34 PM   
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He has made one smart move, handing over interest control to the bank, and that was not becuase it was a fiscally intelligent move, but so that he had someone else to blame should rates rise.


yeh giving the "banks" cantrol is always smart polic!  Oh wait: KNOW YOUR MASTERS

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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 1:28:56 PM   
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Sure if you are a politician its a vary smart move. Interest rates go down, its because you let experts handle the money, a smart move. Interest rates go up, not your fault its all the banks fault. Win-win situation for the politicals.

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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 1:50:20 PM   
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Sure if you are a politician its a vary smart move. Interest rates go down, its because you let experts handle the money, a smart move. Interest rates go up, not your fault its all the banks fault. Win-win situation for the politicals.


my point of course is lose lose for us and others like us, well unless you are part of the illuminati gang


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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 2:25:53 PM   
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I cant see any particular reason to blame Blair for anything that is unique to him.

The whole political system in the UK is so corrupt and has been for at least 30/40 years...whats new.
Actually corrupt is the wrong word...the correct expression is indifferent to the wishes of the majority.

If you keep telling people that they live in a democracy but act in a way that shows that this is untrue then eventually even the most mentally supine Brit will see the contradiction.

I predict progressive withdrawal from the system ie fewer and fewer voting and then the rise of a hardline Right Wing political party.


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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 2:48:52 PM   
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Well to put it in perspective, that champion of the people Ken Livingstone (holds back vomit) once wrote a book with an interesting title........


If voting changed anything they would ban it

Oh the irony!

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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 2:52:23 PM   
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If voting changed anything they would ban it

Oh the irony!


As Tony Benn pointed out. All major reforms have been won through extra-parliamentary action and Parliament has only rubber stamped them once the reforms have been claimed by the people. So so true.

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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 7:15:43 PM   
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Politicians are amazing. Over in humor is a post azbout stupid govt officials, I mean senators, congressmen, their aides. One thought they could take a train to Hawaii. Another thought they didn't need a visa to go to China because "last time they took american express".

You hand people 400 page bills they have to vote on, and they think they can take a train to Hawaii. Is this person qualified to make important decisions that affect everyone ? They have handlers and advisors and speechwriters. They also have a clamp on their balls due to party affiliation.

I have found religious people to be among the least intelligent of those I know in real life. I hung up on my boss four times as he was trying to convince me that Bush was carrying out the will of God. All of his information came from the media or the pulpit. I think the guy would've had a heart attack if I gave him an AFP.

Logically, We The People are not getting the representation We need. We may speak at the polls, but our vocabulary is severely limited. Why is this ? Well there are two reasons. Well maybe three once I get started.

1. Most voters do not have alternate and/or foreign news sources.

2. These political parties pick the candidates for us.

3. The political party bosses are in cahootz with big business as well as the media.

The proof is in commonly known facts, if the general public could think it out. These three points are pretty much undisputable.

As for #1, why didn't the media cover the bombing of Al Jazeera or the use of depleted uranium weapons ?

As for #2, OK we have primaries, but who is it who decides which potential candidate get money ? Political parties are not government entities. They are private. Figure out what their motives might be.

As for #3, being in cahootz with the media, the party bosses have a very effective weapon against those politician who do not follow the rules (their rules) and all of them have skeletons in the closet. Why don't we hear about the trails of dead bodies, illicit affairs and corruption they have inflicted on previous supposed constituents, BEFORE the election.

I have read that in some places in the world, if voter turnout was as low as it is in the US, they would not consider the election valid. Bush said "I do not testify, I'll sit down with them...". That means he believes that We do not deserve answers.

I sure hope the denocrats don't run Hillary in 08. The election might get cancelled because absolutely nobody voted. All the Women I know would never vote for her.

Y'know she opened her mouth on all kinds of shit, but when her Husband was caught cheating on her she was strangely silent. While I disagree with her main platform and ideas, especially on universal health care, that is not the main thing. I think we should've seen an actual Presidential divorce while in office.

What this says is that she really doesn't have family values, or is whacked out in the mind.

Now you may point out to me that this is an alternative lifestyle group, but I retort here and now that a marriage is a promise, an oath. Women, would YOU put up with your Husband getting blow jobs at work ?

If Hillary would've responded that they had an agreement because she refused to give head, something like that, I could understand. I could respect that. Universal health care ? I'll just cheat on taxes. Thing is, I don't like the Mommy policies of the liberals nor the autoritarian policies of the so called conservatives. Neither rone of them even comes close to representing me or American values.

So how does Blair get in, same way Bush does, money and powerful friends.

What do we do now ?

T

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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 8:19:42 PM   
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1. Most voters do not have alternate and/or foreign news sources.

2. These political parties pick the candidates for us.

3. The political party bosses are in cahootz with big business as well as the media.

T


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right on target

i learn more about this country listening to sw radio than i will ever and i mean ever learn from our media!  unfortunately i cannot post those reports as links here


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RE: With Tony Blair beinq questioned for cash for quest... - 2/1/2007 9:21:55 PM   
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Real;

Why not ? Plug the headphone jack into the line in on the PC and make a WAV file. Get some webspace (actually I might let you use a little bit of mine) and post the link.

One of the last notable things I heard on SW was by Dr William Pierce. He bought up a very valid point, but when he brought race into it it became taboo. Farm girls lured to the city to become prostitutes. There are two problems with Pierce, but now is not the time.

Perhaps we should collaberate on bringing some things in here. No Pierce, he was too focused on the White race, and didn't really see that since we live on the same planet, his utopia was just not going to happen. I mean alot of other things.

For one, I have scans of certified copies of the IRS's incorporation in Deleware. I have databases full of the UCC, Trading with the Enemy act (with the revision). Things like that.

I have scalding information about the drug industry, which has bought the colleges and is turning MDs into drug pushers. I mean we are talking free golf clubs here.

I have the UN charter somewhere, and the protocals.

Now you just can't post the protocols, nobody will read it through, but I have. Just take the words Jew and goyim out of it and substitute 'elite' and 'proletarian'. That would be enough. Actually after part one, those two words are used very little.

I thought Revelations was astounding in it's foresight, but the protocols takes the cake.

"Have we not taught them to not look beyond the surface ?".

Just what do you see around you ?

Real, you may be one who wants to read this. It is a hard read and makes the Bible look like a third grade primer. It is obviously a translation.

They say it is a forgery, but is it is a forgery, what is it a forgery of ?

I understand there is a new version, but it has not surfaced as of yet. Want the old one at least  ? CMail me. I won't bring it in here, at least not in it's entirety. It's still avaible online I think too. But it still applies, people will not read the whole thing. Even my Father who has read the Bible from cover to cover refuses to read the whole thing.

It really is too much for most.

T

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